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Old 09-25-2013, 05:29 PM   #1
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Rebate on Mobil 1 0W-40

hey guys dont know if this has be posted already (i tried a quick search)

Amazon has a rebate on Mobil 1 0W-40 right now for up to 2 purchases of 5qts or more.

the pack of 6 was a bit cheaper for my yesterday, but i got a 5.1qt and a pack of 6 qts

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...1&s=automotive

http://www.amazon.com/Mobil-96989-0W.../dp/B000SKV4U2

comes out to $6-$7/qt after rebate. free shipping too.

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Old 09-25-2013, 05:31 PM   #2
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Not a bad price. I have an oil change coming up for my S4 so I might just take advantage of this, considering I have to buy 10 quarts
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Old 09-25-2013, 05:44 PM   #3
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Old 09-25-2013, 05:48 PM   #4
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Walmart carries m1 0-40 for $22/5qt.


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Old 09-25-2013, 05:52 PM   #5
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i ordered mine via walmart online. cost $5 to ship. easy still havent used it yet
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Old 09-25-2013, 06:47 PM   #6
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Old 09-25-2013, 07:07 PM   #7
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Old 09-25-2013, 07:28 PM   #8
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I just bought some from Walmart the other week. Gonna give this Mobil1 European formula 0w-40 a try. For the longest time I was using their 5w-30 or whatever oil weight was stated in the manual
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Old 09-25-2013, 07:38 PM   #9
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I just bought some from Walmart the other week. Gonna give this Mobil1 European formula 0w-40 a try. For the longest time I was using their 5w-30 or whatever oil weight was stated in the manual
Mobil 1 XW30 doesn't meet spec, their 0W40 does.
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Old 09-25-2013, 07:40 PM   #10
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Yeah I know that now, which is why I said I was using it for the longest time...meant to say "without knowing" Before half a year ago I thought all oil ratings/weights were the same across all the brands...
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Mobil 1 XW30 doesn't meet spec, their 0W40 does.
That spec is only pertinent if you only change every 15K miles. If you reduce the oil change interval (to 7.5K, for instance), then the LL01 spec has little meaning.
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That spec is only pertinent if you only change every 15K miles. If you reduce the oil change interval (to 7.5K, for instance), then the LL01 spec has little meaning.
LL01 includes the ACEA standard as well for high-performance operation. All LL-01 meets ACEA A3/B3, but not all ACEA A3/B3 meets LL-01. Sprintman or Shanneba can confirm whether or not this is accurate. I believe Redline makes an ACEA A3/B3 standard approved oil but it doesn't meet LL-01--whether or not they submitted it to BMW's go-to ISP testing lab in Germany for certification could be why. I'd see no point as anybody savvy enough to be using Redline in their BMW is savvy enough to know what specs are important. (Not to mention cost)

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Re: Rebate on Mobil 1 0W-40

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Mobil 1 XW30 doesn't meet spec, their 0W40 does.
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That spec is only pertinent if you only change every 15K miles. If you reduce the oil change interval (to 7.5K, for instance), then the LL01 spec has little meaning.
Also, this is incorrect. Even an LL-01 oil will not necessarily last the full 15,525 miles. Send in a couple oil samples if you want to know how long it will really go.
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Old 09-25-2013, 09:45 PM   #16
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That spec is only pertinent if you only change every 15K miles. If you reduce the oil change interval (to 7.5K, for instance), then the LL01 spec has little meaning.
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Also, this is incorrect. Even an LL-01 oil will not necessarily last the full 15,525 miles. Send in a couple oil samples if you want to know how long it will really go.
You haven't provided any info/data/argument for why his statement is incorrect.
We're not talking about semantics here.
Changing oil every 7.5K miles... why does one need LL-01?
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You haven't provided any info/data/argument for why his statement is incorrect.
We're not talking about semantics here.
Changing oil every 7.5K miles... why does one need LL-01?
Because I've already done so, ad nauseum. Search for mine and other members old oil analysis threads. Longevity info, break-in periods, tribochemical films, shearing vs. oxidation and nitration, TBN depletion rate, silicon and wear metals... Blah blah blah. There's a wealth of knowledge on the subject here from many members, sprintman can tell you. I think others have probably jumped ship. But old threads never get searched for so I guess the wheel has to get reinvented every time.

The info is there if you want to read it. I spent a lot of time on it and learned a lot. It's up to you if you'd like to do the same.

Hint: in my car, 8000 was about right with M1 0w-40, an LL-01 oil. I'd hate to see how rough a non LL-01 would look after that long.

Edit - I've been thinking of reviving the old analysis tradition. I've been on some really good stuff the past few years, Motul X-max 5w-30. It actually used to be a BMW specific LL01 oil, but they re-branded it at some point to their X-max line. It's been discontinued now but I bought a stockpile on Amazon when it was still made. Base stock has a higher ester content than the usual M1 or GC I believe. I'm expecting it to outperform them by a noticeable margin, that's my gut instinct at least.

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Old 09-25-2013, 11:08 PM   #18
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Walmart, $4.95 a quart all day everyday.
well I'll be damned, looks like ill make the trek over to walmart in the future. too nice of a price for me boycott the place.
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Because I've already done so, ad nauseum. Search for mine and other members old oil analysis threads. Longevity info, break-in periods, tribochemical films, shearing vs. oxidation and nitration, TBN depletion rate, silicon and wear metals... Blah blah blah. There's a wealth of knowledge on the subject here from many members, sprintman can tell you. I think others have probably jumped ship. But old threads never get searched for so I guess the wheel has to get reinvented every time.

The info is there if you want to read it. I spent a lot of time on it and learned a lot. It's up to you if you'd like to do the same.

Hint: in my car, 8000 was about right with M1 0w-40, an LL-01 oil. I'd hate to see how rough a non LL-01 would look after that long.

Edit - I've been thinking of reviving the old analysis tradition. I've been on some really good stuff the past few years, Motul X-max 5w-30. It actually used to be a BMW specific LL01 oil, but they re-branded it at some point to their X-max line. It's been discontinued now but I bought a stockpile on Amazon when it was still made. Base stock has a higher ester content than the usual M1 or GC I believe. I'm expecting it to outperform them by a noticeable margin, that's my gut instinct at least.

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Not interested in any of that oil analysis crap.
I see you have a 2000 E46. Reasonable to believe it has quite some miles on it. If you've always done 8K oil changes with 0W-40, and your engine is still working fine, that's good for you.
Do you have any evidence that changing oil at 7.5K with 5W-30 (the correct weight prescribed in the manual by BMW) will kill the engine?
My point is... people overdo this oil stuff. It's not necessary.

Actually, according to this guy, correct oil weight is more important
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=746400
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Not interested in any of that oil analysis crap.
I see you have a 2000 E46. Reasonable to believe it has quite some miles on it. If you've always done 8K oil changes with 0W-40, and your engine is still working fine, that's good for you.
Do you have any evidence that changing oil at 7.5K with 5W-30 (the correct weight prescribed in the manual by BMW) will kill the engine?
My point is... people overdo this oil stuff. It's not necessary.

Actually, according to this guy, correct oil weight is more important
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=746400
Oil weight is very important.

What you're missing is that the SAE rating on the front of the bottle has very little correlation with the actual kinematic viscosity of the oil. The BMW branded 5w-30 oil is substantially thicker than the 5w-30 junk at Autozone and Walmart.

If you don't believe me, look up some datasheets. German oils, and European made oils in general, run much thicker than an American made oil of the same rating. For example, the German made Castrol 0w-30 (LL-01) is thicker than the American 5w-30 variant.

Viscosity is important. SAE rating is not.

But no, using an oil that doesn't meet spec probably won't kill your engine. But I figured, since it's going to cost the same anyways, I might as well use the better oil (and also try to stretch out the change interval correspondingly, therefore reducing cost in the end). Longer drain intervals can lead to less wear than an arbitrarily chosen interval that's too short anyways, but that's another topic for another day.

What you do is your decision. I try to keep my decisions as informed as I can though.

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