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Old 11-10-2016, 06:15 PM   #61
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It is more for aesthetic's but I need something that will hold up to weather. Puerto Rico has daily rain storms.
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Old 11-10-2016, 07:36 PM   #62
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Ah, in that case get anything with CREE or Osram chips 5W or 10W depending on how much power you need, with an IP68 rating, and lexan polycarbonate, NOT glass.
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Old 11-10-2016, 11:54 PM   #63
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Are there any other "need to have" mods that you would recommend. I cant change my suspension because it wont fit into parking garages but I am open to other ideas.
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Why is it impossible to find a Hydro Blue Peral 2015 JK Rubicon?!?!!
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Old 11-11-2016, 09:19 AM   #65
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Are there any other "need to have" mods that you would recommend. I cant change my suspension because it wont fit into parking garages but I am open to other ideas.
"Need to have" mods based on wheeling or "I think this looks cool"? I ask because of your previous post and the snorkel that is altar on there.
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An LED upgrade to your headlights will make a world of difference.
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Old 11-11-2016, 09:24 AM   #67
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If you want a Wrangler a certain way, 99 times out of 100 you have to factory order it. I factory ordered mine. If you're not in a rush, just do it. Bonus of having a custom window sticker with your name on it.
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Old 11-11-2016, 09:25 AM   #68
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Are there any other "need to have" mods that you would recommend. I cant change my suspension because it wont fit into parking garages but I am open to other ideas.
If you have stock suspension, no, it's excellent suspension. I would do the bolt upgrade kit for piece of mind. Maybe a leveling kit to get rid of the raked look.
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Old 11-11-2016, 09:27 AM   #69
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An LED upgrade to your headlights will make a world of difference.
The new ones come with factory LED headlights, but I agree, the stock wrangler headlights are probably some of the worst in the industry, so upgrading them is one of the must do mods IMHO.
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Old 11-11-2016, 11:33 AM   #70
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To make a long story short, the holes on the Jeep are all 9/16th, but to save money, Chrysler is using 14mm bolts, which are ALMOST as big, but, they are a bit smaller than the holes, and are threaded all the way...so, you get two problems,

One, when they get loose, the part comes loose, and you have lots of problems, the worst being death wobble.

Two, they get loose and rasp at the hole, ovaling it out, making problems worse.

The shouldered bolts are not only tighter, but don't rasp, and even if the nut backed out, they are still tight enough to not cause catastrophic problems like death wobble. I'd had both my jeeps modded with shouldered bolts, and I've never had an issue, nor have I ever had to retorque any bolts.
What would you recommend for the bolt kit? I found these two with two very different prices.

http://www.synergymfg.com/Synergy-Su...t-p-30501.html

https://www.northridge4x4.com/part/h...8-hardware-kit

I also upgraded my tie and drag bars. The kit came with a double sided bolt to replace my lower track bar and then attach the steering stabilizer to that. It also replaced the sleeve on my stabilizer mount. I'm guessing I wouldn't need to upgrade that bolt.



This is what I got.
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Old 11-11-2016, 11:40 AM   #71
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The north ridge kit is what you want. The other kit it a waste of of money. The teraflex stuff you got is basically a waste of money and subpar to the OEM stuff. Just telling you the truth. You don't need either of those things and will probably have worse performance with them.
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If you have stock suspension, no, it's excellent suspension. I would do the bolt upgrade kit for piece of mind. Maybe a leveling kit to get rid of the raked look.
I find that my shocks are complete garbage on the 75th AE. I never noticed an issue with my '14 Sahara, so maybe it's the extra weight of the steel bumpers front and rear?

Over large bumps, fully laden with passengers and cargo, something is hitting, and the shocks aren't controlling or damping any of the movement at all. Like the poster from PR, I can't change ride height, as it won't fit in my garage if I do, but I do want to get better shocks.

Are the factory Rubicon shocks any better, or should I just go with the Bilsteins?
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NFRs2000nyc Do you have any light bar/ cube led light recommendations. I have been poking around amazon and ebay for a solution.
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I find that my shocks are complete garbage on the 75th AE. I never noticed an issue with my '14 Sahara, so maybe it's the extra weight of the steel bumpers front and rear?



Over large bumps, fully laden with passengers and cargo, something is hitting, and the shocks aren't controlling or damping any of the movement at all. Like the poster from PR, I can't change ride height, as it won't fit in my garage if I do, but I do want to get better shocks.



Are the factory Rubicon shocks any better, or should I just go with the Bilsteins?

Factory rubicon shocks are monotube vs twintube. They are stiffer but are designed to deal better with heat (in the fluid.) they are also rated for more abuse. The ride in a wrangler is much more dependent on springs vs shocks. Bilsteins are exceptionally stiff, great for off-road but annoying for daily driving. I have a set of brand new bilsteins (came with my aev lift) that I never used and bought adjustable rancho 9000s during shocktober on Amazon. Nice and comfy and still good (not great) off-road.....but I spend most miles on the road so that's the compromise I made. Sahara springs are soft so if you load up the jeep with armor they will sag and collapse some of the coils, and when you hit bumps or whooptywhoops they will be too floaty and not feel controlled. My wrangler doesn't come close to fitting in my garage with my lift and tires, but such is life. It lives in the driveway.
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^^ so better off replacing the springs with a set off a Rubicon/Willys then? I see take-offs all the time - just wondering if it's worth it to go aftermarket, or whether the stock Rubicon 18/60 springs and shocks will make a significant enough difference.
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10A/Hardrock springs will give you slight assistance but they are not THAT much stiffer. You can get the teraflex leveling kit (springs) which are a good deal stiffer or you can get rock crawler or aev but those are meant for heavy rigs like mine, full steel all around, big tire in the back, winch in the front, etc.
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The north ridge kit is what you want. The other kit it a waste of of money. The teraflex stuff you got is basically a waste of money and subpar to the OEM stuff. Just telling you the truth. You don't need either of those things and will probably have worse performance with them.
Thanks. My oem tie and drag bars were toast anyway and I could hear them clunking.

Recommendations on new rear sway end links? I'm going to put the new oem's up front and ditch the aev brackets.


Also, my rear passenger end link doesn't go straight up and down like all the others. Could I flip it and bolt it in from the inside sway bar mount or vice versa? It doesn't line up correctly after the lift. All the other ones are fine.
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Thanks. My oem tie and drag bars were toast anyway and I could hear them clunking.

Recommendations on new rear sway end links? I'm going to put the new oem's up front and ditch the aev brackets.


Also, my rear passenger end link doesn't go straight up and down like all the others. Could I flip it and bolt it in from the inside sway bar mount or vice versa? It doesn't line up correctly after the lift. All the other ones are fine.

What do you mean rear endlinks, what's wrong with the ones you have now? If they are not going straight there might be other issues at hand.
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What do you mean rear endlinks, what's wrong with the ones you have now? If they are not going straight there might be other issues at hand.
I read that I could just put the rear ones in the front to remove the AEV brackets. All mine are new, but I want to ditch the brackets and get another set of rears. Something like quick discos or something.

Also, should I worry about getting shouldered bolts for the lower shock mounts? I though it was pretty dumb that Jeep didn't already do this.
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