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Old 10-17-2013, 11:03 AM   #1
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hid blue lights question

Hi, I recently instlled HID headlights on my M3.
I don't know the specs, but I got bulbs that shine bluish in color because I thought it would look cool.

Is it my imagination or does the blue light not shine as bright as the yellow? When I turn my highbeams which are stock H7 I can actually SEE the road infront of me. The blue HID's are pointed just fine, but I just can't see far enough with any detail...

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Old 10-17-2013, 11:07 AM   #2
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Re: hid blue lights question

The higher you go in color temperature, the less lumen output you get. 4300k produces more lumens than 8000k.

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Old 10-17-2013, 11:09 AM   #3
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Yeah, those blue lights:

A) Don't look cool. They look cheap and ricey.

B) Don't output much usable light. Just wait until you drive in the rain at night.

The highest I would go is 6k.
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Old 10-17-2013, 11:13 AM   #4
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Thanks Gents! I'm specifically told the headlight place I want bright lights like on a landing gear of a 747 hahaha I'm surprised they let me have the 8000k ones (I think that's what I got). I'll go get some 5000k's...
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Old 10-17-2013, 11:13 AM   #5
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Hi, I recently instlled HID headlights on my M3.
I don't know the specs, but I got bulbs that shine bluish in color because I thought it would look cool.

Is it my imagination or does the blue light not shine as bright as the yellow? When I turn my highbeams which are stock H7 I can actually SEE the road infront of me. The blue HID's are pointed just fine, but I just can't see far enough with any detail...

any comments would be appreciated.

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Unless you bought OE/OEM bulbs from a high-end supplier (which I know you didn't based on your description of really blue lights), then you purchased and installed trash. Good lights costs good money.

NO ddm trash
NO cheap hid kits
NO generic lights
NO teenboi specials

Basically avoid looking like choxor. see his sig? what a disgrace!
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Old 10-17-2013, 11:16 AM   #6
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Unless you bought OE/OEM bulbs from a high-end supplier (which I know you didn't based on your description of really blue lights), then you purchased and installed trash. Good lights costs good money.

NO ddm trash
NO cheap hid kits
NO generic lights
NO teenboi specials

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thanks Mango. Yes - I don't take offense. I probably bought junk I just don't know any better... I went to ddm tunning in San Diego...

Do you think the balasts are junk too or should I just go buy GOOD bulbs somewhere else? What do you recomment? Like I said - I'm in S.D.

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Re: hid blue lights question

I used to have a maxipad with FX-R projectors and 6000k bulbs. The light output was craptastic so I went with some Philips 4300k bulbs. The difference was incredible, especially in the rain. I'm gonna buy some Osram 5000k bulbs to drop into my E46 here soon.


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Do you think the balasts are junk too or should I just go buy GOOD bulbs somewhere else? What do you recomment? Like I said - I'm in S.D.

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Just buy new bulbs.
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+1. Just buy bulbs that are 4100k ~ 6000k -- I have 6000k, and wish now that I stayed at 4100k. 6000k is as white as you want to go, anything higher is too far blue.
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thanks Mango. Yes - I don't take offense. I probably bought junk I just don't know any better... I went to ddm tunning in San Diego...

Do you think the balasts are junk too or should I just go buy GOOD bulbs somewhere else? What do you recomment? Like I said - I'm in S.D.

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I'm not sure what your M3 currently has on it (as far as projection systems go) but if it came with factory xenon, then install OEM Philips Ballasts with OEM Philips bulbs
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5k @ 35 Watts, 6k @ 50 Watts.

Do not suggest going any higher than these figures. The goal is not to have blue or purple lighting. I have seen the stupid purple lighting and what a useless waste of time, money and effort and you cannot see at night.

My preference is only to run HID conversions in projector headlights and/or convert your existing headlights to projectors.

As for DDM Tuning, I have used a number of sets from these guys, up until the last set, not issues what so ever. The last set gave me fits, I thought maybe a flaky ballast, but it turned out the bulbs were junk. Started out a bulb would not always fire, then when I hit bumps it would go out, then after ordering another set of bulbs and they came from China, the next day after replacing the flakey bulb, the other bulb just quit.

Seemed the light color was either faded/yellowed on the original set and/or the color temp was not quite as high. Had the bulbs less than 9 months.

But again, if you do any HID conversion, only do it in projector lens, use a relay harness and do not go higher than these bulb temps - 5k @ 35 Watts, 6k @ 50 Watts.
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Unless you bought OE/OEM bulbs from a high-end supplier (which I know you didn't based on your description of really blue lights), then you purchased and installed trash. Good lights costs good money.

NO ddm trash
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I prefer 65 watt HIDs personally.



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pump the brakes kid, that man's a national treasure.
here's a shot that choxor texted me the other morning where he's pumping the brakes:

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Yeah bro, I zip tie all the wires into a single bundle because it makes the electrons bigger.

Bigger electrons = more b-b-b-bass.
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You don't want blue, you want as close to white as possible... so around 4800-5000k color temperature.

Philips 85122CM is what you want. They are "pre-color shifted." Xenons shift in color temperature over the life of the bulb, and these are "pre-shifted" to around 5000k so you can just replace one side and have it match the other.

OEM starts at 4200k, and has a more yellow color to them in comparison. They will shift over time.
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The best bulbs are osram cbi if not Philips 85122+


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