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The BMW E46 ///M3 is the M version E46 and puts out an amazing 333 HP and 262 lb-ft of torque at stock specs! There are an amazing amount of modifications for both the coupe and convertible models so read up and get started modifying your cars today!

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Old 09-22-2013, 11:54 PM   #1
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Hey guys Im new here, so a little back story. I have owned 2 b5 S4s. Not a Audi nut or anything but I just always loved those cars. My First was a brilliant black S4 which was totaled by a hit and run. Then I purchased a perfect Widebody Nogaro Blue S4. I had it at stage two for a while now, 21 PSI, very healthy car. Put down 295whp and 338wtq. It was a blast to drive. Needless to say I enjoyed the car a lot while I had it, even put a few car length on a couple of e46 m3s from a roll. Anyway, on my way home from work on September 1st I was hit buy a drunk driver which resulted in my s4 totalled. So now Im thinking about moving on from my B5s and getting into an M3. I've always loved the way these cars look. Only a few cars have the presences of an M3 on the road. I had some cash saved up for my S4 as I was planing on going Stage 3 before december. So I'm thinking of just adding my insurance check to my cash and getting a M3. Im not familiar with all the bells and whistles on m3 or what to look out for when getting a used one. I found an Imola Red 6speed local dealer ship with 105k miles. They have it up for $18999, which Im sure is too high. What advice can you guys give me? And how much would you be willing to way for said M3?
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Old 09-23-2013, 12:31 AM   #2
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Before buying any m3 do a PPI and check subframe. And for that milage the car is priced high. You can check in the classified section complete cars to get an idea of a price for a full maintained m3 Goodluck!
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Old 09-23-2013, 12:38 AM   #3
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Before buying any m3 do a PPI and check subframe. And for that milage the car is priced high. You can check in the classified section complete cars to get an idea of a price for a full maintained m3 Goodluck!
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Thanks for the heads up. The subframe issuer seems to be wide spread? Seems like its only a matter of time or am I wrong? Vanos failure also seem common.
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Old 09-23-2013, 12:43 AM   #4
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Yes they are both common. Subframe is known more in coupes then verts. To know about vanos search you can find a lot of helpfull information about it

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Isn't the s4 340 hp stock?


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Old 09-23-2013, 01:08 AM   #6
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That was the later B6 models with V8. I had the twin turbo v6.
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Old 09-23-2013, 09:26 AM   #7
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What year is it? I wouldn't worry about high mileage on the M3 if it's been taken care of and the PPI checks out. That said, it's usually better to find one from a private party so you get an idea how they cared for it. If the dealership has done a complete tune up and warranties their work than it can also be fine. At that mileage it should have a full inspection 2 which most importantly include the valve adjustment these cars need every 25k or so. It runs $800-1200 if you have to pay yourself.

That price does seem high but depends on the year. I think my 2002 was a good deal at $11k with 124k miles. Check out this maintenance thread that should help on what these cars need:

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=190111


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Old 09-23-2013, 11:10 AM   #8
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Im sure I can get the price down I have cash, But those Subframe and Vanos issues kinda got me worried lol. Only Thing I had to worry about on my B5 was the turbos blowing haha.
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:15 AM   #9
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Nvm Just looked up how to replace the Vanos unit. That thing is easier to replace then an alternator on the S4. Now just the Subframe is a little worrisome.
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:21 AM   #10
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It's an easy thing to check for by looking under the trunk carpet at the metal and under the rear of the car. The issues were only a problem in 2001 and some 2002, even 3 series non M cars. But most cars never had the problems and it depends on how much the car has been abused and thrown around. My 2002 is completely fine. Do you plan on tracking the car? If not and the car doesn't show any subframe cracking you're fine.


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Main thing is subframe. It's not as bad as everyone says. But if you find one that's cracked it'll get costly.
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It's an easy thing to check for by looking under the trunk carpet at the metal and under the rear of the car. The issues were only a problem in 2001 and some 2002, even 3 series non M cars. But most cars never had the problems and it depends on how much the car has been abused and thrown around. My 2002 is completely fine. Do you plan on tracking the car? If not and the car doesn't show any subframe cracking you're fine.


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No I won't be tracking the car. Just looking for a semi reliable Daily driver. But I'll make sure to get under the car and check.

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Main thing is subframe. It's not as bad as everyone says. But if you find one that's cracked it'll get costly.
How costly? Ive been looking around and looks like if its just hairline cracks then maybe $1500? That sound about right?
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