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Old 08-21-2013, 07:39 AM   #21
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It's a smart move. The debates hosted by liberal moderators were, as Newt pointed out several times, nothing but an attempt to pit the candidates against one another and make them ALL look bad.
Clearly, as adults poised to take on th most powerful office in the world, they were above that. Oh, wait! They weren't.

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Have the debates moderated by someone looking to point out and highlight platform differences.
As opposed to?

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As for Candy, that fat f*ck
What makes her a fat f*ck that would not make you a skinny f*ck?

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undoubtably turned the tide of the campaign and ruined a swell of momentum Romney had built up over the month prior (largely following the first debate in which he rocked Obama).
Undoubtably, everything can be blamed on Candy.

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Worst of it all, after Crowley's little lie, Obama gloated like a b@tch.
Obama did say "No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for."

Poor Candy, though. Both guys talked over her and she did very poorly moderating that debate. But yeah, blame it on her.

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What makes her a fat f*ck that would not make you a skinny f*ck?


What better way to cope with ones own weight insecurities by persecuting those who differ from them. You know who else persecuted people because of their own insecurities? Hitler.

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What better way to cope with ones own weight insecurities by persecuting those who differ from them. You know who else persecuted people because of their own insecurities? Hitler.

Just sayin'.
This is why the far right can never win anything at the national level. The spend all their time demonizing and insulting and electorate that is becoming more diverse; and their only strategy is to control the state and bring back states rights.
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As for Candy, that fat f*ck undoubtably turned the tide of the campaign and ruined a swell of momentum Romney had built up over the month prior (largely following the first debate in which he rocked Obama).
All it took was one fat fvck to derail Romney's campaign?

She needs to change her name to Rove.
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All it took was one fat fvck to derail Romney's campaign?

She needs to change her name to Rove.
Has anyone ever seen Rove and Crowley together at the same time? I'm just sayin'...
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This is why the far right can never win anything at the national level. The spend all their time demonizing and insulting and electorate that is becoming more diverse; and their only strategy is to control the state and bring back states rights.
GTFO. Obama's entire campaign strategy in 2008 was "blame Bush". His strategy for 2012 was "attack Romney". What positive spin existed in Obama's campaign? Obamacare? Nope. Stimulus? Nope. The only positive note he went with was Osama Bin Laden which, oh by the way, had no impact on slowing or reversing the rising trend in terrorism.

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This is why the far right can never win anything at the national level. The spend all their time demonizing and insulting and electorate that is becoming more diverse; and their only strategy is to control the state and bring back states rights.
Define "far right".
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An advocate for gay rights, environmentalism, and legal-abortions is considered "far right"?
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Please elaborate on those three!
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Please elaborate on those three!
Why? And why do you waste time caring so much? Find something better to do brother.
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Why? And why do you waste time caring so much? Find something better to do brother.
Brother? OK, Hulkster?

I'm curious. You support gay rights? But not "marriage", right?
Environmentalism? But not the EPA, right?
Abortions? Legal ones? What is that? If they're made illegal, you won't support them?

What's next? You'll be for minority rights? Minority rights to pull themselves up by their bootstraps?



EDIT: I love it that you post something and then tell people not to "care so much" about what you posted.
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An advocate for gay rights, environmentalism, and legal-abortions is considered "far right"?
My memory might be off, but.....

1. Aren't you a gay rights advocate in so much as they can get civil union'd but not "married" in the eyes of the state? Separate but equal type of stuff? I recall you saying something to the tune of limiting religious rights (specifically Christianity) if the state allowed gay marriages even at the state level.

2. I'm not sure I've seen you comment on environmentalism outside of being against global warming.

3. Legal abortions on your terms, though. Legal abortions with cut off dates, needing to have a reason, not state funded, forced invasive procedures, etc.

Again, if my memory is off and these don't reflect your views, I apologize. With that said, even if they do that's far more moderate than most of the far right on those issues.
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My memory might be off, but.....

1. Aren't you a gay rights advocate in so much as they can get civil union'd but not "married" in the eyes of the state? Separate but equal type of stuff? I recall you saying something to the tune of limiting religious rights (specifically Christianity) if the state allowed gay marriages even at the state level.

2. I'm not sure I've seen you comment on environmentalism outside of being against global warming.

3. Legal abortions on your terms, though. Legal abortions with cut off dates, needing to have a reason, not state funded, forced invasive procedures, etc.

Again, if my memory is off and these don't reflect your views, I apologize. With that said, even if they do that's far more moderate than most of the far right on those issues.
That's more or less accurate.

1. Civil rights and common rights under the law. Why infringe upon marriage as a term is beyond me. Men and women are equal though defined differently. I don't get why gays get their panties in a bunch over the term marriage. It's rooted in religion and is a worthless war to wage.

2. Against finning, commercial long line fishing, deforestation, and the destruction of our eco-system. I simply can't side with the expansion of the EPA, continued infringement upon US companies with no regard to their international competitive capabilities, and regulations over what you and I do in our homes. Why some are fine cheering "let me do anything behind closed doors" regarding bedroom antics while welcoming government intrusion into what washing machine they use is beyond me... it's just a result of poorly pieced together political views. IF nations will come together and favor global minimum requirements around pollution, by all means. But don't spite our economy in the name of polar bears while developing nations (china and india) destroy the environment at levels we can't even imagine.

3. Late term abortion is absolutely out of bounds and violates basic human life. There is no justification for it regardless of the father. If there is a medical issue in which the life of the mother is endangered, ok fine.. but to decide last minute to pull the plug on a baby that can live out of the womb, that's just malicious and evil. Other than that, as long as they're being performed with private sector funding and I'm not forcing others to pay for it, abort away.

The above are far more moderate than the "far right"... and the fact that I'm being labeled as such by the others is nothing other than an attempt to minimize (via ridicule) those views. It's truly sad.

Thank you for your reasonable evaluation Evolved. You've always been more level headed and, in turn, more interesting to discuss/debate
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1. Civil rights and common rights under the law. Why infringe upon marriage as a term is beyond me. Men and women are equal though defined differently. I don't get why gays get their panties in a bunch over the term marriage. It's rooted in religion and is a worthless war to wage.
Infringe. Synonyms: violate - transgress - break - contravene - trespass

How does allowing gays to get "married" violate, transgress, break, contravene or trespass "marriage"?

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