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Old 10-15-2013, 01:07 AM   #1
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so im just browsing bmws (like i always do) on the web just to take a look-see and ive been interested in bmw e30s for a while now and im just wondering which line of the e30s is the best? as far as dependability/performance/style? which is just an all around great car to own? i like 2 doors with or without a drop top. ive been doing my own research but just curious as to what other "actual" owners will say about it?

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Old 10-15-2013, 01:18 AM   #2
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i've had a 318is and a 325i convertible. the 318is was noisy and light. the 325 is smoother but the engine still sounds like a sewing machine. i have way more fun in the 325 simply because it's on coilovers. the 325 has a timing belt. the 318is has a chain. both are fine to work on. both are reliable as long as they're cared for.
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Old 10-15-2013, 01:37 AM   #3
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i've had a 318is and a 325i convertible. the 318is was noisy and light. the 325 is smoother but the engine still sounds like a sewing machine. i have way more fun in the 325 simply because it's on coilovers. the 325 has a timing belt. the 318is has a chain. both are fine to work on. both are reliable as long as they're cared for.
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hmm so which would you choose over the other?
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Old 10-15-2013, 02:01 AM   #4
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hmm so which would you choose over the other?
I'd choose the vert. For two reasons, the top down driving is so fun. And it has a very stiff ground control coil over suspension on it. It handles like a go cart.
The m20 is a very good sounding engine. And it's smooth. But I can't say I prefer one engine over the other. The m42 loves to rev and is peppy and fun. It delivers okay power and did not disappoint.
If it were between a 318is coupe and a 325i coupe same mods same car it would be very hard to choose. Probably the 318is because it's lighter.
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Old 10-15-2013, 02:41 AM   #5
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i love my 325 sedan, although i wish it was a 2 door
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Old 10-15-2013, 02:45 AM   #6
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1989, is, 2 door, 5 speed is the best option IMO. It came with the projector headlights, limited slip diff(not sure the non is came with it), sport seats, on board computer. Best car I've owned in terms of performance/balance.
responds well to engine mods, it's lighter on its "feet" than my pig e46. The e30 I owned would run circles around my e46 (325ci). It responds really well to chip, intake, exhaust, and since you are in CA, maybe a mild cam (can be hard to pass smog with an some cams). My car did not pass smog with the chip I was running, but I could revert back to stock chip in less than 30 minutes.

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Old 10-15-2013, 04:13 AM   #7
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Old 10-15-2013, 04:17 AM   #8
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You want the 1989-1991 coupe manual. They are more fun with 24v swaps.

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I had an 88' 325is def go for one with the sport package if you could find one. These cars don't disappoint. Just find one that doesn't need too much work.
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If you want the best handling, look for a 325es or 325is - they have the sport suspension and are fun to throw around.

Many of you prefer the 2.5 engine, but I owned a car with the E or 2.8 engine for 12 years. It has more bottom end torque than the 2.5 and gets better gas mileage. If you can find a 325es, it has the limited slip differential. The 2.8 engine is bullet proof as well. Also, there are some easy, bolt-on mods for the 2.8 using parts from other BMW engines that can double the HP.
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Wow thanks for the info everyone, from what im gathering there really isnt a wrong choice with the e30!

Now here is another question...i love to off road, hehe...its sort of a hobby of mine and im looking for um, rally car if you will. i just love the idea of being able to have your car take you anywhere on the road...and off of it! now i dont mean crazy jumping cars, just something like a little weekend fun. any more opinions!?
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Old 10-15-2013, 06:58 PM   #12
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One thing to watch out for is the 318i from 84 and 85. Those were based on the M10 engine instead of the M42, so it only makes like 100hp.
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If you want the best handling, look for a 325es or 325is - they have the sport suspension and are fun to throw around.

Many of you prefer the 2.5 engine, but I owned a car with the E or 2.8 engine for 12 years. It has more bottom end torque than the 2.5 and gets better gas mileage. If you can find a 325es, it has the limited slip differential. The 2.8 engine is bullet proof as well. Also, there are some easy, bolt-on mods for the 2.8 using parts from other BMW engines that can double the HP.
Isn't it a 2.7ltr. M20b27? I don't recall them having a 2.8

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Isn't it a 2.7ltr. M20b27? I don't recall them having a 2.8

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You're right, the E motor is a 2.7. I don't know why BMW referred to it as the 2.8 but they did (the 528 from that era used the 2.7.) 2.8 is what you see when you look up parts for it.

I second the idea that the 1984-85 318s did not have good engines. I never heard any bad stuff about the 90s 318s. I have a friend who has been a Euro-mechanic for 25 years and he doesn't think too highly of any 4 cylinder BMW engines (why buy a 4 when the 6 is so sweet?)

In case you find a nice 325e or 325es, the link below tells you how to modify a 2.7 using i engine parts. If I had kept my 325es, I would have done this: http://www.strictlyeta.net/technical/328i_1.html

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Wow thanks for the info everyone, from what im gathering there really isnt a wrong choice with the e30!

Now here is another question...i love to off road, hehe...its sort of a hobby of mine and im looking for um, rally car if you will. i just love the idea of being able to have your car take you anywhere on the road...and off of it! now i dont mean crazy jumping cars, just something like a little weekend fun. any more opinions!?
My mechanic friend I mentioned earlier has a late 80s Mazda 323 GTX (AWD) that seems to be a favorite of rally car drivers. You can definitely do on-road/off-road with one of them.
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You're right, the E motor is a 2.7. I don't know why BMW referred to it as the 2.8 but they did (the 528 from that era used the 2.7.) 2.8 is what you see when you look up parts for it.

I second the idea that the 1984-85 318s did not have good engines. I never heard any bad stuff about the 90s 318s. I have a friend who has been a Euro-mechanic for 25 years and he doesn't think too highly of any 4 cylinder BMW engines (why buy a 4 when the 6 is so sweet?)

In case you find a nice 325e or 325es, the link below tells you how to modify a 2.7 using i engine parts. If I had kept my 325es, I would have done this: http://www.strictlyeta.net/technical/328i_1.html
Yeah, I have been reading lately about doing that to my e30 2.7.. Thats a good link, will save that one..
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I have an '88 325 is and it is the best car I have ever owned by a fair margin. Fun, simple and robust. General wisdom is that the 89-90 IS coupe would be the one to have (small bumpers, pre airbag wheel, sport suspension and seats, LSD) but there are so many good options and it it is very easy to make them what you want. Bumper updates and differential swaps are easy. The early 318 is the only one I would avoid. The eta 6 is a treat around town with the low end torque although I do prefer my 2.5and love the way it buids power from 4,000 rpm up. A limited slip diff makes the car much more entertaining in spirited driving and unlike the e46 they can be pluged in from car to car very easily. Enjoy.
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Old 10-16-2013, 11:32 PM   #19
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Wow thanks for the info everyone, from what im gathering there really isnt a wrong choice with the e30!

Now here is another question...i love to off road, hehe...its sort of a hobby of mine and im looking for um, rally car if you will. i just love the idea of being able to have your car take you anywhere on the road...and off of it! now i dont mean crazy jumping cars, just something like a little weekend fun. any more opinions!?
Yes! Yes! Yes!
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There was recently an e30 for sale on craigslist Denver that was set up for rallycross type stuff. Perhaps its still posted. There is a good Chris Harris youtube video (2 parts) of him rallying an e30.
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