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Old 03-18-2017, 09:29 PM   #1
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How screwed am i!??

So I brought my car in to the dealership yesterday, and I they checked my car for some little problem that it was having and when I went back to get it, they gave me this long ass list. Do I really have to spend 4k to get my car fixed? Is there some things that are an easy DIY? The amount is too much and I'd rather get a new car but I'm hella broke. What do u guys think?

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Old 03-18-2017, 09:30 PM   #2
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Old 03-18-2017, 09:50 PM   #3
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Welcome to dealership service prices.

You can do all of that yourself except for the alignment, depending on your level of technical expertise. What kinds of car repairs have you done before, if any?

An alternative would be to take your car to a local BMW specialist (not the dealer), give them that list, and have them quote you a price for the services.
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Old 03-18-2017, 10:03 PM   #4
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I have done simple DIY'S like changing the brakes, bumpers, headlight replacement, angel eyes, and sparkplugs. That's kind of it nothing too technical but if I had good video or instructions to show me step by step me and my buddies could get it done.

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Old 03-18-2017, 10:04 PM   #5
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Welcome to dealership service prices.

You can do all of that yourself except for the alignment, depending on your level of technical expertise. What kinds of car repairs have you done before, if any?

An alternative would be to take your car to a local BMW specialist (not the dealer), give them that list, and have them quote you a price for the services.
I have done simple DIY'S like changing the brakes, bumpers, headlight replacement, angel eyes, and sparkplugs. That's kind of it nothing too technical but if I had good video or instructions to show me step by step me and my buddies could get it done.

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Old 03-18-2017, 10:17 PM   #6
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The dealers service advisor will always try to rip you off. They have no soul and don't care if you don't have the money for these repairs. I have a friend who used to work at the dealer and go tired of replacing stuff that didn't need to be replaced, but, the service advisor talked the customer into it. He now owns his own shop. Find a local independent BMW only shop and have them inspect the car/list and give you an evaluation of what really needs to be done and what doesn't. Check the shops reviews on Yelp. Don't expect every review to be five star. There is always going to be some percentage of negative reviews.


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Old 03-18-2017, 10:21 PM   #7
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they even threw in a "Miscellaneous Charges of $50"

Just for being a good customer!
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Old 03-18-2017, 10:25 PM   #8
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$726 to replace the $5 OFHG. Wow.
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Old 03-18-2017, 10:33 PM   #9
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The dealers service advisor will always try to rip you off. They have no soul and don't care if you don't have the money for these repairs. I have a friend who used to work at the dealer and go tired of replacing stuff that didn't need to be replaced, but, the service advisor talked the customer into it. He now owns his own shop. Find a local independent BMW only shop and have them inspect the car/list and give you an evaluation of what really needs to be done and what doesn't. Check the shops reviews on Yelp. Don't expect every review to be five star. There is always going to be some percentage of negative reviews.


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I live in ND we don't even have a dealership. I had to drive 200 miles to Minneapolis yesterday because there was a recall. Most indipendent shops around here fix Auidi's and Mercedes. Most of them are scared to touch BMW'S for some reason. I might just have to find someone in another city that can do it for a way cheaper price. I was thinking about buying the parts myself by finding cheap ones online then I'd have to pay for the labor.

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Old 03-18-2017, 10:34 PM   #10
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they even threw in a "Miscellaneous Charges of $50"

Just for being a good customer!
SMH. It's sad man

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Old 03-18-2017, 10:37 PM   #11
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If you have changed brakes, plugs, etc., you can do these items (except for alignment as stated above). If you have the time, a place to do the work and some basic tools like jacks, jack stands and hand tools, it could save you thousands.

There are so many good DIY videos available on this site and on youtube that can guide you through the process. Be sure to get OE or OEM parts!
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Jesus, what's the labor rate? 200/hr?


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Old 03-18-2017, 10:59 PM   #13
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This is all very doable with a good set of tools. It's worth the investment and will pay for itself with the first job.

On the quote they recommend CV boots. I have found in my experience that if the boots are torn then there will be dirt, water, and debris in the grease around the bearings. It is better to replace the entire axel than rebuild them.

Control arms and bushings can be purchased OEM in a kit for under $500.

You will need an alignment after the control arms and axels. Do the two projects at the same time. A local tire shop will do alignments for around $100 if you want to save a little more money compared to $170 quoted.

Oil filter housing gasket is a common failure on every E46. There are great DIY videos on how to replace this. Like said about the gasket itself is $5. I recommend replacing the VANOS oil line at the same time and an oil change if you are due.

I'm amazed by how much the dealer charges. Almost $5k quoted is the value of most e46s on the road today. Good luck!
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This is all very doable with a good set of tools. It's worth the investment and will pay for itself with the first job.

On the quote they recommend CV boots. I have found in my experience that if the boots are torn then there will be dirt, water, and debris in the grease around the bearings. It is better to replace the entire axel than rebuild them.

Control arms and bushings can be purchased OEM in a kit for under $500.

You will need an alignment after the control arms and axels. Do the two projects at the same time. A local tire shop will do alignments for around $100 if you want to save a little more money compared to $170 quoted.

Oil filter housing gasket is a common failure on every E46. There are great DIY videos on how to replace this. Like said about the gasket itself is $5. I recommend replacing the VANOS oil line at the same time and an oil change if you are due.

I'm amazed by how much the dealer charges. Almost $5k quoted is the value of most e46s on the road today. Good luck!
My budget for fixing the whole car is about $1500. I have been on YouTube searching for Diy's all day. I will see what I think i can do and what I can't do. Then I'll go in and get a quote for what I can't do and what I can I'll just make it my summer project. Thank you for your insight

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As far as YouTube videos go there are some very good videos and not so great. Learn from what other people have done but think for yourself on how to actually do it.

I highly recommend 50sKid videos.


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Old 03-18-2017, 11:41 PM   #16
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Stop right there.....you're screwed!
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Old 03-18-2017, 11:45 PM   #17
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You can totally do everything. Young adult to young adult. I knew less than you when I dropped my subframe. If you are REALLY intimidated, leave the CV boots and PFHG to a shop. But there's no reason you can do everything else

The only "hard" thing about the OFHG is you have to remove the alternator, and of course the belts, but that's it. I think you could do that too. Best of luck . Get your hands dirty and learn some wrenching and get some mechanical experience! It's prideful


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Old 03-19-2017, 12:02 AM   #18
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You can totally do everything. Young adult to young adult. I knew less than you when I dropped my subframe. If you are REALLY intimidated, leave the CV boots and PFHG to a shop. But there's no reason you can do everything else

The only "hard" thing about the OFHG is you have to remove the alternator, and of course the belts, but that's it. I think you could do that too. Best of luck . Get your hands dirty and learn some wrenching and get some mechanical experience! It's prideful


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I'm planning on getting all my friends together and making a list of what we can do and can't. Thank you for the insights. I was super intimidated man the guy that gave the quote told me I need to get it fixed real quick so I got really scared. I'll take it one fix at a time parts aren't cheap either.

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Old 03-19-2017, 12:19 AM   #19
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Control arm refresh (click for links): $414
-Left: $180
-Right: $182
-Bushings: $52
OFHG: $2.49
-Gasket: $2.49
Engine Mounts: $103
-Left: $42
-Right: $61

Total: $520. Expensive? not really, especially compared to $4,800 which fixed 90% of your issues. I know nothing about the Xi, so the CV boots are out of my know how and for what parts to get. Surprised Xi CA's cost more than non-M. I did mine for $350.
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The OFHG is a good DIY to start with. Normal tools to get it done. Lots of instructions and videos available. Part is only about $5. Plan for 4-6 hrs if you have not done it before or have minimal E46 experience.
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