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Old 10-16-2013, 04:45 PM   #41
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Us individuals with health insurance don't really see much benefit from this act. It's mainly for those who can't afford health care or need better coverage. Like I said, it's like social security when you start to think about it.
More on the backs of the middle class coming from big government?

shocking

Seems like everything out of this thing we call government targets either the really rich or the poor, no one else.
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Old 10-16-2013, 04:59 PM   #42
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More on the backs of the middle class coming from big government?

shocking

Seems like everything out of this thing we call government targets either the really rich or the poor, no one else.
The really poor need help the most thus they can be "heroes" and help them. However, that will cost money that the "almost poor" or "just getting by" can't afford so it gets paid for by the "rich" (meaning anyone deemed at the time to be able to afford paying more).

It's pretty simple really...
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Old 10-16-2013, 06:16 PM   #43
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The really poor need help the most thus they can be "heroes" and help them. However, that will cost money that the "almost poor" or "just getting by" can't afford so it gets paid for by the "rich" (meaning anyone deemed at the time to be able to afford paying more).

It's pretty simple really...
I actually meant that everything helps either the rich or poor and everyone in the middle gets the shaft
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:22 AM   #44
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And do you attribute #'s 2 and 3 directly to "Obamacare"?
Can't really say, my insurance goes up just about every year. So do my deductables. I'm also over the age of 30 with no pre-existing conditions. So I'm not in the "YOUNG HEALTHY" range who are going to pay very high prices to cover the poor and elderly.

I do know others who have had their insurance go up 20-50% this year. Their deductables went up $2000 - $4000 a year this year.

Mine does no go up that much over a years time, but what do you contribute the sky high increase to a lot of others?

Maybe I should have asked "age" also and if you had insurance before, or plan to buy it now. I do know $0.00 vs any cost is a large increase for those people.
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:30 AM   #45
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Why is #4 even a question?

Obamacare is not mandatory
REALLY?

4. Have you been able to keep your current healthcare insurance and doctor?

If your employer provided health insurance and decides to no longer provide it, I think you would loose your current health insurance.

If your current doctor is not approved by certain insurance plans, I think you would loose your current doctor.

Obamacare is not mandatory, but buying healthcare insurance is. Your current doctor may not accept the new insurance you buy. There are many reasons you would not keep either.

However, a lot of people will not be affected by these rules, some may not even see an increse in dollars. But, many will., and many will see a drop in care.
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:54 AM   #46
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1. How many have signed up for the PPACA (ObamaCare) Insurance? No
2. Has your health insurance premium gone up? (how much) Yes, 17%.
3. Has your healthcare insurance deductable gone up? (ho much) No, and quality of care remained constant.
4. Have you been able to keep your current healthcare insurance and doctor? Yes
5. Have your hours been reduced due to PPACA? No, but as a healthcare company, we have seen a reduction in headcount. Leadership has sited Medical Excise tax and ACA implementation. 40% impact in Sales staff headcount for Medical Devices....
6. Did your employer stop providing healthcare insurance for employees? No
7. Has anyones health insurance gone down $2500? No

Interested in others experiences so far, if any, with the PPACA.
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:58 AM   #47
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Ill say this, the health care bill is just like social security & IRS.

Social security was nothing in the beginning now you need it for everything you do... Govt was knows what you doing.

IRS>100 years later they still cant explain why is illegal to not pay taxes on your hard worked money.. Which profit is okay to be taxed.

This health insurance will start simple but soon govt will squeeze somenthing else in it as a law.

Seriously with all this wars, aid foreign countrys tax dollars and highest taxes in the world but this country cant afford health care like it use too be?¿

cant afford it because they over charge to the extreme for toothpaste etc,etc and later bill it to the tax payers.



DO YA STILL BELIEVE THE GOVT?

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