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Old 05-03-2017, 09:53 AM   #41
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You've never been? Figured as a "local" you'd be there every third Friday.
Nope. I might be local, but I'm just a poor hillbilly so I don't think they'd let me in the parking lot, to say nothing of inside the restaurant itself.
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I would definitely skip a winery or two for dinner at the French Laundry (if you can get reservations.) It is worth it for sure IMHO, and not an experience you can get elsewhere.
Meh, I'm not enough of a foodie to appreciate stuff like that. Also, the wife will probably murder me for doing reservations that cost $300pp not including booze. She's not indian or jewish but she definitely is far more frugal than most.

Any other not ridiculously priced restaurants?

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Old 05-03-2017, 10:02 AM   #43
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Meh, I'm not enough of a foodie to appreciate stuff like that. Also, the wife will probably murder me for doing reservations that cost $300pp not including booze. She's not indian or jewish but she definitely is far more frugal than most.

Any other not ridiculously priced restaurants?
The area is full of really good restaurants. Usually when we go we like to be sort of spontaneous and pick one as we drive/walk around. Sometimes we get laughed out of the place because we didn't make reservations two months ago, doe.
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The area is full of really good restaurants. Usually when we go we like to be sort of spontaneous and pick one as we drive/walk around. Sometimes we get laughed out of the place because we didn't make reservations two months ago, doe.
That's kind of what I want to avoid...I'll do some google searching though.
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Old 05-03-2017, 10:38 AM   #45
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That's kind of what I want to avoid...I'll do some google searching though.
Yeah, it's definitely not for everyone. But that's just how we roll. We typically don't have any plans in mind when we head up there. We just enjoy being in the area and like to be spontaneous.

EDIT: It also helps that we can drive there and spend an afternoon as opposed to flying across the country to get there. If I were traveling somewhere farther away I'd be more organized.

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Chill dudes, wine is a matter of taste. What's gross to one is great to another.

Thanks all for the advice so far. 3-4 a day is probably where we'll stay at since any more than that is going to be stressful. Is there anything else to do/see/hike in the immediate area other than wineries? Must stop food places? Distilleries?
I was joking, Joseph Phelps is awesome.
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Old 05-03-2017, 11:16 AM   #47
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Def schedule a trip to Newton: http://www.newtonvineyard.com/

Beautiful property, amazing wines and the tasting comes with great small bites pairing.

Farmstead for lunch (best burger in the country): http://www.longmeadowranch.com/eat-drink/restaurant

Bottega Restaurant for dinner: https://www.botteganapavalley.com/

Day trip to Sonoma. Brunch at Sunflower café: http://www.sonomasunflower.com/

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Sam, just leave her home and save the trip money for tools.
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Gross that looks terrible. Not interested at all. Also Phelps make terrible wine, go to Kendall Jackson instead


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I was joking, Joseph Phelps is awesome.
A bottle of 1994 Phelps Insignia was the bottle that got me into wine. My wife and I were mountain biking and we stopped at my parents' house after for a burger. My dad was out of town and my mom told me to grab a bottle of wine for with dinner.

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Sam, just leave her home and save the trip money for tools.
At this point I need a new house to store more tools in. I have no idea where this damn thickness planer is even going to go at this point...

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A bottle of 1994 Phelps Insignia was the bottle that got me into wine. My wife and I were mountain biking and we stopped at my parents' house after for a burger. My dad was out of town and my mom told me to grab a bottle of wine for with dinner.

"Anything special I shouldn't open"
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hahaha that is awesome... ya you just cracked open a $500 bottle

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I don't know anything about wine so sorry if I'm slow with this stuff.
In that case I wouldn't exactly try places that have $50+ bottles, at least not all of them. Get to vineyards that are more reasonable and save one or two for real nice ones.

Only reason i'm saying this is if you are new to wine, you might not know yet what to appreciate in a way with wine that is up there in price. Its not about how good or bad a wine is, but you can easily find some really good bottles in a much more reasonable price range. You do want to take some wine with you, or order a case and have them ship it to you.

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hahaha that is awesome... ya you just cracked open a $500 bottle

with a burger
A client gave me a bottle of scarecrow (he saw my facebook pic of drinking Opus One with a straw out of the bottle) so I drank it over a casual dinner with the family, only to realize later that it was a $700 bottle. I have friends that are into the niche high end cabs like screaming eagle, and rare crap like that, I guess I never bothered checking how serious of a bottle that was. It was extremely tasty though.
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In that case I wouldn't exactly try places that have $50+ bottles, at least not all of them. Get to vineyards that are more reasonable and save one or two for real nice ones.

Only reason i'm saying this is if you are new to wine, you might not know yet what to appreciate in a way with wine that is up there in price. Its not about how good or bad a wine is, but you can easily find some really good bottles in a much more reasonable price range. You do want to take some wine with you, or order a case and have them ship it to you.

I totally get this and that was my plan. However, I do want to visit at least one high end place just to see what the hype is all about.
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i have a home in Sonoma COunty. I prefer to Napa.
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I forgot to suggest Harbin Hot Springs. http://harbin.org/, but

1. A little far away from Napa.
2. It done burned down in 2015.
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I just came back from Napa (2 weeks ago or so). We spent 4 days there. IDK your budget for wine and stuff but i'll share what we enjoyed:

Schramsberg was an amazing experience. Its sparkling, which isnt my favorite, but the caves and the winemaking process there are just really cool to see. 3.2 million bottles located in caves. You'll have to buy tickets for tasting ahead. They only do small groups, and they sell out quickly.

Cuvasion was a smaller winery, less crowded. Really enjoyed their wine, it was moderately priced. Actually joined their wine club there we like it that much.

Robert Mondavi had great reserve wines. Tasting was about $55 a person, some of their wines were the best i've ever had. The 2013 reserve cab is amazing, and im not that into wine.

Definitely skip Cole's Chop House. Spent $400 on dinner, and it kinda sucked... If you're accustom to high end steak houses, this one totally misses the mark (Del Friscos poops on this place, Butcher and Singer too)

Bounty Hunter BBQ is a must have for a simple dinner. The food there was excellent, and the prices were a great value.

Hope this helps, i'll answer any other questions you might have.


I enjoyed Sonoma so much more.

We ended up buying about 3-4 cases of wine, so bring your wallet.

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