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Old 09-25-2013, 04:20 AM   #1
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Dealer states car had engine replaced due to water ingestion?

I am on the look out for an M3 and I am looking at this car tomorrow.

http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/de...?Cr=11&sdmvc=1

The dealer selling the car told me that the owner whilst driving ingested a heap of water into the engine. How I don't know. Apparently it was all covered by insurance, and BMW replaced the engine. All paperwork and receipts are there. This all happened at about 70,000km. Now sitting at 97,000km, means that I would have an engine with only 27,000km on it!

Is this a good thing? As long as the work was carried out correctly I imagine it is a good thing.

Is there anything I should be on the look out for specifically knowing that this has happened?

Otherwise I will asking the normal questions regarding rear subframe, VANOS, (should'nt be any recalls on a 2005 from my knowledge) etc.

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Old 09-25-2013, 04:45 AM   #2
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I doubt they would have replaced with a brand new engine?
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Old 09-25-2013, 04:46 AM   #3
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Melbourne Metro experienced flash flooding 12+ months ago, could have had water up to its roofline

Stick you head under the dash and see if you can see water marks etc, be weary if there is a strong airfreshner

but rule #1 get a PPI carried out on it, forum sponser Worx would be a good start..
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Old 09-25-2013, 05:02 AM   #4
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It looks like his camera ingested a bit of water too.
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Old 09-25-2013, 05:58 AM   #5
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Could've had an aftermarket air filter without a cover? Not as uncommon as you may believe
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Old 09-25-2013, 06:25 AM   #6
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Dealer states car had engine replaced due to water ingestion?

Or a second hand engine with 27kkms on it...
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Old 09-25-2013, 06:54 AM   #7
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Have a look at rajs m3 man
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Old 09-25-2013, 04:43 PM   #8
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I would definitely be looking to spend the extra coin and get into Raj's M3 (M3 CS)


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I would definitely be looking to spend the extra coin and get into Raj's M3 (M3 CS)


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Old 09-25-2013, 05:32 PM   #10
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Go to Community>Member's List>Search 'M3 CS'>Look at his thread history>Contact him>Buy car.

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Old 09-26-2013, 03:28 AM   #11
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Oh that's right. That's the car I want but can't afford. I have to erase it from my memory or I struggle to go on...
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Oh that's right. That's the car I want but can't afford. I have to erase it from my memory or I struggle to go on...
same...
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Old 09-26-2013, 04:16 AM   #13
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The dealer in question elaborated a little today. Apparently whilst driving in the vicinity of Bendigo a few years ago during a period of heavy rain behind some cars, they all passed through a large puddle and water splashed over the front of his car, and suddenly the engine stopped. Had the car towed to BMW, who said it had water damage within the engine, recommend engine change.
Covered under insurance BMW installed a brand new engine. All papers are there to back up the work done, all $30,000 worth!

I will look for any obvious water damage anywhere else, like carpets, anywhere where water would settle etc, because it sounds suspiciously like it was driven through flood waters.

Would anyone trust a dealership to do a full engine swap? Would it not be better having it in the one piece as it was made in Germany? Or is that offset by the fact the engine only has 25,000 odd kms?

Didn't get up to Albury today, weather was too rough.
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Old 09-27-2013, 02:23 AM   #14
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The dealer in question elaborated a little today. Apparently whilst driving in the vicinity of Bendigo a few years ago during a period of heavy rain behind some cars, they all passed through a large puddle and water splashed over the front of his car, and suddenly the engine stopped. Had the car towed to BMW, who said it had water damage within the engine, recommend engine change.
Covered under insurance BMW installed a brand new engine. All papers are there to back up the work done, all $30,000 worth!

I will look for any obvious water damage anywhere else, like carpets, anywhere where water would settle etc, because it sounds suspiciously like it was driven through flood waters.

Would anyone trust a dealership to do a full engine swap? Would it not be better having it in the one piece as it was made in Germany? Or is that offset by the fact the engine only has 25,000 odd kms?

Didn't get up to Albury today, weather was too rough.
Calling bullshit...

So he's saying the car went through a "puddle" that big that it got enough water to get in the intake, past the filter and forced enough in the heads for the engine to stop and somehow damaged it enough that simply opening up the cylinder heads and cleaning it up couldn't fix...

I would think that a simple story like the owner forgot to check the oil and it seized would fly better. Makes me wonder what actually happened...

Unless you could get documents of the insurance claim or whatever happened...
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Old 09-30-2013, 11:22 PM   #15
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Go to Community>Member's List>Search 'M3 CS'>Look at his thread history>Contact him>Buy car.

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Cheers guys. Just did a few things to it too so it's better than ever!
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Old 09-30-2013, 11:25 PM   #16
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I watched an M3 hydrolock in about 5" of water.. Ugly...

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