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Old 07-29-2015, 08:45 AM   #21
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'I believe this photo captures who we are in South Carolina': Black cop photographed helping white man in swastika shirt at KKK demonstration hopes his actions help others 'overcome hatred'

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Florida Sheriff's Deputies Pull Man From Ledge...

EMILY MILLER ON JUL 29, 2015
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As a man rocked back and forth on the edge of a concrete ledge above Interstate 95, his legs dangling above traffic, two Broward Sheriff's Office deputies swooped in and pulled him to safety.

The two-minute rescue began at 11:20 p.m. Monday along the Andrews Avenue bridge over I-95. Sgt. Bryan Nord, 40, and Deputy Jonathan Vazquez, 33, worked together to save the man, who had been unresponsive and slowly inched his way closer to the edge of the small ledge as the deputies neared.

"Right when we got there, we thought he was going to jump," Nord said. "He was sitting on the edge with his legs hanging over the side. He looked at me a couple of times. He just had a blank stare."

Nord called for deputies to close the southbound lanes of I-95 in case the man decided to jump. Then he tried to talk the man off of the ledge.

"Whenever he would look away from me, I would take a few steps closer, and when he would look at me, I would stop walking," Nord said.

The man began rocking back and forth while watching the traffic as if he was trying to time when to jump, Nord said.

"We could tell he wasn't playing," Vazquez said. "It really, really appeared that he had made up his mind."

Nord signaled to Vazquez that it was time to intervene and the two quickly pulled the man backward onto the sidewalk.

"It felt like he was kind of relieved that he didn't have to make the decision himself," Nord said of the man. "Finally he said, 'I just don't want to live anymore.'"

The man told Nord and Vazquez that he had been released from a Palm Beach hospital earlier that day after undergoing a medical health evaluation. He said he took a bus to the nearby Tri-Rail station, then walked to the bridge.

Nord said the man, who had been carrying medication, said he recently lost his job and his insurance and was an alcoholic. He also said he would try to kill himself again and was transported to Imperial Point Hospital for medical health evaluation.

"You take this job to help people," Nord said. "Sometimes you forget how good it feels."

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DA: Troopers' Use of Force 'Legally Permissible'

PUBLIC OPINION, CHAMBERSBURG, PA. ON JUL 24, 2015


CHAMBERSBURG, Pa. -- Two Pennsylvania State Police troopers acted within the law when they discharged their firearms, resulting in the shooting of a Chambersburg man during an incident on July 17 in Letterkenny Township, Franklin County District Attorney Matthew Fogal said in a news release issued Thursday evening.

The troopers, whom authorities have not identified, exchanged gunfire with Larry Woodal Jr., Chambersburg, upon responding at about 8:21 p.m. to a complaint of shots fired in the vicinity of Woodal's home in the Letterkenny Park mobile home court on an unnamed street just off Rocky Springs Road.

One round fired by Woodal struck one of the troopers in the right leg, prompting return fire from police. According to the criminal complaint filed with Magisterial District Judge Kelly Rock, Woodal was struck in an undisclosed area of the body by a least one round as he retreated inside his residence and continued to fire at police.

Woodal was charged with attempted homicide of a law enforcement officer, among other crimes. An investigation was also opened against the troopers involved in the gunfire exchange.

"I have reviewed that investigation, and have determined that not only was the use of force legally permissible in defense of themselves, but also that the troopers acted bravely and with tactical proficiency and discipline throughout the ordeal," Fogal said in the release. "Indeed, as a result of their heroic efforts and their training, none of the many bystanders at the scene was harmed and no casualties occurred."

Fogal added: "I would like to take this opportunity to inform the community that the actions of these troopers were utterly reasonable, appropriate and correct. Furthermore, I am not overstating the case by saying that these troopers risked their lives during this incident, and our citizenry has every reason to be proud of them.

In a note concluding the news release, Fogal said he reminds readers that while Woodal is accused of various offenses, he like all defendants is innocent until proven guilty.

Fogal also said that he will make no other statements regarding the case against Woodal, as ethics guidelines prohibit him from discussing facts pertaining to an open criminal investigation pending judicial proceedings.

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Cliffs: Officer Ray had just clocked out for lunch, heard the call and realized he was near, raced to the home where a <2 yr. old child was unresponsive after swallowing a coin, saved her life.
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Cameras Missed Slaying of Chicago Officer

STEVE SCHMADEKE ON JUL 30, 2015
SOURCE: CHICAGO TRIBUNE



A Chicago police computer expert could not explain Wednesday why police security cameras failed to capture the fatal 2010 shooting of an officer outside an Englewood police deployment center.

Attorneys for Bryant Brewer, who is on trial for the slaying of Officer Thor Soderberg, have emphasized the missing footage from two security cameras as they argue that Brewer acted in self-defense.

The defense is also expected to argue that Brewer was insane at the time. He mumbled to himself for the third straight day at trial.

Two cameras aimed at the parking lot adjoining the police facility captured Soderberg in a squad car, but both videos stopped before he stepped out of the squad car and only resume after the shooting.

Soderberg, 43, an 11-year veteran, was shot three times with his Glock 17 service weapon after a struggle with Brewer. He was found lying on his back between two marked squad cars, shot once in the back and twice in the head.

Prosecutors alleged Brewer was looking for a fight with a police officer and ended up "executing" Soderberg -- who had just ended his shift and was changing by his personal car for a volleyball game. Brewer then went on a rampage, shooting at five other police officers and a nearby handyman.

On the stand Wednesday, Officer Chris Paterno, called by the prosecution, seemed flustered when asked by Brewer's lawyer, William Wolf, to explain why the two police security cameras apparently failed to record the slaying. Superintendent Garry McCarthy arrived in the courtroom during the testimony.

Paterno said the security cameras only record to a computer server when they detect motion. He acknowledged that the cameras do not always work as intended and can fail to record even when movement occurs.

The officer testified some "skipping" is common in motion-detection video systems but that he had never in his 23-year career seen a glitch like the one in Brewer's case.

After not recording for 12 minutes, the camera turned on and then seemed to skip ahead again, even though it indicated only a second had passed.

"I have not seen this happen before," Paterno testified.

Paterno testified he and a city subcontractor spent hours the day of Soderberg's killing trying to find the missing footage. He said he believed the glitch may have been caused by a problem with the power supply to the camera.

"We were trying to figure out why the most important part (of the shooting) was not there," he said.

Paterno testified the original video feeds from the cameras were recorded over by the security system within about 48 hours and could not again be retrieved.

The bench trial before Judge Timothy Joyce is expected to end early next week.

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A Chicago police computer expert could not explain Wednesday why police security cameras failed to capture the fatal 2010 shooting of an officer outside an Englewood police deployment center.

Attorneys for Bryant Brewer, who is on trial for the slaying of Officer Thor Soderberg, have emphasized the missing footage from two security cameras as they argue that Brewer acted in self-defense.

The defense is also expected to argue that Brewer was insane at the time. He mumbled to himself for the third straight day at trial.

Two cameras aimed at the parking lot adjoining the police facility captured Soderberg in a squad car, but both videos stopped before he stepped out of the squad car and only resume after the shooting.

Soderberg, 43, an 11-year veteran, was shot three times with his Glock 17 service weapon after a struggle with Brewer. He was found lying on his back between two marked squad cars, shot once in the back and twice in the head.

Prosecutors alleged Brewer was looking for a fight with a police officer and ended up "executing" Soderberg -- who had just ended his shift and was changing by his personal car for a volleyball game. Brewer then went on a rampage, shooting at five other police officers and a nearby handyman.

On the stand Wednesday, Officer Chris Paterno, called by the prosecution, seemed flustered when asked by Brewer's lawyer, William Wolf, to explain why the two police security cameras apparently failed to record the slaying. Superintendent Garry McCarthy arrived in the courtroom during the testimony.

Paterno said the security cameras only record to a computer server when they detect motion. He acknowledged that the cameras do not always work as intended and can fail to record even when movement occurs.

The officer testified some "skipping" is common in motion-detection video systems but that he had never in his 23-year career seen a glitch like the one in Brewer's case.

After not recording for 12 minutes, the camera turned on and then seemed to skip ahead again, even though it indicated only a second had passed.

"I have not seen this happen before," Paterno testified.

Paterno testified he and a city subcontractor spent hours the day of Soderberg's killing trying to find the missing footage. He said he believed the glitch may have been caused by a problem with the power supply to the camera.

"We were trying to figure out why the most important part (of the shooting) was not there," he said.

Paterno testified the original video feeds from the cameras were recorded over by the security system within about 48 hours and could not again be retrieved.

The bench trial before Judge Timothy Joyce is expected to end early next week.

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what exactly does this tragedy have to do with good conduct of police officers?
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Judge Tosses Two Charges Against Marshal

JAVIER PANZAR ON JUL 30, 2015
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A federal judge on Wednesday tossed out two charges against an off-duty deputy U.S. marshal accused of killing a man during a confrontation in a Fairfax-area alley.

In his ruling, U.S. District Judge Philip S. Gutierrez faulted federal prosecutors for not providing enough evidence to convict Matthew Itkowitz of depriving a man's civil rights "under color of law" when he allegedly killed 26-year-old Ryan Gonzalez.

Itkowitz still has two obstruction of justice counts filed against him in connection with misleading statements he allegedly provided to Los Angeles police investigators about what happened during the March 5, 2008, shooting. Each count carries a maximum 20-year federal prison sentence.

The partial acquittal of Itkowitz was a significant setback for federal prosecutors and dealt a blow to Gonzalez's family.

"What is going on in our justice system?" said Gonzalez's stepfather, Ray Smithen, outside the courtroom. "He killed my son in cold blood."

After the judge's ruling, Assistant U.S. Atty. Lawrence Middleton told jurors during closing arguments that Itkowitz lied about the incident, telling his supervisor that two Latino men had tried to rob him in the alley. To homicide detectives, Itkowitz recounted that he fired while being attacked, Middleton said.

Surveillance video of the incident revealed Itkowitz's account to be untrue, Middleton argued. Video of the shooting -- played repeatedly during the trial -- initially shows Itkowitz and Gonzalez fighting. The confrontation was sparked by Itkowitz striking his wife outside the tattoo parlor where Gonzalez worked, prosecutors said.

After the men exchanged blows, they walked away from each other. About a minute elapsed before the shooting occurred, according to the video. Itkowitz can be seen shooting Gonzalez with a Glock .40-caliber pistol. Gonzalez was shot five times, including twice in his back as he was chased by Itkowitz, prosecutors said

"After he shot Ryan Gonzalez, the defendant tried to cover up what he had done," Middleton told jurors in the downtown Los Angeles courtroom. "He described a shooting that looked nothing like what you saw."

Defense attorneys countered that Itkowitz wasn't trying to mislead police officers but had been under a significant amount of stress. Before his interview with investigators, the off-duty deputy had been awake for 30 hours and had received an injection of morphine at a hospital for injuries received in the fight, federal public defender Christopher Dybwad said.

"Sometimes people just get it wrong," Dybwad said. "Isn't it possible he got his memory wrong?"

The Los Angeles County district attorney's office had earlier declined to file charges against the deputy marshal, saying it had insufficient evidence despite concluding that the security video was "patently inconsistent" with Itkowitz's account of the shooting.

After closing arguments concluded, the jury began about half a day of deliberations without reaching a verdict. Jurors are expected to return Thursday to continue weighing the charges.

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what exactly does this tragedy have to do with good conduct of police officers?
I mentioned adding stories of officer's losing their lives (..albeit in a quip) in my initial post, but you obviously overlooked that.

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I mentioned adding stories of officer's losing their lives (..albeit in a quip) in my initial post, but you obviously overlooked that.
my mistake. this site says 68 this year

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my mistake. this site says 68 this year

https://www.odmp.org/search/year

It's not up to date (..close though). There are over 70.

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This is pure stupidity on the officer's part. They gave up control and let this man get between them and create a crossfire situation- even though they should have dumped him when he began his advance with the knife.
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This is pure stupidity on the officer's part. They gave up control and let this man get between them and create a crossfire situation- even though they should have dumped him when he began his advance with the knife.
That guy is extremely lucky.

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This is pure stupidity on the officer's part. They gave up control and let this man get between them and create a crossfire situation- even though they should have dumped him when he began his advance with the knife.
WTF are you talking about, the British police don't even have guns. They handled the situation like a good cop should.
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This is pure stupidity on the officer's part. They gave up control and let this man get between them and create a crossfire situation- even though they should have dumped him when he began his advance with the knife.
They don't have guns, they're UK cops.
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I heard they started carrying a few years back. Didn't know each day was a suicide mission for them.
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I heard they started carrying a few years back. Didn't know each day was a suicide mission for them.
You must be one of those guys that doesn't leave his bedroom without a glock.
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You must be one of those guys that has never had to fight for his life.
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