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Old 08-18-2013, 11:33 PM   #41
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So tell more about what is in the health care bill.
Read it yourself, it has been available for years:

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-1...1hr3590enr.pdf

http://housedocs.house.gov/energycommerce/ppacacon.pdf

For as much interest as you attempt to show in it you should probably read it yourself. Stop allowing some slanted "news" publication tell you how to think about it.

Fvckin idiots. All arguing about it without even knowing the specifics.

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Old 08-18-2013, 11:34 PM   #42
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What came first, the chicken or the egg?
Your regurgitation of biased news came before your reading ability.
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Old 08-18-2013, 11:52 PM   #43
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Read it yourself, it has been available for years:

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-1...1hr3590enr.pdf

http://housedocs.house.gov/energycommerce/ppacacon.pdf

For as much interest as you attempt to show in it you should probably read it yourself. Stop allowing some slanted "news" publication tell you how to think about it.

Fvckin idiots. All arguing about it without even knowing the specifics.
You obviously did not read the thread...

I stated I read bit and pieces of it, and when I get the time, I will read it this week. Downloaded the PDF earlier today. Thanks for reiterating what was already stated.

So tell me fly guy, what all is in it or at least why you support it? I want examples from the bill.
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Old 08-18-2013, 11:54 PM   #44
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Your regurgitation of biased news came before your reading ability.
Cool. Next time read the thread before you comment.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:03 AM   #45
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Cool. Next time read the thread before you comment.
I read upto this point:

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Less than 3 percent of U.S. federal workers want to give up their current health plans and join Obamacare, according to a new poll.
And I realized you posted another stupid biased and ill researched article without forming an opinion--standard BF08 practice. You and most of the people on this forum don't know **** about what is going on except what your poor excuse for "quality news" feeds you. Therefore I provided links to the actual text of the ACA. Study up, learn something, then argue.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:06 AM   #46
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I read upto this point:



And I realized you posted another stupid biased and ill researched article without forming an opinion--standard BF08 practice. You and most of the people on this forum don't know **** about what is going on except what your poor excuse for "quality news" feeds you. Therefore I provided links to the actual text of the ACA. Study up, learn something, then argue.
I asked a specific question, and no one, including you can answer it. I suggest you self-prescribe your own advice. I'm not the one in support of the bill (yet), and although I will read it, I expect you and others to support your stance. So, why do you support it and more importantly, can you link examples from the bill to your response? So that when I read it I can reference them and see if you are factual or just blowing smoke?
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I asked a specific question, and no one, including you can answer it. I suggest you self-prescribe your own advice. I'm not the one in support of the bill (yet), and although I will read it, I expect you and others to support your stance. So, why do you support it and more importantly, can you link examples from the bill to your response, so that when I read it I can reference them and draw my own opinion?
Obviously your reading comprehension sucks. Do you engineer legos? I have yet to announce a stance. I addressed the constant ignorance that surrounds the issue. And that other **** you listed. F that. I have better stuff to do with my time. You quickly moved yourself into the same category as Chase and NFRS. I devote roughly 30 seconds to reading and responding to your posts. And for this post....your time is up.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:27 AM   #48
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Obviously your reading comprehension sucks. Do you engineer legos? I have yet to announce a stance. I addressed the constant ignorance that surrounds the issue. And that other **** you listed. F that. I have better stuff to do with my time. You quickly moved yourself into the same category as Chase and NFRS. I devote roughly 30 seconds to reading and responding to your posts. And for this post....your time is up.


In what way would you want me to engineer legos? In the form of a plane, a boat, a bridge? Be more specific. I need details. Schematics and some formulations might help the case.

I have thoroughly enjoyed your insightful posts good sir. Can you leave me with another 30 second post?

So you choose to dismiss a very important law, and don't care how it might affect you? I would have expected you of all people to know that bill start to finish.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:34 AM   #49
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There's no issue with the original article and poll. They honestly reported it as less than 3% of about 2500 responding readers wanted to switch to the new system.

Daily caller somehow extrapolated this to reflect all federal employees.


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Saw this as well. Had originally clicked the link to the original article and poll, but somehow managed to post the other one by mistake. Perhaps Daily Caller is biased or just left out critical info?
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Old 08-19-2013, 06:11 AM   #51
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Poll: Less than 3 percent of 2500 federal workers want to join Obamacare

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This place can definitely rustle some jimmies.
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I haven't seen a list of negative effects (none that I believe, anyway). I'm willing to give it a chance. I like the extended care for children, the pre existing condition clause, and the provision that will prevent insurance companies from dropping policy holders after they get sick.

It might not be a perfect program, but it's a good start.
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I haven't seen a list of negative effects (none that I believe, anyway). I'm willing to give it a chance. I like the extended care for children, the pre existing condition clause, and the provision that will prevent insurance companies from dropping policy holders after they get sick.

It might not be a perfect program, but it's a good start.
You're older. You won't have to live with the implications for long if it turns out to be a flop.
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In what way would you want me to engineer legos? In the form of a plane, a boat, a bridge? Be more specific. I need details. Schematics and some formulations might help the case.

I have thoroughly enjoyed your insightful posts good sir. Can you leave me with another 30 second post?

So you choose to dismiss a very important law, and don't care how it might affect you? I would have expected you of all people to know that bill start to finish.
Again the reading issue. I didnt ask you to build me anything. I asked if you engineer legos. Based on your lack of reading ability I doubt your ability at processing and understanding lego schematics.

Second, you are the one dismissing things. The text of this law has been available for years. Dont assume I dont what the f is going on because you dont It simply is....your 30 seconds are up.

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Again the reading issue. I didnt ask you to build me anything. I asked if you engineer legos. Based on your lack of reading ability I doubt your ability at processing and understanding lego schematics.

Second, you are the one dismissing things. The text of this law has been available for years. Dont assume I dont what the f is going on because you dont It simply is....your 30 seconds are up.
The context in which you asked the question "do you engineer Legos" could imply the engineering of the material and the parts themselves or the application of those finished parts into something useful.

So then why can't you enlighten myself and others? Either you have read the bill or you haven't. Which is it?

FYI why should I need to read something entirely that I don't yet support when I have others who should be able to provide summaries? Does an engineer go to his CEO and tell him/her all the technical details of a project? No. The engineer highlights some key points. Points out costs and pricing. Does a little song and dance and leaves the CEO with all of the project's information and the discretion to form an interpretation. I'm asking the questions here guy. Pipe down and get reading the bill yourself. I'll be a bit more generous...your 31 seconds are up. Shall we go another round?
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The context in which you asked the question "do you engineer Legos" could imply the engineering of the material and the parts themselves or the application of those finished parts into something useful.

So then why can't you enlighten myself and others? Either you have read the bill or you haven't. Which is it?

FYI why should I need to read something entirely that I don't yet support when I have others who should be able to provide summaries? Does an engineer go to his CEO and tell him/her all the technical details of a project? No. The engineer highlights some key points. Points out costs and pricing. Does a little song and dance and leaves the CEO with all of the project's information and the discretion to form an interpretation. I'm asking the questions here guy. Pipe down and get reading the bill yourself. I'll be a bit more generous...your 31 seconds are up. Shall we go another round?
Certainly the CEO gets a summary. I dont think he gets it from the bums on the street. And that is your source. A bunch of bums on the street. Nice try though kid. Keep sharing your deep insights to business from your entry level position.
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Certainly the CEO gets a summary. I dont think he gets it from the bums on the street. And that is your source. A bunch of bums on the street. Nice try though kid. Keep sharing your deep insights to business from your entry level position.
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I haven't seen a list of negative effects (none that I believe, anyway). I'm willing to give it a chance. I like the extended care for children, the pre existing condition clause, and the provision that will prevent insurance companies from dropping policy holders after they get sick.

It might not be a perfect program, but it's a good start.
Question, what would happen to automobile insurance companies if the government told them that they did not have a right to drop bad drivers? BTW, I don't disagree that the above things are GOOD things. My question to you is at what price do they come (logically?)
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Certainly the CEO gets a summary. I dont think he gets it from the bums on the street. And that is your source. A bunch of bums on the street. Nice try though kid. Keep sharing your deep insights to business from your entry level position.
Actually read the article in the OP and then form an opinion. Until then your responses carry no meaning. I've placed the original poll and numbers in the OP to save you the hassle.
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