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***BMW ECU programming solution*** OPEN DISCUSSION inside please

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#1 ·
Hi all,

I'm an experienced tuner (Mitsubishi, GM cars) and I want to have a open discussion with anybody that has information on tuning BMW's. OR any kind of information you want to share, or spare ecu you can donate "temporary"..

I found the hardware that is needed for READ/WRITE
"KWP2000+ Plus ECU Flasher"

example: On my 2003 330i my ECU is a Siemens MS43.

Since the ones that hold ALL the knowledge dont want to share the info I'm taking it on myself with the help of others (I hope) to find the info and in the hopes to finally provide a solution to ALL to tune our own cars and be able to create our own custom F/I kits...
 
#6 ·
Only a select few know how to tune the S54 ECU (Conforti, Nick G, Shadowman etc.) Those guys have developed a software SharkEdit to allow you to due a self tune or run maps that they provide. It was due to be released last year but Conforti heard that a group wanted to hack his work. From what I understand, Conforti is busy doing some encryption and has not set a date to release the Shark Edit.

Good luck with your quest.
 
#7 ·
What Jim should be doing is a setup just like "www.hptuners.com" he would make a fortune. For me its not about making money as I did that before when I was tuning supercharged GM's and Mitsu's...I dont have time for that anymore. I want to concentrate on my 330i and long term goal of becoming a specialist with BMW tuning and custom F/I.

I would so love to be able to adapt a EATON Blower M62 or M90 (cheap, low maintenance and awesome street torque where it counts the most for our daily drivers) to our 6 cylinders running at 7PSI and a nice water/meth setup if you would want to run more then 7PSI.

Similar to the very high quality ESS twinscrew kit :bow:


Few things I can bring to the BMW community:

1) Hopefullt A tuning solution for all of us on the very very cheap
2) My experience with Turbo's and the EATON blower
3) Experience tuning F/I cars and N/A cars

I believe in sharing and helping each other instead of keeping secrets for huge profits.... as we are all here for the same reasons (learning and helping each other) and not all of us have thousands and thousands of dollars burning holes in our pockets
 
#10 ·
I have an AEM on my mustang and I have to say, it has something like 467 different parameters that you can tune, it is one hell of a setup but you need to really know what you are doing with it...I wish I could work it without a tuner/expert , but it sure does fit the bill, if we had more info to work the stock computer, that would be great, I hope you find a whole mess of info for the community, appreciate the effort.
 
#11 ·
I worked with the Advanced Engine Management system a long time ago on my first car turbo honda 92 years a long time ago I was the first turbocharged Honda in Ontario, canada. The wiring to the stock harness is quite impressive and the price too :(...for me personaly I like leaving the stock wiring alone for reliability.

One thing I dont understand is why does it seem like BMW is the only make that doesnt already have a tuning solution available for everybody to use and share. Mitsubishi has DSMLINK, etc... honda has HONDATA, etc.. GM has HPTUNERS, ... Audi,subaru..etc..all have one and everybody helps out everybody in the forums...expect well here.

Once I receive the hardware/cables I will be looking for a spare BMW ECU for testing and retreiving the code on my laptop. I'm Going to study the code and do my homework and once I do find out all about them...the info will be shared with you all I am sure some people on here are just waiting for that to be able to build their own F/I.
 
#13 ·
i know that evosport has a ecu for the bmw models also M3 and others stand alone that is plug and play. and ask carmen (Wizeguy) i think the company that is doing his developed a plug ad play unit also i believe.
 
#18 ·
WinOLS DEMO
Downloads: 1857 | Views: 6355 | Rating:

Great editor for the chiptuning of cars with lots of useful features - Automatic map recognition - Text/2d/3d display and 3d-Preview - Checksum calculation by additional plugins - Version management and assistants for data transfer - Automatic processor detection - Import / export of several file formats - Damos/Asap2-Import by additional plugins - Integrierted eprom-software

VERY interesting:4ngie: thank you for sharing that.
 
#22 ·
I agree they should get paid for their work....but to make a fortune out of it is another thing....$350 for a shark injector is a bit overpriced i think....$250 would have been a bit better...and their price never goes down...why? because its the best?? no...because their isnt that much competition for them to even worry...
"They have no were else to go they WILL pay $350"
Get my point? So in a sense we are kind of force to pay a lot of money for these mods.
 
#24 ·
Just to chime in with some interesting facts about so called overpriced FI kits for the E46. Our TS kits had a break even point of about ~200 kits, before that the R&D and kit production was a loss. The margins are nowhere near what you guys seem to think as a lot of high end components and engineering goes into these kits. It would cost way more than current kits on the market to build a properly working one of.
 
#25 ·
if you guys think 350 is bad for shark,


the intrax module lets you bypass the 25 mph barrier where the x5 raises to a default set height with the air suspension after 25mph.

To defeat this and control the air suspension anytime and any speed

that little box is almost a thousand bux!!!!!!!!!!!(if anyone has a soultion half the price, pm me!)
 
#26 ·
You take your car to a BMW dealer, and they charge $100/hr to work on your car. That is a service.

You take your car to an experienced tuner, and they charge $X to work on your DME. That is a service.

Since the topic of this thread is "custom" tuning, I don't think the price of a Shark Injector is relevant.

I'm not against having a tuning tool for the DME that is affordable. It would however be nice to have our top level BMW tuners respected and valued for the services they provide because they DO provide good value.

FWIW, I've seen a DME editor in person. I own a KWP2000+. I own a working piggyback. I have access to stand alone ECUs. But still...here I am promoting the value of what a good tuner is worth. Kinda makes a person wonder if I'm onto something...
 
#27 · (Edited)
I have been tuning cars for over 10 years and I charged for my services like every other tuner out there. I NEVER said that a tuner should not make any money or is not valuable...what I am talking about is not having a solution that anybody can use to tune... is what is wrong.

It severly limits everybody from being able to build their own F/I kits. Instead you have no choice but to shell out 5+++ grand for a kit with a mystery canned tune.

This is the first forum where no custom tuning is being done by members...WHY?... because the secrets are hidden with only a selected few...which happen to be the company building F/I kits. Right now they could charge whatever the hell they want because they really honestly have the upper hand because they have the tunes.

In the other forums; tuners help tuners....tuners help members learn the in's and out's.... some members become good tuners!! everybody helps each other and everybody benefits.

Hell, in my last forum we even had a section of location so people could look and get custom tuned.
http://cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=86603
 
#29 ·
It seems to me that everyone always tends to use the excuse that it is very difficult to tune the BMW ECU and that the time involved should be rewarded by being able to have proprietary tunes and forcing people to go to those companies to help pay back their R&D time. Although I don't entirely disagree with this, and I understand that R&D is expensive, I believe that is the major flaw with the BMW community vs other car communities/forums. The time and difficulty needed to tune the BMW ECU would greatly decrease as more information became available, plus it would invoke new ideas and creativity to the whole BMW community. People looking for FI mods, wouldnt be forced to look into packaged kits, or wouldnt be heckled for asking if they could make their own turbo kit for their car, while at the same time companies offering kits would still see large sales due to people wanting quality engineered kits with customer support. E46fanatics and other BMW forums should embrace the knowledge for a "free" tuning, similar to programs like OpenECU or ROMraider, although i understand the BMW's ECU is more complicated then Subrau's. Hopefully dennymedeiros project works and theres an abundant amount of information available, which all of us can use, not just tuners.
 
#34 ·
first time posting so please bare with a noob. Also please excuse my spelling i know it needs work.

I think this is great.
1) I love my car and love working on it. How could home mechanics not love the idea of tuning their own cars, getting the best performance possible out of their cars. Its been my experiene that every car is unique, every situation so custom tuning would be the ideal.
2) How about a day at the track were we could tune in our cars exactly for the temp of the day the elavation air density and all those other little quirks that take part of our cars performance.
3) This wouldn't be usefull just to FI either, everyone would benifit from a community wide effort. For example im droping a m54b30 engine into my 325i who has the correct tuning for my car? then what if i change the exhaust? what if i do cold air? everyones setup is a little different
4) YES there is a lot of R&D involved and YES time is money and the smarter you are the more your time is worth but lets not forget this would be a hobby and hobbies are not ment for profits they are ment to be bottomless pits of waisting Time and Money but you dont care because you love your hobby otherwise you should get a new one. but when a whole commuinty gets involved everyone shares in the R&D for a better final product.
 
#36 ·
becasue we're not 12, and understand that bmw dme compensates for the conditions and adapts up to 15% on earlier models and 7% or so on the new ones ..that out of the box it will perform under all conditions perfectly cause it was designed with that in mind as a performance passenger car by german engineers.

shark it for 7k rpm and 91 octane rating. Thats the only tuning id like to see avail to the general public that do not comprehend efficiency but think they can just raise parameters and get away with real horsepower by adding intake and exhaust and even using voltage regulators to minimized loss or some resistor on the maf.

when you drop in a 3.0 there is no tune involved just alignment of the new dme with your harnesses from a gt @ the dealers, you need parts.

i think most of you should just wait for the shark edit to save time and money and breath.

no one is going to open source such an expensive extensive work decrypting the bmw ecu.

and even if they did, it would require a dyno and something more then bunch of words in a paragraph mispelled like some 16 year old with dream and hope on tuning his own car @ the track for the ambient temperature of the asphalt and elavation %???^&?.
 
#37 ·
Well said.

I think that a lot of "tuners" coming from the import world are used to systems such as the emanage or s-afc, and believe that it'd be that simple to tune our ecu. I've played around with tunerpro with obd I maps, and just simply understanding which variables effect others is quite difficult. Making changes and understanding them is even harder.

If you want to tune your car for an F/I system and have little experience with the bmw dme, use a piggyback.
 
#38 ·
I think to say "that out of the box it will perform under all conditions perfectly cause it was designed with that in mind as a performance passenger car by german engineers." is exactly the misnomer that needs to be clarified. The BMW DME is a very good ECU, the adaptation it allows is amazing. However, it is a basic ECU just like every other ECU on every production car today, and that means 1 thing, the Air/Fuel ratio used in the programming of the ECU is tuned for the stoichiometric Air/Fuel ratio, which i believe is about 14.7. I mean obviously this varies but essentially the car has to make the Catalytic Converters happy to pass emissions, and Cats like a certain A/F ratio, a ratio which is not right for either maximum performance nor SFC, specific fuel consumption. So by that logic, your engine could make more power even if you don't want an FI kit a tune and intake/exhaust would show gains. And not everyone has the money to drop on Dinan, AA, or other chips, something an ECU re-flash would fix for fair cheap, especially if bolt on tunes were available on the forums.
 
#39 ·
The time and money you'd spend in software and hardware to even flash your ECU would result to multiple times the amount that you'd pay for an NA tune from any vendor. And I'll bet that you will not see any more HP from bolt on's than you would with a vendor flash.
 
#44 ·
you've already posted your intent and your background.


i was talking to the the other guy who quoted me.

i just asked you where you got your product since its an open discussion, and if anything said youd have easier time with your supercharger build if you wait or even contact jc for a release date before researching and tackling it alone.
 
#48 ·
I have been asking about shark edit for a while now and so has everybody since summer of last year. Nothing...not a word from Jim C.

I find it very discouraging that after all these years of OBDII and nothing is out there for everybody to be able to use. I did say USE ... once the software is build and the code understood it still takes experience and special skills to be a good tuner.

If I had access to Shark edit I would be tuning BMW's right now like its going out of style and I am not scared of using my car for tuning as I am fully comftable tuning.

So far after my research I have found this:

1) Hardware to READ/WRITE ONLY to the DME. Apparently there is more then one but this one seems to be the most common: KWP2000+ with flasher software (its a clone from the original tuning toolmade in italy for europeen cars) but seems to work really well from the people I haev talekd to.

So first step is to pull the original bin file from the DME.

2) Waiting for the hardware I located a Stock original Ms43 file from a 2002 330i.

3) To read the file you need a software translator like: Tunerpro (free)

4) create or locate a XDF file to find maps. So far I have found 2 maps created by the owner of tunerpro that can be used to tweak to show the maps needed with the MS43 DME.

here is a dump on a text file of the parameters.
****LONG*****

------------------------
TunerPro Bin Data Export
------------------------
Source File: 7509942 - 5wk90008 330i.bin
Source Definition: 413m50.xdf

------------------------------
Constants
------------------------------

Target Lambda 0.44
Injector Constant 0.16
Checksum 23662.00
Rev Limit 10200.00


------------------------------
Flags
------------------------------

O2 sensor / adaptation ON Set


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Tables
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RPM x CC, 6 x 7

RPM DKPOT,RPM
0 3.12 4.3 6.25 9.77 18.75 31.25
720 13.00 60.00 181.00 18.00 110.00 204.00 228.00
880 237.00 234.00 116.00 6.00 249.00 70.00 227.00
1200 233.00 115.00 93.00 203.00 200.00 227.00 104.00
1600 240.00 81.00 228.00 120.00 235.00 149.00 107.00
1800 52.00 223.00 139.00 209.00 165.00 136.00 84.00
4800 203.00 159.00 20.00 36.00 8.00 172.00 254.00


RPM x D6, 8 x 8 (2)


12 24 40 64 78 92 106 132
680 36.00 159.00 156.00 157.00 232.00 171.00 249.00 101.00
1000 82.00 126.00 98.00 69.00 12.00 99.00 90.00 86.00
1600 159.00 148.00 157.00 109.00 72.00 30.00 80.00 57.00
2400 4.00 255.00 161.00 139.00 126.00 73.00 95.00 140.00
3200 120.00 228.00 251.00 73.00 190.00 35.00 2.00 121.00
4000 137.00 226.00 147.00 152.00 79.00 24.00 156.00 178.00
5200 39.00 52.00 155.00 210.00 91.00 18.00 168.00 140.00
6250 240.00 140.00 72.00 98.00 222.00 231.00 21.00 169.00


D7 x D4, 6 x 6

Dec C TMOT
0 12 35 47 63 86
13.38 111.00 229.00 246.00 107.00 16.00 183.00
23.11 157.00 243.00 23.00 14.00 252.00 128.00
38.69 234.00 237.00 245.00 172.00 123.00 20.00
46.48 221.00 91.00 111.00 154.00 215.00 177.00
54.26 115.00 182.00 168.00 30.00 83.00 169.00
61.4 2.00 227.00 177.00 133.00 204.00 104.00


RPM x D6, 8 x 8 (1)


12 24 40 64 78 92 106 132
680 119.00 68.00 220.00 19.00 114.00 69.00 100.00 86.00
1000 150.00 38.00 220.00 155.00 177.00 132.00 116.00 197.00
1600 148.00 146.00 132.00 84.00 76.00 81.00 54.00 196.00
2400 39.00 134.00 73.00 130.00 120.00 132.00 196.00 18.00
3200 36.00 155.00 82.00 74.00 147.00 253.00 73.00 140.00
4000 49.00 100.00 240.00 137.00 46.00 79.00 244.00 38.00
5200 19.00 14.00 79.00 4.00 152.00 98.00 127.00 153.00
6250 252.00 158.00 105.00 60.00 2.00 86.00 19.00 242.00


------------------OTHER------------------


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~~~MAF Table


(null) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
(null) -20330.007539.00-16440.00 393.005450.00-1663.00-3837.00-25662.00-4438.0031967.0025218.0027217.004169.0010956.00-30646.0022996.00
(null) 30788.0028695.00-18420.00-7247.00-27901.0026409.00-5636.0024233.006962.00-9122.0030825.00-24904.0029083.00-19481.0018835.00-801.00
(null) -17747.00-27381.00-2804.00-30135.0031681.00-19718.00-14089.0024325.00-31748.00-31715.00-10226.0010039.00-28610.0029192.00-28314.00-7326.00
(null) 741.00-7033.00-27124.0025485.00-7161.0029061.00-2499.00-14963.00-17755.00-9974.00-1531.00-7612.00-18286.00-30997.00-14621.00-3289.00
(null) 8859.00-23430.00-27687.00-27915.0024976.004060.0011976.00-32268.009563.006633.0032758.00-14507.00 857.0017138.0023764.00 229.00
(null) -76.0013410.004564.00-22881.0032070.006561.00-18049.0027161.00-14392.0018052.00-22467.00-1363.00-10620.00-21227.00-15322.00-22369.00
(null) -16517.008117.00-26760.00-23223.0028003.002694.001855.00-23155.00-14352.00-19069.00-3549.008520.0015893.00-30825.0029039.0028583.00
(null) -15225.0010674.0016892.0010164.00-29912.00-13367.0013351.002188.00-29500.00-13176.001175.0019304.0011931.002354.009010.0010648.00
(null) -18624.00-28809.00-17987.00-18663.00-23163.00-17174.00-22626.00-28683.0031474.009104.0030890.0029649.0021016.00-2710.00-3068.00-4428.00
(null) 6842.00-9095.00-20117.00-27656.00-28105.00-23662.0029676.00-20930.00-25627.007974.00-11115.0017111.00-3297.0015908.0021395.00-7558.00
(null) -13660.0011943.00-488.00-31142.00-20597.0019870.00-17561.0028528.00-6021.00-31889.00-17129.004414.001671.00-32058.0016359.00-21917.00
(null) 28717.00-11535.00-8469.0030067.00-31445.0026849.0012485.0021338.0010799.0010984.0027589.00-21902.00-7726.009188.0020640.00-9219.00
(null) 21444.00-1890.00-27081.00-12205.00-1722.0010515.00-782.00-1977.003738.00-26630.005765.00-13603.0032042.00-10924.0031308.0017629.00
(null) 7022.001037.00-22974.0011286.0020020.00-14393.00-11930.00-1949.0022078.007194.0010975.0012717.00-8812.00-289.007817.0023827.00
(null) 23948.0023110.00-30867.0023915.002535.0017686.00-5470.00-32312.00-6131.0028666.009848.00-23293.00 -90.0018319.00-2184.0026596.00
(null) 31940.0011962.00-1021.0016063.00-32009.00-25021.00-31154.00-13280.00-20549.0015656.00-20517.0015912.00-28661.00-14561.0032203.0022133.00


-------------------FUEL-------------------


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(null) 82.00


FUEL - WOT - ret

RPM Load
wot
6400 1.86
6060 0.23
5320 0.59
4600 0.53
4000 0.25
3640 0.66
3280 0.54
2920 1.75
2460 1.64
2200 1.23
2000 0.41
1600 0.43
1320 0.96
1120 0.86
880 1.80
680 0.98


FUEL - WOT - ret (afr)

RPM Load
wot
6400 27.33
6060 3.45
5320 8.73
4600 7.81
4000 3.67
3640 9.65
3280 7.92
2920 25.72
2460 24.12
2200 18.15
2000 5.97
1600 6.32
1320 14.13
1120 12.63
880 26.41
680 14.36


FUEL - WOT - adv

RPM Load
WOT
6400 0.39
6060 0.27
5320 0.42
4600 1.09
4000 1.80
3640 0.37
3280 0.96
2920 0.16
2460 0.33
2200 1.96
2000 0.09
1600 0.83
1320 1.95
1120 0.05
880 0.30
680 0.74


FUEL - WOT - adv (afr)

RPM Load
WOT
6400 37.63
6060 55.34
5320 34.84
4600 13.54
4000 8.18
3640 40.03
3280 15.30
2920 89.60
2460 44.80
2200 7.50
2000 156.80
1600 17.75
1320 7.53
1120 268.80
880 48.25
680 19.81


FUEL - pt - ret

RPM Load
1 1.5 2 2.6 3.2 3.9 4.6 5.3 6 6.6 7.4 8.2
6400 1.28 0.21 1.73 0.83 0.34 1.82 0.68 0.88 1.33 0.20 1.74 1.42
6060 1.84 1.59 0.93 1.58 0.99 1.47 0.23 1.23 0.44 0.70 0.38 0.47
5320 0.91 0.51 1.27 0.60 1.23 1.87 1.98 0.60 0.69 1.33 1.52 0.89
4600 1.63 1.36 0.21 0.60 1.56 0.36 1.05 0.75 0.30 1.88 1.64 0.54
4000 1.56 0.07 1.28 0.24 1.02 0.28 1.54 1.08 0.30 1.73 1.65 1.07
3640 1.23 1.49 1.45 1.30 1.48 1.66 1.65 1.26 0.22 1.93 1.79 0.35
3280 0.31 1.29 0.36 1.51 1.93 1.54 1.77 1.59 0.34 0.70 0.20 0.14
2920 0.90 0.95 0.59 0.02 0.09 1.51 1.75 0.44 1.61 0.28 1.33 1.70
2460 0.91 0.48 1.91 0.52 1.84 0.62 0.77 1.64 1.91 0.88 0.39 1.21
2200 1.94 1.18 0.20 0.83 1.02 0.83 1.73 1.91 1.75 1.15 1.62 1.31
2000 0.91 0.61 0.71 1.22 1.73 0.14 0.96 0.94 1.85 0.22 1.42 1.88
1600 0.40 1.40 1.70 1.70 1.29 0.30 1.53 1.42 1.44 0.55 0.46 0.15
1320 0.84 1.41 0.02 0.76 0.92 1.48 1.98 1.65 0.12 0.44 0.26 1.50
1120 1.77 0.22 1.35 0.36 0.98 1.12 0.23 1.63 1.34 0.98 1.10 0.15
880 1.80 1.30 1.80 1.04 1.29 0.15 1.45 1.47 0.28 0.51 1.16 0.27
680 0.84 1.44 0.96 1.17 0.27 1.97 1.74 1.91 1.43 0.30 0.88 0.30


FUEL - pt - ret (afr)

RPM Load
1 1.5 2 2.6 3.2 3.9 4.6 5.3 6 6.6 7.4 8.2
6400 11.47 69.69 8.48 17.75 42.76 8.08 21.63 16.65 11.07 72.37 8.44 10.34
6060 7.97 9.27 15.81 9.31 14.82 10.01 64.88 11.98 33.60 20.91 38.40 31.36
5320 16.22 28.95 11.61 24.44 11.91 7.87 7.41 24.44 21.38 11.07 9.65 16.51
4600 9.05 10.81 69.69 24.44 9.41 40.90 14.04 19.60 48.25 7.84 8.96 27.27
4000 9.41 209.07 11.47 60.70 14.47 52.27 9.55 13.63 49.52 8.51 8.92 13.73
3640 11.98 9.85 10.12 11.27 9.96 8.83 8.92 11.69 67.20 7.62 8.22 41.81
3280 47.04 11.40 40.90 9.75 7.62 9.55 8.29 9.22 42.76 21.14 75.26 104.53
2920 16.36 15.55 24.76 627.20 171.05 9.75 8.40 33.60 9.13 52.27 11.07 8.67
2460 16.22 30.85 7.68 28.08 7.97 23.82 19.20 8.96 7.71 16.65 37.63 12.14
2200 7.59 12.46 72.37 17.75 14.47 17.75 8.48 7.68 8.40 12.80 9.09 11.20
2000 16.08 24.12 20.68 12.06 8.48 104.53 15.30 15.68 7.94 67.20 10.34 7.84
1600 36.89 10.51 8.67 8.67 11.40 48.25 9.60 10.34 10.23 26.50 31.89 99.03
1320 17.59 10.40 627.20 19.40 15.95 9.96 7.44 8.92 125.44 33.60 57.02 9.80
1120 8.29 67.20 10.88 40.90 15.05 13.16 62.72 9.00 10.94 14.93 13.34 99.03
880 8.15 11.33 8.18 14.15 11.40 99.03 10.12 10.01 52.27 28.95 12.71 53.76
680 17.42 10.23 15.30 12.54 53.76 7.47 8.44 7.68 10.28 48.25 16.80 49.52


FUEL - pt - adv

RPM Load
1 1.5 2 2.6 3.2 3.9 4.6 5.3 6 6.6 7.4 8.2
6400 0.59 1.84 1.67 0.93 0.36 0.55 1.69 1.86 0.69 1.90 1.64 0.73
6060 0.60 1.73 1.29 0.84 0.68 0.93 0.48 1.08 1.40 0.27 0.88 1.26
5320 0.05 1.57 0.47 0.93 0.42 1.09 1.70 1.34 1.41 1.43 1.48 0.03
4600 0.14 1.38 1.18 0.78 1.90 1.92 0.84 1.64 0.95 1.46 0.41 1.14
4000 0.07 0.07 1.40 0.02 1.91 0.02 1.20 0.29 0.82 0.17 1.15 1.91
3640 0.12 0.16 1.23 0.63 0.38 1.71 0.25 0.49 0.38 0.45 0.39 0.88
3280 0.62 0.25 1.23 0.73 1.50 0.12 0.28 0.22 1.05 1.53 0.12 1.58
2920 0.30 0.88 1.36 0.02 1.55 0.05 0.63 1.37 0.02 0.97 0.12 1.03
2460 1.93 1.27 1.27 0.31 0.87 1.79 0.51 1.88 0.57 1.81 0.15 1.55
2200 1.88 0.55 0.93 1.59 0.64 1.19 1.07 1.96 1.45 1.98 1.51 0.14
2000 1.25 0.23 0.57 0.45 1.84 1.45 1.24 1.71 0.43 0.94 0.48 1.63
1600 1.55 1.95 0.60 0.01 1.59 0.22 0.99 1.89 0.13 1.77 1.20 1.65
1320 0.19 0.38 1.42 0.48 1.74 1.68 1.48 0.35 0.57 0.38 0.58 0.49
1120 1.88 0.71 0.29 0.13 1.29 0.20 1.95 1.39 1.25 1.79 1.02 1.24
880 1.15 0.80 1.45 0.55 0.30 1.73 0.55 1.39 0.80 1.67 1.59 0.63
680 0.89 0.59 0.89 0.39 0.64 0.31 1.11 1.31 0.11 0.60 1.39 1.93


FUEL - pt - adv (afr)

RPM Load
1 1.5 2 2.6 3.2 3.9 4.6 5.3 6 6.6 7.4 8.2
6400 24.76 7.97 8.79 15.81 40.90 26.50 8.71 7.91 21.38 7.74 8.96 20.23
6060 24.44 8.51 11.40 17.42 21.63 15.81 30.35 13.63 10.51 55.34 16.80 11.69
5320 313.60 9.36 31.36 15.81 34.84 13.44 8.63 11.00 10.45 10.28 9.90 470.40
4600 104.53 10.69 12.46 18.82 7.74 7.65 17.59 8.96 15.42 10.06 35.50 12.89
4000 209.07 209.07 10.51 627.20 7.71 627.20 12.30 50.85 17.92 85.53 12.80 7.68
3640 125.44 94.08 11.91 23.23 38.40 8.59 58.80 29.87 39.20 32.44 37.63 16.80
3280 23.82 58.80 11.91 20.02 9.80 125.44 52.27 67.20 14.04 9.60 125.44 9.31
2920 48.25 16.65 10.81 627.20 9.46 268.80 23.23 10.75 627.20 15.17 125.44 14.25
2460 7.62 11.54 11.61 47.04 16.95 8.22 28.95 7.81 25.78 8.11 99.03 9.50
2200 7.84 26.88 15.81 9.22 22.95 12.38 13.73 7.50 10.17 7.44 9.75 104.53
2000 11.76 64.88 25.78 32.44 8.01 10.17 11.83 8.59 34.21 15.68 30.85 9.05
1600 9.46 7.56 24.441881.60 9.22 67.20 14.82 7.78 110.68 8.29 12.30 8.92
1320 78.40 39.20 10.34 30.85 8.44 8.75 9.90 41.81 25.78 38.40 25.43 29.87
1120 7.81 20.68 50.85 117.60 11.40 72.37 7.56 10.57 11.76 8.22 14.47 11.83
880 12.80 18.27 10.12 26.50 49.52 8.51 26.88 10.57 18.27 8.79 9.22 23.23
680 16.51 24.76 16.51 37.63 22.95 47.04 13.25 11.20 134.40 24.44 10.57 7.62


Idle Fuel

RPM Load
1 2 3.2
560 0.34 1.39 1.42
600 0.69 0.20 1.48
960 1.86 0.48 0.79
1200 1.35 0.20 0.83
2000 0.85 1.87 1.83
4000 1.85 1.69 1.82


Idle Fuel (afr)

RPM Load
1 2 3.2
560 42.76 10.57 10.34
600 21.38 72.37 9.90
960 7.91 30.85 18.63
1200 10.88 72.37 17.75
2000 17.26 7.87 8.04
4000 7.94 8.71 8.08


Idle vs Coolant

Coolant Temp Idle Speed
(null)
warmed up 145.00
(null) 128.00
(null) 235.00
cold 97.00


----------------IGNITION-----------------


(null)
(null) 82.00


Dwell


1 2 3 4 5 6 6
(null) 249.00 140.00 80.00 63.00 39.00 77.00 129.00
(null) 255.00 211.00 26.00 152.00 109.00 100.00 133.00
(null) 183.00 99.00 8.00 174.00 237.00 8.00 163.00
(null) 128.00 84.00 105.00 139.00 53.00 201.00 91.00
(null) 46.00 44.00 62.00 147.00 84.00 74.00 123.00
(null) 170.00 69.00 245.00 249.00 155.00 37.00 45.00
(null) 162.00 133.00 175.00 144.00 161.00 107.00 231.00
(null) 253.00 33.00 127.00 29.00 224.00 90.00 255.00
(null) 204.00 182.00 94.00 134.00 5.00 151.00 250.00
(null) 127.00 187.00 110.00 17.00 9.00 161.00 226.00
(null) 107.00 245.00 148.00 45.00 122.00 181.00 33.00
(null) 117.00 223.00 170.00 164.00 46.00 180.00 161.00


IGN - pt - ret

RPM Load
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
6400 -12.00 -60.75-133.50-124.50 30.75-133.50-123.75 -57.00 23.25 -30.75 -37.50 36.75
6060 -95.25-113.25-128.25 -36.00 45.00-128.25 32.25 22.50-108.00 -9.75 -13.50 -74.25
5320 -119.25-122.25 16.50 -85.50 -31.50-113.25-120.75 -7.50-113.25-120.75 -12.75 -21.00
4600 -82.50-140.25 16.50 -88.50-137.25 11.25 -6.00 19.50 3.75 46.50 -31.50-113.25
4000 -109.50 -66.75 -30.75 -46.50 -20.25 -66.00 24.00 -53.25 -92.25 44.25 -35.25-127.50
3640 -1.50 16.50 33.75-134.25-111.75 -16.50-117.00-121.50-120.75 44.25 -84.75 -57.75
3280 -18.75 27.00 -82.50 -42.75-108.75 -94.50 -60.75-140.25-113.25-141.00-113.25 -33.00
2920 -125.25 -13.50 -16.50 -42.00-100.50 -24.75 -39.75 -81.00-120.75-137.25-133.50 -30.00
2460 -132.00 -81.00 -78.75 -78.00 -23.25 -90.00 33.75-112.50 36.00-125.25 32.25 -73.50
2200 18.00 -68.25 -33.75-116.25 -18.75 12.00-133.50 42.75 -23.25-110.25 0.00 -93.75
2000 12.75-134.25 -4.50 31.50 -81.75 1.50-120.00 -10.50 -69.00 -7.50 -60.00-123.75
1600 -138.00 -59.25 8.25-105.75 33.00-132.75-113.25 39.00 -23.25 -28.50 -81.00 31.50
1320 -105.00 -99.75-109.50 21.00 12.75 -83.25 -2.25 36.75 24.75 -2.25 -0.75 -41.25
1120 -78.75-115.50 -90.75 -97.50-111.75 36.75 50.25 -42.75 36.00 -63.75 -30.75 19.50
880 -138.00 6.00-133.50 -78.75-135.75 49.50 35.25 -78.75-115.50 -50.25 30.00 -71.25
680 7.50 -9.00 -12.75 6.00-138.00 32.25 -29.25-127.50 48.75 21.75 -15.75-125.25


IGN - pt - adv


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
6400 30.00 -69.75 43.50 -47.25 20.25 -32.25 -75.75 -61.50 -99.00 -67.50 8.25-136.50
6060 -118.50 -45.75 -93.75 -6.75 -77.25 -20.25 -15.00-132.00-108.75 15.00-114.75 -34.50
5320 12.00-111.75 -15.75 -3.75-120.75 -6.75 -22.50 13.50 26.25 -10.50 31.50 9.00
4600 -75.75 -69.00 33.75 0.75 6.75 24.00 49.50 11.25 37.50 37.50 -71.25 24.75
4000 -134.25 9.75 -84.00 -83.25 -3.00 1.50 -81.75 -21.00-118.50 -63.75 -98.25 -6.75
3640 -42.00 -92.25 -72.75 33.00-129.00 -80.25-117.00-140.25-107.25 -1.50 13.50 -7.50
3280 27.75-113.25 -28.50 -99.00 -13.50-126.00-125.25 -81.75 -86.25 -14.25 38.25 20.25
2920 45.75-126.00 -90.75 36.00 -7.50 -19.50 50.25 39.75 -6.75 -31.50-138.00 15.75
2460 25.50-140.25 -75.00 -31.50 -99.00 -20.25-128.25-111.00 29.25 -15.75-126.75 -48.75
2200 -102.75-120.75-139.50-114.00 -11.25 11.25 -45.00 -0.75 -38.25 -99.00-115.50 -38.25
2000 -45.00 3.75-126.75-137.25-120.00-123.00 17.25 -93.00-128.25-109.50 -88.50 -90.00
1600 -134.25 18.00 -33.75 -55.50-126.75-139.50 -99.75 -62.25 -36.75 -37.50 -79.50-123.00
1320 -42.00-113.25-105.00 -21.00 -37.50 6.00 -34.50 -7.50 -37.50-132.00 -41.25-128.25
1120 5.25 -85.50 -18.75 49.50-138.00-104.25 -56.25 -23.25 -37.50 -67.50 44.25 2.25
880 -25.50 -39.00 -6.75 -85.50 -37.50 -18.75-128.25 30.75 -44.25-128.25 -84.00 -61.50
680 -105.00 -19.50 -67.50 -9.00 -2.25 -38.25-111.00 -40.50 0.75 -13.50 5.25-129.75


IGN WOT - ret


1 2 3 4 5 6
6400 -93.00 -63.75-112.50 9.00 -99.75 -39.00
6060 44.25-138.75 -94.50 -15.00-124.50 -90.75
5320 27.00-123.75 -10.50 -60.75 -87.75 -95.25
4600 -45.75 -62.25 -27.75 29.25 -76.50 -67.50
4000 36.00-126.00 -29.25 -25.50 -60.00 -15.00
3640 14.25 27.00 32.25 -61.50 -97.50 -20.25
3280 36.00 -21.75 12.00 -35.25 -69.00-120.00
2920 -126.75-105.00 -6.00 39.00 -57.75 -95.25
2460 30.75 -42.00 29.25-130.50 42.00-120.00
2200 -48.00-123.75 -81.00 -86.25 -54.00 -58.50
2000 -112.50 6.00 -84.75 -11.25 39.00 -53.25
1600 -102.75 20.25 -33.00 -93.00 12.00 -55.50
1320 16.50 39.75-134.25 -81.75-113.25 -39.00
1120 -66.00-127.50 -87.00 -8.25 39.75 1.50
880 -79.50-114.00-128.25 -72.00-127.50 -15.75
680 -70.50-110.25 36.75 35.25 -61.50 9.00


IGN WOT - adv


1 2 3 4 5 6
6400 -8.25-141.00-139.50 -3.00 -29.25-141.00
6060 -100.50 -5.25-105.00 -96.75 -37.50-129.75
5320 -138.00-113.25 23.25 -3.75 -39.75 22.50
4600 -12.75 -16.50 -79.50 -76.50-108.00-131.25
4000 -85.50 18.75 -0.75 -64.50 -11.25 -27.00
3640 22.50 -6.75-138.00 -3.75 -60.75-132.00
3280 -21.00 -80.25-129.00-126.00 37.50 -37.50
2920 -59.25 20.25-138.75 -66.75 -42.75 -12.00
2460 -2.25 -58.50 -67.50 -37.50-138.00 -28.50
2200 -110.25-126.00-105.75-139.50 -48.75 -6.75
2000 -83.25 -56.25 -51.00-123.75 -98.25 13.50
1600 6.75 -13.50-132.75 -21.75 30.75 4.50
1320 39.00 22.50 -31.50 -3.75 -62.25 11.25
1120 -69.00 -51.00 -82.50-132.75 -41.25 10.50
880 -28.50 -77.25 -30.00 6.00-120.75-135.75
680 35.25 -70.50 13.50 -84.00 -97.50 -76.50


------------------Coolant Temp Related------------------


(null)
(null) 82.00


Coolant related 1

Coolant Temp
(null)
(null) 4.00
(null) 220.00
(null) 64.00
(null) 170.00
(null) 89.00
(null) 123.00


Coolant related 2

Coolant Temp
(null)
(null) 57.00
(null) 216.00
(null) 30.00
(null) 0.00
(null) 255.00
(null) 95.00


Coolant related 3


(null)
(null) 247.00
(null) 240.00
(null) 11.00
(null) 9.00


------------------Load Related------------------


(null)
(null) 82.00


RPM x Load, 12 x 5

RPM LOAD
3.9 4.6 5.3 6.0 7.6
1120 243.00 169.00 130.00 248.00 52.00
1600 164.00 96.00 156.00 152.00 119.00
2000 45.00 222.00 148.00 147.00 48.00
2200 96.00 172.00 175.00 100.00 67.00
2400 75.00 59.00 32.00 163.00 134.00
2920 118.00 165.00 75.00 53.00 101.00
3280 10.00 150.00 106.00 138.00 150.00
3640 181.00 168.00 40.00 90.00 237.00
4000 198.00 193.00 107.00 82.00 80.00
4600 67.00 182.00 252.00 193.00 122.00
5320 162.00 242.00 124.00 152.00 23.00
6080 202.00 150.00 44.00 43.00 219.00


RPM x Load, 4 x 6 (1)

RPM Load
1 2.5 4.5 6 7.5 8.5
1800 247.00 183.00 10.00 183.00 15.00 243.00
2400 206.00 221.00 216.00 58.00 219.00 114.00
3000 207.00 26.00 144.00 60.00 220.00 7.00
4000 31.00 214.00 38.00 91.00 38.00 109.00


RPM x Load, 4 x 6 (2)

RPM Load
1 2.5 4.5 6 7.5 8.5
1800 3.00 45.00 21.00 187.00 255.00 153.00
2400 254.00 252.00 17.00 250.00 153.00 8.00
3000 95.00 68.00 103.00 205.00 252.00 21.00
4000 183.00 145.00 20.00 193.00 222.00 33.00


RPM x Load, 8 x 8

RPM Load
1.2 1.8 2.3 3.4 4.6 5.8 6.4 7.0
600 151.00 38.00 190.00 86.00 233.00 183.00 0.00 6.00
1000 113.00 250.00 224.00 109.00 254.00 73.00 9.00 148.00
1200 168.00 112.00 108.00 174.00 31.00 41.00 154.00 185.00
1480 17.00 202.00 251.00 251.00 201.00 222.00 102.00 215.00
2000 92.00 254.00 185.00 56.00 91.00 47.00 113.00 26.00
3000 70.00 185.00 220.00 65.00 48.00 234.00 48.00 34.00
5000 116.00 51.00 0.00 227.00 66.00 150.00 199.00 226.00
6520 121.00 90.00 99.00 44.00 159.00 215.00 50.00 141.00


Will update when I progress....so there you go like I said I will put it all on the table for the community....any help would be appreciated...
 
#45 · (Edited)
there are many read and write programs out there that work for BMW

you will need a cord that supports it as well. I found all this a few years ago with trial and error. Works very well.

the problem is creating a definition and tables for the code and modifying the original .bin unit. That's what seperates BMW tuners from other tuners.

FYI half the people you listed that do this already - bought/sub it off one guy who did all the R&D. I am friends with said R&D guy. Don't beleive everything you read - Marketing is powerful =).

i have flash tuning and custom maps for just about every BMW platform - I'm still organizing all of it.
 
#46 ·
a pirated version of bmw carsoft???


and 50 bux for odb2 dongle??
 
#50 ·
So much on the pros and cons of DIY tuning.... Honestly, I'm less interested in tuning than I am maintenance. Would be nice if there was a reasonably priced diagnostic tool that gave me full access to all of my car's systems. Not talking about some illegal hacked tool here. I'm talking something like Autoenginuity with BMW expansion. Unfortunately, nothing seems to exist for my ZHP with MS45.1 (if you know of something, let me know). A tuning tool would be nice for some but complete diagnostic coverage would be a real asset to the community.
 
#51 · (Edited)
I'm talking something like Autoenginuity with BMW expansion. Unfortunately, nothing seems to exist for my ZHP with MS45.1 (if you know of something, let me know). A tuning tool would be nice for some but complete diagnostic coverage would be a real asset to the community.
it exist, it's called the Bavarian technic tool.

i've been using it for months now :)

http://www.bavariantechnic.com/

you're welcome :)
 
#57 · (Edited)
MS45.x has RSA 512bit encryption. Newer cars RSA 1024bit! Cheap Bootleg/copy EOBD2 will not work period. You will end up buying a BDM.

BTW, just to let you all know BMW only garantees 14 flashes on DME. Even thou, you might get the tool to read/write on same DME slot thru OBD; some of you guys might end up locking a DME and :bawling:.
 
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