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Old 09-24-2013, 09:30 PM   #21
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How Often Do You Change Your Power Steering Fluid

I change mine every time my system leaks. So once ever. Lol.
The fluid was red though and not dirty.
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Old 09-24-2013, 09:34 PM   #22
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You have Harbor Freight in the UK?
I wish, mine was from Amazon http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

it was 6.99 delivered, originally looking for one of those contained oil extractors, but hoping this will work.

Quite good for 6.99 but the tyre inflater looks like Christmas cracker plastic.
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Old 09-24-2013, 09:54 PM   #23
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I used a 1 qt/L bottle pump because this is what I had laying around and I was able to pump the reservoir down in just about 8-10 pumps without any problem.

Something like this, most auto parts stores have these in stock and they are usually about $6.

http://www.amazon.com/Plews-55001-Lu...1+qt+hand+pump
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:20 PM   #24
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Amazon has BMW ATF according to their site. The description is BMW 88-06 Dextron III Fuchs Tital ATF 3353. Is this the original ATF that BMW filled their new cars with? The product is expensive. $64.00 for a 4 liter bottle.

How much ATF does the reservoir hold? If I was to pump and refill the reservoir 3 times, how much ATF would I need? According to Amazon, they sell a number of brands of Dextron III ATF.
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:24 PM   #25
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I think 1 quart will do 3 pump and fills?

I did 2 pump and fills on the one car I was working on and I think there is enough left in the bottle for 1 more pump and fill.

I would not try to get something that $18 a qt, Mobil 1 or Redline synthetic is all you need.

I just happened to have Mobil 1 on hand so I used it.
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:26 PM   #26
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I changed mine when I got my car using the "turkey baster" method. It's so cheap and easy to do, I'll do it probably once every three years.
Lots of opinions on this rather cheap maintenance item. Just use the cheap "Turkey Baster" method as mentioned by Zell & refill the reservoir every 3-6 months. It only takes a few ounces & you can buy a quart of Dexron VI ATF for $4.27 at wally world which will last for several refills. Cheap insurance IMO. And replacing the reservoir is only about $22. As for the hoses weeping; remove the OEM BMW clamps that can't be tightened, remove (cut off) about 1/2" of the hardened hose end, allowing for a "new" surface to go onto the reservoir ports and install with new clamps. If I'm not mistaken, the reservoir cap had a "vent" hole in the side of it which will also weep fluid & gravity will allow it to cover the reservoir housing. Then it catches the dust/dirt blow into engine bay making it dirty. Just hose it off the next time you wash the car. Pretty simple & cheap.
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I do not know if the E46 PS hoses are as bad as the E39 hoses, but the E39 hoses swell and get soft and just need to be replaced.
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Can I mix Mobil 1 ATF with the Dextron III that is already in the power steering system? Or am I better off buying Dextron III made by Valvoline or some other oil company. I don't plan to replace the power steering system parts, drain and refill the complete system per Mango's recommendation. I will probably buy a new reservoir and drain and refill it 3 times.
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:57 PM   #29
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Generally you can mix synthetics with non synthetics without issues. You will not have all of the synthetic benefit while there is a dilution with the non synthetic.

The synthetics hold up to the heat a bit better than the non synthetics and I think it is the heat that takes the fluid out.
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Old 09-25-2013, 11:20 AM   #30
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I do it once a year approx 16K and buy 1 qt of Redline D4 that will suck and fill three times. The fluid is always bright red. After 194K and 12.5 years, it is the only maintenance I've done to the PS system!
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Old 09-25-2013, 11:26 AM   #31
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How Often Do You Change Your Power Steering Fluid

i usually brush off the excess fluid off of the cap and call it a day.

haven't changed it ever.
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Old 09-25-2013, 11:33 AM   #32
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The E36 Service Interval II calls out checking the fluid level, but there is no routine service interval to replace fluid in this system.

I've never heard of a routine service for power steering fluid changes.
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Old 09-25-2013, 11:54 AM   #33
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I do not know if the E46 PS hoses are as bad as the E39 hoses, but the E39 hoses swell and get soft and just need to be replaced.
In many ways I would imagine the PS hoses are similar, if not identical, especially in material. Remember, the E39 and E46 shared engines. I would not expect PS hoses to be much different in durability between the two chassis.

I have done the turkey baster method a few times over the last couple of years. One of my reservoir lines is starting to swell. I will replace both lines and flush the system at that time.
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Old 09-25-2013, 06:18 PM   #34
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In many ways I would imagine the PS hoses are similar, if not identical, especially in material. Remember, the E39 and E46 shared engines. I would not expect PS hoses to be much different in durability between the two chassis.

I have done the turkey baster method a few times over the last couple of years. One of my reservoir lines is starting to swell. I will replace both lines and flush the system at that time.
How long are these hoses supposed to last without leak? I had my high and low pressure PS hoses replaced about 2 yrs ago as they were leaking. Now when I look up from under car it appears they are leaking (a little) around the metal seal on the hose. Just leave it? Ask indy to replace again at parts cost or not his fault after 2 years?
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Old 09-25-2013, 10:00 PM   #35
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Re: How Often Do You Change Your Power Steering Fluid

Thanksgiving is coming up. Usually grocery stores have turkey baster on sale for like a dollar. So head up.
Last year I bought 4. All different colors and have each color to match what fluid is being used. Blue for coolant, red for power steering, brown for oil, ect..

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Feels like weekly since this thing leaks so bad. Replaced one hose, but the other is leaking now and that damn thing is well over $100.
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Feels like weekly since this thing leaks so bad. Replaced one hose, but the other is leaking now and that damn thing is well over $100.
Yeah seriously I mean I know the whole "you can get a BMW for only $7500 plus a few grand in maintenance every year" attraction but as the sole owner of this car, it doesn't seem like my Hondas have had so many damn leaking potential places.....right? I mean it seems like everything leaks in this friggin engine bay.
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Old 09-26-2013, 03:48 AM   #38
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I change the steering fluid every 2 years by disconnecting the hose from the pump and turning the steering rack lock to lock until all fluid comes out.
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How long are these hoses supposed to last without leak? I had my high and low pressure PS hoses replaced about 2 yrs ago as they were leaking. Now when I look up from under car it appears they are leaking (a little) around the metal seal on the hose. Just leave it? Ask indy to replace again at parts cost or not his fault after 2 years?
I would replace the hose if that's where the leak is coming from. They should definitely last more than 2 years. Mine are original (9 years old) and are just now starting to swell. I doubt many original owners had leaking lines within 2 years.
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