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Old 08-26-2013, 02:59 PM   #1
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A question about a "poke stance"

I'm In desperate need of a new set of tires. That damn camber chews mine up!

I have a 2002 e46 sedan currently riding on rs2s
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18x10 et 45 w/ Dunlop direzza dz101
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I have spacers front and rear, maybe 10 or 15mm rear(it's tiny) and probably 25mm front. I can get more precise measurements this evening.

Both the front and rear fenders are rolled and flared and the fronts are pulled slightly.

I have roughly 3.5 degrees of camber rear and 1.75 degrees front.

I also have vmaxx coilovers.

My car now is flush. The fenders and lips match well but I want the more aggressive "poke stance".

If I get get a new set of dunlops how could i achieve this? I want to minimize camber and would have to raise my car which I'm fine with. Could I simply just raise my car and put wider tires on?
Or is there a not correct
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Old 08-26-2013, 04:24 PM   #2
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A question about a "poke stance"

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Old 08-27-2013, 07:52 PM   #3
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Old 08-27-2013, 07:59 PM   #4
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A question about a "poke stance"

I'm going to buy new tires tomorrow. I could get a brand new set of my dunlops in my normal 225/255 size for $450. Except they ran out of the 255s.

So I looked into getting the same sized in hankook ventus v12s. They were about $575 for a set.

I did notice however that the hankook v12s have a smaller thread width then the dunlops, 9.1" vs 8.7" for a 255, but the hankook 265s have a 9.1" thread. Could I fit those?
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:13 PM   #5
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If you want more poke, you have to do the opposite of what you are talking about. You need thicker spacers and more stretch on the tires. Something like, 215 on the fronts, 225 on the back. When you push the wheels out (poke), you need your side walls to stretch (angle away from the edge of the lip) so you get clearance to the fenders. Even if you raised your car, if your tires stick out back your fenders, you will more than likely rub, and worse, might end up smashing your fenders.
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:53 PM   #6
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If you want more poke, you have to do the opposite of what you are talking about. You need thicker spacers and more stretch on the tires. Something like, 215 on the fronts, 225 on the back. When you push the wheels out (poke), you need your side walls to stretch (angle away from the edge of the lip) so you get clearance to the fenders. Even if you raised your car, if your tires stick out back your fenders, you will more than likely rub, and worse, might end up smashing your fenders.
Really? We'll that shows my ignorance. I don't want to put stretched tires, only alittle bit of poke.but thanks for explaining that. So about my Dunlop vs hankook scenario, do you think I could squeeze on 265 hankooks?
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Those 265's will fit on the rims, but they might be wider compared to your current wheels and cause some rubbing.
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A question about a "poke stance"

How much toe are you running? That might be eating up your tires more than the camber


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Old 08-28-2013, 09:52 AM   #9
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10" wheel with 10mm spacer might be cutting it to close. As far as tire ware, ACross is right on here. When you start maxing out camber like that other areas can be affected. Kill some of that camber, go to a 5mm spacer and get a proper alignment. Just my opinion. Nice car btw
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Those 265's will fit on the rims, but they might be wider compared to your current wheels and cause some rubbing.
that is what im am afraid of, i dont want to risk getting the wrong tires for 1 cm more of width


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How much toe are you running? That might be eating up your tires more than the camber.
i honestly dont know my toe. i have tried counless times at all my local tire places and they all say "oh we can do a bmw" or "your car is too low". i guess bmws use sand bags to simulate the drivers weight which none of my local shops can comprehend. by the naked eye, i dont have much toe, but that is probably the worst estimate possible.


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10" wheel with 10mm spacer might be cutting it to close. As far as tire ware, ACross is right on here. When you start maxing out camber like that other areas can be affected. Kill some of that camber, go to a 5mm spacer and get a proper alignment. Just my opinion. Nice car btw.
thanks for the advice. i will definetly do that
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Old 08-28-2013, 01:35 PM   #12
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she's beautiful!
Thanks man! I really want to get some ccws. But at the same time I'm trying to save for a z4m coupe
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How much toe are you running? That might be eating up your tires more than the camber


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I'm willing to bet that the wear you're experiencing is more toe than camber!
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I'm willing to bet that the wear you're experiencing is more toe than camber!
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This just happened tonite. Luckily the hankooks I just bought are in my garage ready to go on
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Thanks man! I really want to get some ccws. But at the same time I'm trying to save for a z4m coupe
oh those are very nice too but im only a fan of the newer ones. I hated the older ones the one that's out now is styled much better in my opinion.lol more aggressive looking, goes very well with some stance. I see the z4's on stance nation all the time
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