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Old 08-18-2013, 09:51 PM   #21
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According to internet, people who love dogs usually hate their own species. No wonder Hitler loved his dogs so much.
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Old 08-18-2013, 10:09 PM   #22
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Man, Dog Struck by Bus While Playing Fetch

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Old 08-18-2013, 11:08 PM   #23
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I love my dog but I would save a strangers life first. Whether that person goes on to benefit humanity or not. You beeches got your priorities all wrong.
what if the person you save ends up killing someone else later in life?
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what if the person you save ends up killing someone else later in life?
Who cares? What you do towards other people is more important NOW than what other people gonna do in the future.

What if your dog will end up killing a toddler later in life? It's always what-if situation that nobody can predict. We as a human always look at it in positive ways. If you always look at it in negative ways, you will live your life thinking people will end up killing each other, thinking that everybody is a criminal and you'd think why you don't end them up first, right? I bet most school shooter thought that way.

It's getting dangerous what people in the internet reveal, as time goes by, more and more people grow up to hate their own kind, and if it goes unchecked, one of you will end up killing someone because of built-up hatred.
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Who cares? What you do towards other people is more important NOW than what other people gonna do in the future.

What if your dog will end up killing a toddler later in life? It's always what-if situation that nobody can predict. We as a human always look at it in positive ways. If you always look at it in negative ways, you will live your life thinking people will end up killing each other, thinking that everybody is a criminal and you'd think why you don't end them up first, right? I bet most school shooter thought that way.

It's getting dangerous what people in the internet reveal, as time goes by, more and more people grow up to hate their own kind, and if it goes unchecked, one of you will end up killing someone because of built-up hatred.
i think human hatred has been in existence throughout history. nothing has really changed, nor has it gotten necessarily better or worse. humans are first and foremost egocentric, and secondly ethnocentric and nothing will ever change that. the only thing that keeps the majority of humans from acting out on their hatred of other humans by murdering them is from fear of god, fear of the law, and/or fear of karma.
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Old 08-19-2013, 06:39 AM   #27
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i think human hatred has been in existence throughout history. nothing has really changed, nor has it gotten necessarily better or worse. humans are first and foremost egocentric, and secondly ethnocentric and nothing will ever change that. the only thing that keeps the majority of humans from acting out on their hatred of other humans by murdering them is from fear of god, fear of the law, and/or fear of karma.
Hatred always exist, criminal always exist, bad situation always exist, but why do you wanna put yourself in that situation? Just look at this thread, even in this very small community, we can see people generally disregard their own as if they want them dead.

Even in animal world, the dogs, not all dogs are friendly to human, certain breed can be very dangerous to human and to other dogs as well.

Once you start getting your priorities wrong, don't blame on humanity when you are in trouble and people would rather help wounded dogs than you or your parents would rather spend money on their dogs than you or your girlfriend/wife prioritize her dogs than you.

When you realize you are the victim, you probably wanna change. You wont feel it now because you always think you'll never be the victim of the unfortunate.
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Old 08-19-2013, 09:41 AM   #28
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i think human hatred has been in existence throughout history. nothing has really changed, nor has it gotten necessarily better or worse. humans are first and foremost egocentric, and secondly ethnocentric and nothing will ever change that. the only thing that keeps the majority of humans from acting out on their hatred of other humans by murdering them is from fear of god, fear of the law, and/or fear of karma.
I agree with the statement that human emotions are pretty much the same as they've always been.

But long before humans invented deities or laws or concepts of mystical retribution, human beings had a powerful competitive advantage over other species in our tendency to help each other. Our drive to collaborate, combined with our empathy and communicative skills are hugely responsible for our success as a species.

There have always been, and likely always will be, humans that dont fully buy into the social structure of society, wherever it derives it's authority. But I think if that constituted the majority of humans, we wouldn't be here today.
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:22 AM   #29
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+1, I love my dogs but no way I would save him over a real person. That real person is someone's son, daughter, wife, gf, etc.
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+1, I love my dogs but no way I would save him over a real person. That real person is someone's son, daughter, wife, gf, etc.
dafuq is wrong with some people. I love my dog too, but if it's between it dying or a a person, I'd save the human. Dog dies, I'll just buy a new one. Can't really replace a human life.
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I don't care if I'm selfish, if I wasn't I would donate my time and money to helping the poor and not drive a BMW I'd have a car worth 500 bux that barely starts but gets me from A to B. we're all a little selfish
I don't think you're selfish, just stupid. It's a dog - food for people in some parts of the world. Only in America do people value food over another person's life. Idiots.
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My wife said person and got mad at me because I said dog, really thinking about it though I would prob save a person
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I'd be curious to know how often this kind of either/or choice is actually necessary. Even in the sailing case the article references, it was just a matter of who got saved first--not whether one of them was left to die.
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Re: Which would you save from a bus collision? Your dog or a foreign tourist ?

If it was me in that situation I hope someone would save my life over a dog's

I would help a human
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everyone that said "dog", including myself, said so because we obviously have very strong emotional ties to a dog(s). When asked a hypothetical question, we answer based on that emotional connection. When put in the real situation, I'm sure every one of use would help the people.

Fact is most of us will never really know what we will do because from a numbers perspective, very few people are put in a situation where we have to make decisions like that. For all we know, we could see the bus crash, people get mangled, and we'd just freeze, or run, all while there were people that could be saved before the fire consumed them.

and Motorwerks - cool your jets. Clearly you are just pissed because you have some sort of cat hangup
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Once you start getting your priorities wrong, don't blame on humanity when you are in trouble and people would rather help wounded dogs than you or your parents would rather spend money on their dogs than you or your girlfriend/wife prioritize her dogs than you.
i would honestly never expect, demand, or wish for assistance from another human being regardless of how dire a situation i am in. each human being has the right to make whatever decisions he/she chooses, and if i end up dying because humanity chooses to not assist me, then so be it. i do not have the naive notion that just because i choose to have a positive outlook or attitude towards humanity that humanity will reciprocate. with that said, if i was in a situation where i was to choose between saving my dog or a fellow stranger, i would most likely choose to save a fellow stranger, but if the next person chooses to save his/her dog instead, i am okay with that, because that person has the right to make his/her own personal decision. furthermore, just because i saved a fellow human being, if i end up being in a reversed situation in the future, i would not expect someone else to choose to save me, nor will i harbor any ill feelings when no one chooses to save me.

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I agree with the statement that human emotions are pretty much the same as they've always been.

But long before humans invented deities or laws or concepts of mystical retribution, human beings had a powerful competitive advantage over other species in our tendency to help each other. Our drive to collaborate, combined with our empathy and communicative skills are hugely responsible for our success as a species.

There have always been, and likely always will be, humans that dont fully buy into the social structure of society, wherever it derives it's authority. But I think if that constituted the majority of humans, we wouldn't be here today.
historically, humans collaborate as a means to bettering their survival. humans are driven by the concept of survival of the fittest just like any other species on this planet. humans form communities or packs much like other animals do to help ward off dangers from without. but just like with any other species, situations will always arrive where members within a pack will have to compete for individual survival.
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what if the person you saved turned out to be a psychopath that went on to shoot up a school or other public place? Ya i'll go with my dog......who at most will take a dump on my neighbors lawn.....who probably deserves it anyways
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