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View Poll Results: RAV4 or CR-V or Cherokee?
2017 Toyota RAV4 Limited Hybrid 4 12.50%
2017 Honda CR-V Touring AWD 1.5L 11 34.38%
2017 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk L-Plus V6 6 18.75%
Go fvck yourself 11 34.38%
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Old 05-04-2017, 04:54 PM   #21
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Jeep has a new compass that looks like a baby grand Cherokee. Almost the same interior dimensions as the regular Cherokee
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Old 05-04-2017, 07:46 PM   #22
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We just got my mom the Renegade Limited loaded to the gills, she loved it, it was between that and the countryman....which was 12K more. The CRV is a phenomenal vehicle if you are ok with the 1.5L, but your mom will most likely find it plenty peppy. It will be more reliable than all of the others for sure. Interior trim is fantastic, seats feel like a 70K car, and the vehicle is brilliantly designed, which is why it has so much space inside (and the exterior is a result in part, function over form.) The Cherokee has the nicest trim of them all, is the most capable as well, but costs more. The RAV4 kind of sucks on everything in comparison, it's ugly, interior still looks bleh, etc. IF you can score a solid deal on the touring CRV, go give it a test drive. IT's a really nice vehicle. If you do go Jeep, I definitely wouldn't get a TrailHawk for your mom, the limited is where you want to be.
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Old 05-04-2017, 07:52 PM   #23
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Lol thanks, Sam! The key priorities for mom (and why I'm not getting an Accord or Camry) is because she has slight joint pain in her knees so she likes the raised seating positions in these crossovers, plus she needs something she can drive confidently through the deeper snows in Toronto (there were maybe 7-8 days where the 4Runner she's currently borrowing from me made her feel like a champ). I'm guessing the AWD capabilities of the CR-V are sufficient for that application, although I'm sure the Trailhawk could run circles around her. I just don't want her to be sliding all over the place when she's on the inclined offramp from the highway, making a sharp turn onto the often iced or heavily-snowed on street to get home. She lost control on that spot about 9 years ago and curbed her Jetta TDI which she loved--airbags deployed and car was written off. Ever since then she's been craving an SUV so hopefully the CR-V is enough, but that's my main reason to consider the Jeep.

Edit: just saw the new CR-V Touring on the street and it's absolutely beautiful!
CRV with snow tires is unstoppable. I've driven our old one through a lot of blizzards...it's the tires that matter honestly. Obviously the jeep on good snows will have zero issues as well. I will be shocked if the OP checks out all these cars, and ends up with the RAV4.
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My cousin lives in Montreal and i believe winter/snow tires are mandatory, SUV or not. I imagine Toronto would be similar.
I don't remember, is it a Canada thing, or a province of Quebec thing. I have a good friend in Laval (outside montreal) and indeed they mandate snowflake rated tires for their citizens, but if memory serves I think she said it was quebec province that did that, not Canada, but I could be mistaken. Oddly enough, they don't enforce that for visiting vehicles.
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My mom drives a Rav4, it's pretty nice. I'd avoid all honda products until they get rid of the "accident waiting to happen" touch screen fiasco. The Jeep looks like doo doo from the front.
Say wut? You mean the volume knob fiasco?
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The honda nav is full on touch screen with tiny little areas to interact with (volume, input, etc.). It completely takes your eyes off the road, and I've hate to have to trust a parent with it.

They actually listened, all the new Hondas have volume knobs!
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The new one actually has a volume knob. Also, no one uses those buttons on the regular. They use the steering wheel controls.

The worst offenders though are the Accord and Acura models with the stupid dual screen set up.
My wife's RDX has the dual screen, I have the navi map on the top and the functions on the bottom. It's actually pretty intuitive once you set it up allowing you to have all the relevant info without having to cycle screens. I still think Chrysler currently has the best infotainment on the market.
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RAV4 or CRV or Cherokee?

Thx NFR. Good advice. Mom hasn't seen the CR-V yet and so she already hated on the RAV4 Limited Hybrid interior. I'm expecting her to love the CR-V. The GM of our local dealer in Toronto is a close personal friend so I'm expecting to get a few bucks north of dealer pricing. And yeah, the Trailhawk trim was a selfish choice because I might take it for a spin from time to time lol. Lol at the diarrhea reference. I need to see it. I liked the full brown in the Porsche 911 though...

Also, winter tires not mandatory in Ontario. I believe it's only Quebec.
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If the CRV came with the 2.4 turbo motor that used to be in the old RDX, my wife would be driving one now. It is still a spectacular car, no doubt about it, and the interior is REALLY nice, I mean VW nice (touring model.) I also happen to think the new CRV is very good looking, aggressive and nicely sculpted.
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The Mazdas are nice, look great, but a bit stiff, and a bit more cramped. The CRV is definitely more usable, the mazda is more fun (seems to be irrelevant in this case.)
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Lol thanks, Sam! The key priorities for mom (and why I'm not getting an Accord or Camry) is because she has slight joint pain in her knees so she likes the raised seating positions in these crossovers, plus she needs something she can drive confidently through the deeper snows in Toronto (there were maybe 7-8 days where the 4Runner she's currently borrowing from me made her feel like a champ). I'm guessing the AWD capabilities of the CR-V are sufficient for that application, although I'm sure the Trailhawk could run circles around her. I just don't want her to be sliding all over the place when she's on the inclined offramp from the highway, making a sharp turn onto the often iced or heavily-snowed on street to get home. She lost control on that spot about 9 years ago and curbed her Jetta TDI which she loved--airbags deployed and car was written off. Ever since then she's been craving an SUV so hopefully the CR-V is enough, but that's my main reason to consider the Jeep.

Edit: just saw the new CR-V Touring on the street and it's absolutely beautiful!
That's more a of a tire issue than anything then isn't it. She needs winter tires.
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That's more a of a tire issue than anything then isn't it. She needs winter tires.
No, because she's felt her Civic lose traction in the snow over the last 7 years with winter tires. She felt safer in my 4Runner this past winter with NO winter tires (it's running all seasons). So, an AWD mini-SUV with snows should be golden.
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34 replies and no mention of the S2k nor the Wrangler. What's wrong with you people?
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34 replies and no mention of the S2k nor the Wrangler. What's wrong with you people?

Post#11.

You blind, bruh??
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No, because she's felt her Civic lose traction in the snow over the last 7 years with winter tires. She felt safer in my 4Runner this past winter with NO winter tires (it's running all seasons). So, an AWD mini-SUV with snows should be golden.
AWD doesn't help you stop or steer. What tires did she have on that Civic?
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She's had Michelin X-Ice.

That's only for ice not snow, bruh.
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