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Old 04-27-2017, 02:20 PM   #161
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Zonda, pffft, who cares. The Italians only do 4 things right: pizza, pasta, wine, and the occasional Ferrari.
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Old 04-28-2017, 08:44 AM   #162
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I agree to let this rest, but only if we can all agree on one thing:

Put a Zonda C12 S next to a Civic Type R on the SAME exact course, using the SAME exact driver, in the SAME exact conditions, using the SAME accurate and identical method of timing the laps, the Zonda comes out on top, every time.

By the way, I only hitched onto the Zonda because it was right there, I can make the same argument about any of the others that were close such as the Z06, or Lambo.
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Old 04-28-2017, 09:14 AM   #163
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I agree to let this rest, but only if we can all agree on one thing:

Put a Zonda C12 S next to a Civic Type R on the SAME exact course, using the SAME exact driver, in the SAME exact conditions, using the SAME accurate and identical method of timing the laps, the Zonda comes out on top, every time.

By the way, I only hitched onto the Zonda because it was right there, I can make the same argument about any of the others that were close such as the Z06, or Lambo.
Sure, it also costs 20x as much so shut your damn mouth and enjoy the fact that you can now buy a Civic hatchback that is nearly as fast as a fvcking Zonda around the Nurburgring for ~$35k while having the reliability, practicality, and low running costs of a Civic. It's a good time to be a car enthusiast.

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Old 04-28-2017, 09:18 AM   #164
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Sure, it also costs 20x as much so shut your damn mouth and enjoy the fact that you can now buy a Civic hatchback that is nearly as fast as a fvcking Zonda around the Nurburgring for ~$35k while having the reliability, practicality, and low running costs of a Civic. It's a good time to be a car enthusiast.
Sam Wins, Great Point, /thread
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't he tell you to shut your fucking mouth?
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Old 04-28-2017, 09:45 AM   #166
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Zonda, pffft, who cares. The Italians only do 4 things right: pizza, pasta, wine, and the occasional Ferrari.
thats debatable
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Old 04-28-2017, 09:56 AM   #167
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't he tell you to shut your fucking mouth?
He said DAMN. That's much more acceptable when having a constructive argument.
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't he tell you to shut your fucking mouth?
you shut up with that rusty car of yours!

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thats debatable
Man, if only you could see the entire Cured Pig Jowel I purchased a week or two ago at Eataly in Boston. Yes, an entire cheek of Guanciale! Been cubing it in this and that, cutting slices and frying like bacon just so the fat can melt in my mouth. Thanks for making me fatter, you hairy italian.
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thats debatable
I actually hesitated to include wine in that list since I stick to cheap Spanish / Australian / California stuff. You Yanks do a pretty good job with high alcohol Zinfandels. Too bad the price jumps when they get popular.
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He said DAMN. That's much more acceptable when having a constructive argument.
This is one new englander talking to another (trizz) so no rounding out the edges when I address him. Ever. Instead I sharpen them

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you shut up with that rusty car of yours!

Man, if only you could see the entire Cured Pig Jowel I purchased a week or two ago at Eataly in Boston. Yes, an entire cheek of Guanciale! Been cubing it in this and that, cutting slices and frying like bacon just so the fat can melt in my mouth. Thanks for making me fatter, you hairy italian.

nahhhhhhhhhhhh its going to get fixed i swear

You realize they have guanciale at Venda Ravioli right? Eataly is so good. I was there in the beginning of April when I took the misses to go see Sebastian Maniscalco at the Wilbur.

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I actually hesitated to include wine in that list since I stick to cheap Spanish / Australian / California stuff. You Yanks do a pretty good job with high alcohol Zinfandels. Too bad the price jumps when they get popular.
Spanish > ***** love it

Italians aren't too bad, not nearly as overpriced as Napa and Malbecs.
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Old 04-28-2017, 12:17 PM   #171
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This is one new englander talking to another (trizz) so no rounding out the edges when I address him. Ever. Instead I sharpen them
That's right you piece of sh*t. New england hardens you, we are like hand forged damascus up here with each other, not a plain old stamped steel POS knife.

You need to get yourself out and go visit this place called Farm and Coast in Padanaram in South Dartmouth mass. Home made Charcuterie on the spot, using only local ingredients, the fat on any of that meet will melt on your tongue at body temperature. It's EFFIN amazing, all of it!!!! I've had Lamb Terrine, Guanciale, Bacon, Capicola, Smoked Duck Pastrami that was out of this WORLDDDDDDDD. And more.

http://farmandcoastmarket.com/meat/butcher-charcuterie/
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Again we can debate on how accurate these times are all day long and if they are not then none of this matters. However, let's take a quick look at the Zonda C12 S (one on the list that the CTR beat), vs the Civic Type R:

Zonda C12 S:
The Zonda S[7] uses a 7.0 L (427 cu in) AMG-tuned version of the engine producing 550 PS (400 kW; 540 hp). It can accelerate to 62 mph (100 km/h) in 3.7 secs, to 100 mph (160 km/h) in 7.5 secs and complete the quarter mile in 11.3 secs. Lateral acceleration on the skidpad is 1.18 g (11.6 m/s), it can reach a top speed of 208 mph (335 km/h), and carries a price tag of US$500,000.

The Zonda S features an elongated nose, flaps at the rear for improved aerodynamics, and new light clusters and exhausts. Only fifteen 7.0 L Zonda S cars were produced.

HP = 547
Torque = 553 ft/lb
0-62 = 3.7 sec
0-100 = 7.5 sec
1/4 mile = 11.3 sec
Lateral Acceleration on skidpad = 1.18g
Top Speed = 208mph
Weight = 2756 lbs

Civic Type R:
The Honda Civic Type R is powered by K20C1 Direct Fuel Injection 2.0-litre VTEC Turbocharged engine with Earth Dreams Technology. An R+ button is provided to increase the responsiveness of the chassis, throttle and engine for enhanced driving thrills. Maximum power is 228 kW (310 PS; 306 bhp) at 6500 RPM and maximum torque of 400 Nm (300 lbft) at 2500-4500 RPM. The engine is mated to a 6-speed manual transmission with a factory equipped plate-style limited slip differential. Honda quotes that the Type R does 0-62 mph in 5.7 second although users reached it in 5.2 seconds and produced a 1/4 mile time of 14.1s at 105.6 mph (169.9 km/h). It has a top speed of 167 mph (269 km/h).[27]

HP = 306
Torque = 295
0-62 = 5.7 sec (some claim 5.2 sec)
0-100 = 11.2
1/4 mile = 14.1 sec
Lateral acceleration on skidpad = Not much info out there, but a Civic SI was tested to be 0.88 g's, so assume maybe 0.90 or slightly more.
Top Speed = 167 mph
Weight = preliminary numbers show around 3000lbs



So there you have it. There is no way in hell (video or not), that the Civic Type R beats the Zonda C12 S around the Ring, unless it had a far far far far far better driver.

The Zonda wins in:
HP
Torque
0-62
0-100
1/4 mile
Lateral G's
Top Speed
Weight

If you don't think having better numbers in all of these categories wouldn't result in a faster car around the 'Ring, something's wrong with you.
Can make the same argument about the 718 Cayman, or the Ftype R, but both are faster than the Zonda on the top gear track.

BTW, the VW Golf GTI Clubsport S Did a 7:47 with a 306 hp engine, 280 lbft. Thats just several seconds off the civic, and as quick as a Murcielago or a Ferrari 599, and that was a confirmed result. Are you going to call bs on that too?

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Well, not the same car, but there's always the lap in the Zonda R, but man that CRUSHES even the Civic Type R's supposed time.

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/5-s...oduction-cars/
The Zonda R and the Zonda S are two very different cars. The Zonda R will CRUSH the Zonda S as well.
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Old 04-28-2017, 03:00 PM   #173
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Well, not the same car, but there's always the lap in the Zonda R, but man that CRUSHES even the Civic Type R's supposed time.

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/5-s...oduction-cars/
lol at this image from the comments section of the above link:



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Old 04-29-2017, 11:35 AM   #174
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Old 04-29-2017, 11:48 AM   #175
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My wife works at Eataly, I think I'll have her bring some stuff home for Trizzered to calm him down.
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Old 05-01-2017, 07:24 AM   #176
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm that would work nicely!
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Old 05-15-2017, 11:55 AM   #177
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Huracan Performante Crusher, lights up new record on Nurburgring.
http://www.automobilemag.com/news/ni...34884A673E2722

Civic Type-R soon to beat that time too. LOL

And by China of all people, who don't normally make cars for the entire world. it's like the Chinese version of a Rimac Concept-One
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