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Old 11-13-2016, 01:53 PM   #1
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getting from 250,000 to 500,000 miles wanna give back to the fanatics

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Kburger again at 570,000 miles. Wanna give back to all you fanatics that helped me get here. Ok this is strictly engine talk. Too many systems to talk about. Listen to your engine where its quiet and no background noise at all. Sit in driver seat with door open car idling. This is where you hear what the engine needs. Lifter tap is normal for first 15-40 seconds after cold start only. Don't get too anal engine will make some noise learn what each noise is. Secret to getting from 250K to 500K is lucas synthetic oil stabilizer. I add one bottle with every 15,000 mile oil change. it bought me 250,000 miles before I had to replace hydraulic lifters. Yes it eventually clogs them but if it buys you 250K miles well worth it to me. And don't pay insane 30 for INA OEM lifters. AJUsa has cheap quality lifters at ecstuning.com. After replacing the hydraulic lifers I settled on European spec 0/40 mobil 1. It gave me the overall best results to quiet my engine in all conditions. up to 500K miles I only used mobil1 5/30 changing every 15K miles. You gotta track everything you do to the car I put it all in notes in my phone. key to all electronic media is redundant backups so you never lose your data. And you don't miss oil changes. there is another guy with my exact same silver 2000 323ci he has same mileage he only ever changed oil at 30,000 miles hehe.
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Old 11-13-2016, 02:00 PM   #2
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30,000 mile oil change interval!?!?

Wow that's some good oil. Thanks for the update!
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Old 11-13-2016, 03:15 PM   #3
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Are you still using the original timing chains and plastic guides? What are your driving conditions?
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Old 11-13-2016, 09:03 PM   #4
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Old 11-13-2016, 09:58 PM   #5
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Old 11-16-2016, 01:18 PM   #6
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original timing chains and guides yes. small tiny chip off top red chain guide in center of vanos. I left it alone. driving conditions. live in southeast Pennsylvania. 75 percent highway miles always use cruise control. mountains are small where I live nothing crazy. 4 seasons. average 30's-40's through winter 70's-90's summer. at 500,000 miles replaced transmission and clutch kit (single mass valeo kit), drive shaft and rear diff. replaced trans mounts, diff mounts, replaced rear subframe and engine hydraulic lifters. rust has been a big problem. I replaced entire driver side door found the shell on ebay for 150 shipped. You can get good deals if you know where to look. Getting into body work diy cuz even my good local shops are charging too much money for tiny rust spots.
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Old 11-16-2016, 01:25 PM   #7
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I am at 226,000+ right now, just did second CCV replacement and second cooling system overhaul. Waaaay too many other things to list. I do notice an occasional tick on startup sometimes, but goes away as soon as car starts to get warm.

So the loaded question for you is: Do you burn oil? It's a 323ci, so maybe not...
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Old 11-16-2016, 06:14 PM   #8
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Old 11-16-2016, 08:31 PM   #9
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That is amazing distance. Over 200k and no oil burning with my 328. My only fear for mechanical failure on the engine is snapping a chain guide at high rpm.
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Old 11-18-2016, 09:49 PM   #10
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BKMrSteel that fear is justified. When I replaced my hydraulic lifters I had the top center guide out it had a small corner missing. You lose that at high rpm your engine is toast. Most of my miles are between 65 and 80mph. rpm in 5th gear between 3 and 4000 rpm. I wind it up once in awhile but not very often. you cant get too anal about stuff at high mileage. It's easy to overkill the maintenance. I got the coolant snitch. audible alarm in cabin before engine overheats. sucks its not available anymore. it works too it went off when I was draining and refilling entire cooling system during bleeding. works awesome. cant stand the "too late light"
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Old 11-19-2016, 01:44 AM   #11
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BKMrSteel that fear is justified. When I replaced my hydraulic lifters I had the top center guide out it had a small corner missing. You lose that at high rpm your engine is toast. Most of my miles are between 65 and 80mph. rpm in 5th gear between 3 and 4000 rpm. I wind it up once in awhile but not very often. you cant get too anal about stuff at high mileage. It's easy to overkill the maintenance. I got the coolant snitch. audible alarm in cabin before engine overheats. sucks its not available anymore. it works too it went off when I was draining and refilling entire cooling system during bleeding. works awesome. cant stand the "too late light"
I actually ordered the coolant snitch and found out that it's no longer available. That was roughly a year ago. Because of that, and thanks to a member's recommendation--thanks again, Knight!--I went with the Ultragauge. It provides a constant readout for any OBDII fed gauges you want on its screen. You can set alarms, which I did for the coolant at 210f. It's a pretty great alternative to the coolant snitch. The only drawback is the blueish color and the fact that it's an object that has to be mounted in the car, vs a hidden alarm.
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Old 12-31-2016, 04:16 AM   #12
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Thank you for the tips Kburger. Congrats on getting to 500k. Did you use Engine Flush as well when changing the oil such as "Liqui Moly 2037 Pro-Line Engine Flush". I was thinking of doing this and start using Lucas Oil as well.

I have a 2001 330ci with 113,000 and it's burning almost 1/2 Quart of oil every 400-500 miles. It didn't use to do this before but I'm guessing it the build-up around the pistons. I am hoping the engine flush will improve this and maybe the Lucas and changing form 5w-30 to 0w-40 will help as well. Any advise is appreciated. Thanks.

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Old 01-01-2017, 03:20 PM   #13
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kb, thanks for that update... really impressive to get to 500K+ miles... and surprises me on the point of 15K oil intervals, which I always thought to be too long... I use 7.5K intervals and higher grade Group IV synthetics and 5w-40 to protect the valve train... your results are saying oil change frequency doesn't matter that much. Congrats on keeping it going, I like to hear those stories of getting great value from a well-maintained E46.
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Old 01-01-2017, 03:44 PM   #14
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That is amazing distance. Over 200k and no oil burning with my 328. My only fear for mechanical failure on the engine is snapping a chain guide at high rpm.
This is virtually unheard of on the M52/54. Only really a problem on the V8s.
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Old 05-19-2017, 03:16 PM   #15
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thought I would keep adding to this thread a couple times a year. rust is the biggest challenge cuz I live in southeast Pennsylvania near Philadelphia. the car is my work car so I gotta drive it in all conditions. especially bad when i'm drivin when the salt trucks are out. I had a lot of rust work done. even had steel plates welded under the car underneath the back seat about where the rear floor mats are. that area under the car looks like just square pieces of metal. wore big holes right through the car. battery box basically fell out of the car had good body shop weld OEM bmw battery box into trunk. I replaced rear subframe myself. subframe separation was done several years ago lucky that was covered by bmw NA. I spend a couple hundred a month average even doing the work myself. but when you do the math its no worse then buying a new car. and I love everything about the e46. goal is a million miles. I just hope these forums keep going I get a lot of my tech help here. its frustrating that a lot of the posts here get the pictures stripped out i'm assuming to save storage space. I save a lot of stuff to my computer cuz I know the pictures are gonna disappear eventually. anyway thanks everyone on these forums especially guys like mango and jfoj and markusmarkus you guys really know your sh*t -
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Kburger- what's your current mileage?

Are you still doing 30k mi oil changes?


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Old 05-24-2017, 04:45 AM   #17
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I just hope these forums keep going I get a lot of my tech help here. its frustrating that a lot of the posts here get the pictures stripped out i'm assuming to save storage space. I save a lot of stuff to my computer cuz I know the pictures are gonna disappear eventually. anyway thanks everyone on these forums
those are likely broken links. the servers that originally had the photos are gone. doubt they're stripped to save storage space.
i originally ordered my 2000 323Ci new, so it's great to hear your story. I hope the second owner of my 323Ci is still enjoying her still like you and yours.
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Old 05-24-2017, 07:03 AM   #18
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Thought I would add that it's my understanding that the m52 (323/328) engine goes a very long way without burning oil. But the m54 engine (325/330) will start burning oil somewhere in the 100K-150K range. I have no idea what the technical difference is that causes this. On the V8, it was the pre 1995 models that burned the oil with the coating problem. I had a M62TU at 160K miles when I sold it and was not burning any oil (leaking oil was a different story). Even with the leaks it did not go down more than 1/4 quart between 7500 mile changes.

Good luck to the original poster with the 1 million mile goal!

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