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Old 10-27-2016, 09:13 AM   #21
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Old 10-27-2016, 09:18 AM   #22
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I decided to make a thread since a few of have Wranglers, Cherokees, etc. Figured it'd be good to post pics, questions, and whatnot.

Anyways, I have a alignment question. I put a Aev 2.5" lift with geometry correction brackets on and NTB says they can't align it without adjustable ball joints to correct the camber. They said if they adjusted anything that my car would pull hard to the right.

I called Aev and they said to try another shop or have them set the correct toe and not to worry about the camber if it's not bad.

So my question is if I had to do adjustable ball joints, would I need adjustable upper and lowers or just one of them? I already ordered these, but not sure if it'll be enough or I have to order the adjustable uppers as well.

http://www.moog-suspension-parts.com/moog-k7403


Here's my print out of the alignment.



Note- 2008 JK 2 door. New lift, endlinks, tie bar, and drag bar.
I've never heard of anyone needing adjustable ball joints after a lift in a JK. The image of the alignment doesn't show up on my screen, how out of spec is it?

Also, I would look into coating your undercarriage with Fluid Film. Did you use anti-seize on the bolts when you were installing the lift?
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Old 10-27-2016, 10:39 AM   #23
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Also, if I never had it aligned before the lift, would the tires be causing the camber issue from wear? I did notice uneven wear on the front driver side when I pulled it off.
No, if the lift was a body lift then the alignment should be unchanged.
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Serbonze on your Wrangler. I love how that looks.
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Old 10-27-2016, 12:14 PM   #25
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Serbonze on your Wrangler. I love how that looks.
Thanks! I just realized that's actually an old picture. This is what it looks like now with the slyders installed. And I just replaced the original silver logos and Sahara sticker with a matte black distressed font with my own logo.
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Probably going to need new front rotors soon....best place to buy them online? The Mopar site, by the way, is epically awful.

I may just go buy the Duralast Gold's at my local Autozone.

Edit: Rock Auto has a good deal on OE stuff, as well, it seems.
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Probably going to need new front rotors soon....best place to buy them online? The Mopar site, by the way, is epically awful.

I may just go buy the Duralast Gold's at my local Autozone.

Edit: Rock Auto has a good deal on OE stuff, as well, it seems.
I've had great luck with Centric Rotors, purchased from Amazon.
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Same lift, never had any issues.
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Here is mine..

Same lift, never had any issues.

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I decided to make a thread since a few of have Wranglers, Cherokees, etc. Figured it'd be good to post pics, questions, and whatnot.

Anyways, I have a alignment question. I put a Aev 2.5" lift with geometry correction brackets on and NTB says they can't align it without adjustable ball joints to correct the camber. They said if they adjusted anything that my car would pull hard to the right.

I called Aev and they said to try another shop or have them set the correct toe and not to worry about the camber if it's not bad.

So my question is if I had to do adjustable ball joints, would I need adjustable upper and lowers or just one of them? I already ordered these, but not sure if it'll be enough or I have to order the adjustable uppers as well.

http://www.moog-suspension-parts.com/moog-k7403


Here's my print out of the alignment.



Note- 2008 JK 2 door. New lift, endlinks, tie bar, and drag bar.
Here's the reality, there is nothing to align on a solid axle. There is no "alignment". All they can set is the toe, which you can do yourself.

http://wayalife.com/showthread.php?3...-End-Alignment

To have correct alignment, you must have correct geometry, and to have correct geometry, you need to have the correct parts. So, if you have the brackets already, I'd get an ajustable track bar OR a trackbar bracket (I recommend the latter) so that your axle is back to center and that's it. Nothing else would have changed.

This is all you need, don't pay for an alignment, do it yourself next time.
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Old 11-06-2016, 11:01 AM   #31
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Here's a few shots right after I got the lift on.

So far I've done 2.5" lift, geo brackets, front bumper, exhaust, steering stabilizer, toe bar, drag bar, and fender flares. Tires and winch coming soon. I can't off road it till early next year anyways.

Edit- That lift was one of the biggest pain in the ass projects I've ever done on a car. All my endlinks were seized on, as well as my rear lower shock mounts. I had to cut them all off and order new stuff (wish I would of researched guys using rear endlinks up front...). The front upper shock bolts also got the axe. All of my shocks were toast and I could collapse them between my hands and watch them take a min to expand.

I swear every bolt on this thing was made to never get removed. When I did my trans filter a snapped one of the frame mount skid plate bolts.

That's why I'm dreading having to do ball joints. I just don't want to deal with and all the shops I've called want $400 ish.
Balljoints don't do anything for alignment. You only need to do them if your balljoints are going, or you're planning on running larger tires. Factory joints use plastic caps, which wear out. If you are going to replace them, just get Crown HD or AlloyUSA from amazon.
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Old 11-06-2016, 11:02 AM   #32
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Probably going to need new front rotors soon....best place to buy them online? The Mopar site, by the way, is epically awful.

I may just go buy the Duralast Gold's at my local Autozone.

Edit: Rock Auto has a good deal on OE stuff, as well, it seems.
The mopar site is as useful as Clinton's email server. It's horrible, but it seems like it's the same ancient system used by parts departments at dealerships lol.
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Old 11-06-2016, 01:49 PM   #33
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Oh, and the obligatory Jeep pic....

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Replaced with the bigger and badder.....which will be replaced next summer

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My world is somewhat upside-down right now. I just learned that Jeep produced 2wd JKs for a period of time. Crazy.
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Yes, and only sold them in certain markets.....Florida had a lot of them, production stopped quickly. The only Wranglers that have pretty sh!tty resale values. Luckily, you can use that info to your advantage, pick up a clean JK for cheaps, and get a nice Dynatrac axle for the front, a rubi transfercase, and a quality shaft for under 10k, and have a stronger 4WD JK than factory.
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Yeah I would imagine if you planned to build it out right then buying one of those on the cheap wouldn't be a bad option.
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Update since I haven't posted in this thread for awhile. Took it to get aligned at a reputable indy shop two weeks ago, but they said they only had time to inspect it, not the actual alignment. There was a Firestone down the street so I took it there. All aligned and no issues. Just that my local NTB is mentally retarded.

I do have a question on the front brake line routing. According to AEV and a few Jeep forums, this is the right way (pic below). I was curious today and contacted Rubicon Express to see what they say. The rep told "I would definitely run that behind that shock, you're losing some of the length with it set up that way. IT looks like that could get a little tight in certain scenarios. "

Any thoughts on routing or if I'll have any issues like this?


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What is the bigger and badder next year? They finally gonna do a diesel?
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Read my post above. Stop looking for alignment shops, there is nothing to align. You're wasting your time and money. It's a solid axle vehicle.

As for brake lines, that's fine. Mine are routed on the outside but guided with an industrial ziptie do they don't end up where they are not supposed to. I highly recommend you get proper sized endlinks instead of the sh!tty AEV brackets, and if you plan on offroading, replace the sh!tty AEV drop brackets with Rancho units. A front trackbar will also help you correct the geometry up front.
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