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Old 09-02-2013, 10:25 PM   #21
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Seriously, this is getting crazy. At this rate I don't even understand why people leave the house if they are so afraid of everything. They can't live in a bubble, no matter how hard they try.

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Old 09-02-2013, 10:29 PM   #22
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Is there more info. How young are we talking. I'm a huge fan of martial arts and fight sports, but I think that there should be a limit as to how young we allow these kids to be when they step in the ring or cage. They can train all they want, but allowing them to knock each other out is another thing altogether, and if you think that that will turn kids into pussies, then you've never been in a boxing ring.
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And in other news: no regulation was proposed to protect the millions of children at risk for permanent brain injury from playing soccer and football and suffering recurring head trauma.


I grew up playing soccer. I played in D1 club outdoor and indoor. I will be the first to say it's a physical sport... but short of running head first into a goal post... head injuries were never an issue.

Coming from someone who has a head injury...
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Old 09-03-2013, 08:41 AM   #27
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Is there more info. How young are we talking. I'm a huge fan of martial arts and fight sports, but I think that there should be a limit as to how young we allow these kids to be when they step in the ring or cage. They can train all they want, but allowing them to knock each other out is another thing altogether, and if you think that that will turn kids into pussies, then you've never been in a boxing ring.
I started wrestling at a pretty young age (3rd grade) and never saw any issues that warranted a statewide ban
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I started wrestling at a pretty young age (3rd grade) and never saw any issues that warranted a statewide ban
I think wrestling is different from getting punched and kicked in the head like one would do in a boxing or kickboxing match. It's very different from ground and pound as you might see in MMA.

I've seen little (pre-teen) kids knock each other down (not quite "out") even with amateur sparring gear. Headgear doesn't protect against much more than superficial cuts. I hate to think what effect repeated strikes might have on a young, developing brain.

I'm all for training the kids in martial arts, though. Teach them everything, including boxing, kicking, jiu-jitsu and any combination thereof. Just don't make them compete in events where head strikes are allowed.

I don't know what age I would limit it to. I guess that would depend on neurologist/neuroscience research.
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I don't see anything wrong with her statement:
"To my eyes, there is clearly a great deal of contact happening," Bonilla, chairwoman of the committee that oversees the athletic commission, said of the video that was sent to her. "I certainly felt that there seemed to be risk factors there for the children participating and that through some standardized regulations we could ensure the safest environment possible."
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Andy Foster, executive director of the state athletic commission and a former martial arts competitor, said in an interview that the commission is not seeking to shut down the sport. Instead, commissioners are mulling whether there should be some minimal requirements, such as insurance, physicals for competitors and having a doctor on site, he said.
"This is not mixed martial arts, but it is mixed martial arts' little cousin," Foster said. "It's probably not appropriate for a 5-year-old to be doing it."
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Parents and coaches say the sport has been misunderstood. They say national and international groups regulating the sport privately have set stringent rules that prohibit blows to the head and already require event organizers to have insurance coverage and doctors to be on hand.

"Martial arts saved me and saved other kids for a bunch of reasons," Frank said. "It takes the aggressive kids and tones them down, and it takes the shy ones and brings them up."
This doesn't seem to be a crazy attempt to wrap a playground in bubble wrap:
Bonilla says her bill allows for coaches and organizers to raise any concerns with the athletic commission as it establishes regulations.
That's sounds right to me. I see no issues with any of this as long as all sides work together.


Would you want your child to fight in a poorly organized event that doesn't even have insurance or a doctor on site?
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I grew up playing soccer. I played in D1 club outdoor and indoor. I will be the first to say it's a physical sport... but short of running head first into a goal post... head injuries were never an issue.

Coming from someone who has a head injury...
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Seriously, though--we're just now starting to see/acknowledge the long-term effects of football. I will be curious to see how things shake out with soccer over the next couple of decades.
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