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Old 11-24-2013, 06:42 PM   #1
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Hi all -

My 330i is up on ramps right now as I'm replacing my steering coupler. The old one is out and the new one is partially on. HOWEVER... as I put it back on the rack side (the "toothed" side), I can only get it half way down and it stops. I can't go any further. The bolts are completely out.

Any tips on getting this thing back in? I can't get enough leverage to force it down. I've lubed it up and no luck.

If you have any suggestions, please let me know.

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Old 11-24-2013, 07:24 PM   #2
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Try opening it up with a screwdriver at the split
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Old 11-24-2013, 07:40 PM   #3
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Try opening it up with a screwdriver at the split
I tried that... I guess I can try to go a little more and see what happens. I wish I could get a little more leverage on it.
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Old 11-24-2013, 08:08 PM   #4
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Put the bolt in the opposite side (threaded side) and wedge something in for the bolt to push against.
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Old 11-24-2013, 08:16 PM   #5
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I found this: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=417082

This step stuck out to me:

14 - Rotate the knuckle 90 degrees so you can see the plastic tab - ensure that it is slotted correctly in the knuckle. Rotate back 90 degrees so you can see into the bolt-hole. Slide the knuckle down so that you can see the hole is aligned properly. I'm not sure why, but I was only able to push the knuckle back down onto the steering box shaft when the whole assembly was rotated back to it's original position. Go figure. Reinstall the bottom bolt - 22NM.
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Old 11-24-2013, 08:18 PM   #6
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I have been procrastinating on this job. Have a new one to go into my ride so good info here.
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Old 11-24-2013, 08:54 PM   #7
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Can't get new steering coupler (guibo) back on.

I almost tried installing mine with the car on the ground then at the last minute I decided to throw it on a lift. I'm so glad I did because you have to really get some good leverage on it to get it into place. Just keep trying OP and you will get it. Try some different positions until you can get a good hold on it.


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Old 11-25-2013, 08:30 AM   #8
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OMGosh! What a pain. I still don't have it in. I couldn't get the rack side in, so I took it off tried to spread the gap a bit more and still no go. So, I tried to start with the rack side first. I finally got the rack side in, and got the steering column side started, but now I can't get the column side in far enough to get to the groove where the bolt can pass through and thread on the other side.

It's always the jobs that seem the easiest that end up screwing you over. Any advice is appreciated.

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Old 11-25-2013, 08:38 AM   #9
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I had to turn my coupler by one spline when compared to the spline the original one was on. It ended up giving me a bad steering angle, but I fixed that with a toe alignment.
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Old 11-25-2013, 08:47 AM   #10
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The problem now is... If I give up, I can't really drive it to the shop. I'm to that point where I'm so pissed off that I'd gladly pay my mechanic to get it on... but I can just see me driving down the road when my steering column decides to free itself and my drive into a wall or something.
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Mine went on really easily. It was coming off that was the hard part. It should just very easily slide on after you clean up the splines.
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The problem now is... If I give up, I can't really drive it to the shop. I'm to that point where I'm so pissed off that I'd gladly pay my mechanic to get it on... but I can just see me driving down the road when my steering column decides to free itself and my drive into a wall or something.
Do not drive it to the shop. Unlock your steering column and do it that way. You'll just have to get a toe alignment. No big deal.
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Mine went on really easily. It was coming off that was the hard part. It should just very easily slide on after you clean up the splines.
Same, and it even was on a RHD. I don't know about the LHD version, but mine was impossible to install wrong, not even by a spline
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OP are you sure some splines aren't damaged? Inspect them really well. When you hammer out the guibo with a long screw driver I can see that being a possibility. Slim, but it's certainly possible.
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Same, and it even was on a RHD. I don't know about the LHD version, but mine was impossible to install wrong, not even by a spline
I think mine was installed one spline off at the factory. When I put it back on one spline over, it slid on easily. The little tab that it fits around was slightly warped, so I think that's what happened.
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OP are you sure some splines aren't damaged? Inspect them really well. When you hammer out the guibo with a long screw driver I can see that being a possibility. Slim, but it's certainly possible.
The splines are ok, because right now, I have it on the splines. I first tried it like everyone else does it. I.e. put the column side on first, then push the coupler up over the splines and down onto the rack. But, when I did that, I could never get it past the first set of splines. Almost... I could get the holes to line up about half way, but not all the way.

So, I tried putting the spline side on first. I got it on and bolted in. Now, the column side is in, but not all the way in, so I can't pass the bolt through. And there's nothing to grab the column with to pull it into the coupler.

So... I guess I'm going to try it the first way again and see if I can get it down. Unless I hear any other good suggestions.
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Are you even listening to what I'm saying? Unlock the column. Put the coupler on the column (no bolt), then put it on the rack.
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