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Old 03-12-2017, 01:09 AM   #81
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Honestly, once I left highschool/college, I stopped giving a fvck what people thought about my rides. I got them for me, and couldn't care less what anyone else thinks. The MX5 is one of the best put a smile on your face cars on the planet. On MANY MANY public roads, it's as fast as anything, and usually more fun because you can drive it at 10/10ths without wrapping it around a tree. I've said it in other threads, but my s2000 because LESS fun at the dragon after I turboed it...yes the power is addicting, but it's much harder to control, so you have to back off so you don't crash. The new MX5 looks great (especially the coupe that's coming out) and is still a heap of fun, for not a lot of money. Yes on a regular road it's "slow" but unlike the 323 that everyone says "what about the twistiez"....the mx5 WILL put a hurting on vehicles 10 times the price if the road is curvy enough. Finally, to be honest, as an s2k owner, paying the premium for a used s2k (probably in the high teens for a clean one) vs low 20s for a vehicle 10 years newer (mx5) it would be a tough choice. One of the most fun vehicles I drove in the last year (and I drove quite a few, including a GT3, a turbo, a 458, a DBS, a maserati coupe, etc) was the Fiat abarth. It was like driving a stabbed rat, and you feel like a little kid having a ball. Unfortunately, it's hard to experience this on a test drive, because going around the block with 20mph traffic just showcases all the negatives of these vehicles.
It is ALWAYS more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow. The Miata might be seen as a little b1tch car but damn is it fun, ditto for the Abarth. I'd even peg the Abarth as being MORE fun just because of how pissed off it seems to be all the time, it's just a huge laugh. There's always a lot to be said about the sublime driving experience you get out of a Porsche or a M car but driving a Miata or Abarth at full tilt down a highway at legal speed will put a much bigger smile on your face a lot more often if you're able to get over the badge on the hood. And you won't be losing a sh1t ton of money at the same time. I've always seen the S2000 as the less girly version of the Miata and I think it still holds true. It has a lot of the fun quirks of the Miata with 100hp more and a high revving unique powerplant to boot.

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Look at my truck, do you think I give a **** about what people think about what I drive. My town is all Range Rovers and Porsches, I drive the smurf mobile and my wife drives a Hyundai we are outcasts around here, when I am ready to buy a toy the Miata may be at the top of the list.
Eh, the new Miata is fun but I still like the S2000 more. Partly because of the extra power you get but mostly because the new Miata just doesn't feel as raw. There's a lot of fun to be had but not as much drama and excitement doing it. It's a great car but there just isn't as much raw vibration, noise, and character that the old car had.
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Old 03-12-2017, 01:12 AM   #82
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This stupid forum has me looking at s2ks.

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This stupid thread has me pouring over the differences between Superperformance, Factory Five and Backdraft Racing cobras and seriously considering picking one up. So far, this one is on top of the list.



From all the research I've done, the superperformance aluminum bodies are the best replicas you can get. The fiberglass ones are bleh.
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Old 03-12-2017, 01:14 AM   #83
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It is ALWAYS more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow. The Miata might be seen as a little b1tch car but damn is it fun, ditto for the Abarth. I'd even peg the Abarth as being MORE fun just because of how pissed off it seems to be all the time, it's just a huge laugh. There's always a lot to be said about the sublime driving experience you get out of a Porsche or a M car but driving a Miata or Abarth at full tilt down a highway at legal speed will put a much bigger smile on your face a lot more often if you're able to get over the badge on the hood. And you won't be losing a sh1t ton of money at the same time. I've always seen the S2000 as the less girly version of the Miata and I think it still holds true. It has a lot of the fun quirks of the Miata with 100hp more and a high revving unique powerplant to boot.







Eh, the new Miata is fun but I still like the S2000 more. Partly because of the extra power you get but mostly because the new Miata just doesn't feel as raw. There's a lot of fun to be had but not as much drama and excitement doing it. It's a great car but there just isn't as much raw vibration, noise, and character that the old car had.


I haven't actually driven the current Miata. I agree with your sentiments of the old Miata vs the s2000.

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Old 03-12-2017, 02:06 AM   #85
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Nope.

It'd be a tough call if I was in the market. I still think I'd go with a used S2K over a new Miata.

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My only gripe with the S2000 was that it felt like a civic until the VTEC (yo) kicked in. If you weren't revving the crap out of the car it was pretty slow.
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My only gripe with the S2000 was that it felt like a civic until the VTEC (yo) kicked in. If you weren't revving the crap out of the car it was pretty slow.
Honestly, it's most low power sports cars.....when beaten they are fun, when driven normally it feels like an econobox.
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The 124 Abarth might come with 180 hp for 2018. Anyone drive one before?

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If MX-5s came in a 200 hp trim, they'd be so much more popular. I really don't know why they never release a more powerful version. It's like a blind spot for them. Same thing happened with the BRZ/FRS.
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Old 03-12-2017, 12:09 PM   #91
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The 124 Abarth might come with 180 hp for 2018. Anyone drive one before?

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It's just SOOOOOOOO ugly...like horribly terrible.
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Old 03-12-2017, 12:33 PM   #92
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My only gripe with the S2000 was that it felt like a civic until the VTEC (yo) kicked in. If you weren't revving the crap out of the car it was pretty slow.
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Honestly, it's most low power sports cars.....when beaten they are fun, when driven normally it feels like an econobox.
Unless you rev the **** out of it you will get that feeling. It only really felt fun when you are driving on the canyon roads.
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If MX-5s came in a 200 hp trim, they'd be so much more popular. I really don't know why they never release a more powerful version. It's like a blind spot for them. Same thing happened with the BRZ/FRS.
Agreed. I checked out an MX-5 several months back. Loved everything except for the 155 hp part, especially for an area where it's mostly highways and suburbia.

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It's just SOOOOOOOO ugly...like horribly terrible.
The '18 looks a little less boy-racer, which is nice, but in general I don't mind the look. For me it's not the best, but not horrible either.

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Old 03-12-2017, 12:41 PM   #94
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My only gripe with the S2000 was that it felt like a civic until the VTEC (yo) kicked in. If you weren't revving the crap out of the car it was pretty slow.
That's part of the charm though, you have to work hard to make it perform. It's almost intentionally not easy to drive fast so it makes it more of a challenge. Everything is there to make it go fast except the driver and because of that you have to better yourself to make it do what you want it to do. It's not like a modem car where you hit the sport button and you're on your way, it makes you work and if you over step the limits, it spins out.
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From all the research I've done, the superperformance aluminum bodies are the best replicas you can get. The fiberglass ones are bleh.
Yes, would agree, but for an already built purchase to keep as a toy for a limited time, Backdraft is looking like the ticket. Somewhat less expensive than the SP yet still top tier and slightly more cockpit room with the chassis being 3" longer.

Though as best as i can tell, SP also uses fiberglass bodies.
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Old 03-12-2017, 03:34 PM   #96
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Yes, would agree, but for an already built purchase to keep as a toy for a limited time, Backdraft is looking like the ticket. Somewhat less expensive than the SP yet still top tier and slightly more cockpit room with the chassis being 3" longer.

Though as best as i can tell, SP also uses fiberglass bodies.
I will be very disappointed if they stopped making aluminum body cobras, and I will scrap my cobra idea and build up an original willys instead.
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Considering just about every cobra i've seen rolling down the street and drooled over at a car show was clad in a fiberglass or FRP body, i'll get past it.
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Old 03-13-2017, 01:13 AM   #98
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honestly there are better cars,

but honestly, every one of my friends who owns 911/m3/etc etc. all we talk about is my s2000....18k mikes on it, 2001.

"no 9k RPM, no care", mic drop.

Honda will never make any other car like it. it was a pet project for the F1 engineers when they left F1 in 99, and went back to it in 2006. its like picasso couldn't paint for 7 years, but was left with a pencil and chalk...
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Old 03-13-2017, 01:38 AM   #99
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General question for your S2K fanbois.

Is there more room in an S2k compared to a miata? because I drove a miata once, and i literally could not shift the goddamned thing because my knees had nowhere to go and would just bank the underside of the steering wheel. Obvs not made for taller people, but I always wondered if the S2K had more room.
I used to be a hardcore Honda fan, almost bought an EP1 about 4 years ago. I remember, the guy was asking 14k for it. Right now, the same car would probably be 22k. Anyhow, I am 6'3" and fit in it just fine..... I was able to shift, steer, my head didn't touch the roof either. The biggest issue for me was that, I felt as if I was wearing a motorcycle helmet. in other words, it almost felt as if, the windshield of the car was my helmet's visor.... if that makes sense.
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General question for your S2K fanbois.

Is there more room in an S2k compared to a miata? because I drove a miata once, and i literally could not shift the goddamned thing because my knees had nowhere to go and would just bank the underside of the steering wheel. Obvs not made for taller people, but I always wondered if the S2K had more room.
I've owned both an AP1 S2K and an NB2 Miata 5MT. For someone who is 5'10" I fit fine in the S2K and so did my taller 6' friend. The Miata on the other hand has a smaller cabin and will make you feel claustrophobic. I vividly remember having a hard time with feeling comfortable in the Miata for long periods of time in traffic so I would vote against that if you plan to make it your daily driver in heavy traffic. Head room was not an issue with the S2K but again the Miata being smaller had my hair brushing up against the cloth top. As for shifting the S2K has a lot of leg room down there and it goes deep so that is why it works well even for taller people or just people with ridiculously long legs. You will be fine but ultimately you need to sit in one yourself and test drive it.

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