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Old 11-06-2014, 12:38 PM   #1
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I can only afford ONE set of tires, so......

I'm getting to the wear bars on my current Bridgestones, and am wondering what I should be putting on the 325i for the upcoming winter.

Is there a "recommended" (i.e. most popular amongst readers, here) "all-season" tire that represents the "best value/best performance" overall?

I realize this is a "dreamland" request.....and, of COURSE I'd love to have enough moolah lying around to have a pair of Blizzaks for winter and a nice pair of sticky Conti's for summer......but, don't have the cash OR the room for storing the "other" set in either season.

Ideas? Tips? Hints? Thanks, guys.

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(P.S. I'm in southern Ontario and experience cold weather from now til March end...but roads are most often centre-bare in winter. Although... :-) )
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Old 11-06-2014, 03:40 PM   #2
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Old 11-06-2014, 04:50 PM   #3
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I'm running the Gmax tires right now. Don't go with those. I'm not too confident driving when it snows. Gonna give something else a shot, when they wear out.
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Old 11-06-2014, 11:45 PM   #4
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Really? ........You'd put a set of Hankooks on a Bimmer???
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Old 11-07-2014, 12:08 AM   #5
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Really? ........You'd put a set of Hankooks on a Bimmer???
Wow, that's the thanks i get for giving you some tire info.

To answer your question YES, i ran a used set of Hankook Z-214's on the street for a few months in dry conditions, they had more grip than any other tire i've ever used.
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Old 11-12-2014, 06:25 AM   #6
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Wow, that's the thanks i get for giving you some tire info.

To answer your question YES, i ran a used set of Hankook Z-214's on the street for a few months in dry conditions, they had more grip than any other tire i've ever used.
Didn't mean to offend! :-)

It's just that I put a set of Hankooks on my 07 Camry once (wifey's daily commuter) and they felt like the car had been turned into a Flintstone-mobile.

Don't know if it was just one bad tire.....or a bad balance job or what it was, but I got them off quick and put on the Michelins I should have bought in the first place. $300 more.....but what a difference.

Not hearing from many people out there.

What.....no one PUTS new tires on their E46?
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Old 11-16-2014, 05:34 PM   #7
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I had Hankooks for about 3 months, big mistake. First hard braking and tires were DONE. Now I am wearing Toyo, no complaints. From past experience Continental DWS and Toyo are very good tires. From my recent experience with Tire Rack I would recommend you stay away.
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I'm getting to the wear bars on my current Bridgestones, and am wondering what I should be putting on the 325i for the upcoming winter.

Is there a "recommended" (i.e. most popular amongst readers, here) "all-season" tire that represents the "best value/best performance" overall?

I realize this is a "dreamland" request.....and, of COURSE I'd love to have enough moolah lying around to have a pair of Blizzaks for winter and a nice pair of sticky Conti's for summer......but, don't have the cash OR the room for storing the "other" set in either season.

Ideas? Tips? Hints? Thanks, guys.

Michael
(P.S. I'm in southern Ontario and experience cold weather from now til March end...but roads are most often centre-bare in winter. Although... :-) )
At the end of the day, all season tires are good for almost nothing with RWD. With AWD you can obviously get away with it, but not RWD.

Not to sound like a dick, but if you were to get a mid grade winter tire right now, so... not spending $600ish on Blizzacks... you can't budget for the next 5 months to get a pair of summer/all season tires?

I never skimp out on winter tires. For me, with RWD you can't put a price on safety bud.
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At the end of the day, all season tires are good for almost nothing with RWD. With AWD you can obviously get away with it, but not RWD.

Not to sound like a dick, but if you were to get a mid grade winter tire right now, so... not spending $600ish on Blizzacks... you can't budget for the next 5 months to get a pair of summer/all season tires?

I never skimp out on winter tires. For me, with RWD you can't put a price on safety bud.

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Oh and for the record, I'm currently on a set of Hankook R-S3 245/40-17 in a square setup. They're a great set of summer tires.....



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Old 11-16-2014, 07:17 PM   #10
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I just bought a set of Michelin Alpin PA3 snow tires from Tire Rack. They get installed tomorrow.
I'll let you know how they compare to Michelin Primacy All Seasons that came on the car.

But if you drive at all in the snow, I agree with JJR: the cost of snow tires is the price of doing business with a RWD car.

I understand being jammed up on budget, but I think if you watch the classifieds here between now and May, you can find a set of wheels with summer tires pretty cheap.

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At the end of the day, all season tires are good for almost nothing with RWD. With AWD you can obviously get away with it, but not RWD.

Not to sound like a dick, but if you were to get a mid grade winter tire right now, so... not spending $600ish on Blizzacks... you can't budget for the next 5 months to get a pair of summer/all season tires?

I never skimp out on winter tires. For me, with RWD you can't put a price on safety bud.
OK.....I know where you guys are all coming from; like I said, if money were no object, I'd have a nice set of wheels for each season!

Let me ask ONE MORE cheapster question:
Does anybody out there think I can get away with snows on the back only?

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Does anybody out there think I can get away with snows on the back only?
That is horribly dangerous and illegal in a lot of places. I would rather see you with 4 all seasons through winter then 2 winters in the back only.
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I have Continental DWS , quiet, drive great, I play around occasionally the they are predictable street traction.
Snow and rain performance is excellent. Would I run them on a race car? no.
But until I find something that's a fair price that lasts longer they are here to stay..
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Old 11-16-2014, 10:29 PM   #14
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OK.....I know where you guys are all coming from; like I said, if money were no object, I'd have a nice set of wheels for each season!
Let me ask ONE MORE cheapster question:
Does anybody out there think I can get away with snows on the back only?
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Another option, you just need to deal with putting them on (About 3 min per tire) & taking them off.

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Old 11-17-2014, 10:13 AM   #15
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That is horribly dangerous and illegal in a lot of places. I would rather see you with 4 all seasons through winter then 2 winters in the back only.
Thanks for your comment......but, easy there!

Illegal in some places?

Maybe on the Roger's Pass coming through the Alberta Rockies.....where they don't let you in without proving you've got chains in your trunk......but, I can't imagine any other jurisdiction where they have a LAW about the type of tires you have on your car.

Please do send a link to that section of your Highway Traffic Act.

Where you AT, anyway? :-)
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Another option, you just need to deal with putting them on (About 3 min per tire) & taking them off.

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Oh THAT ain't gonna happen!

I'll do a lot of things to make sure I don't get stuck in the snow.....(like carry a bag of kitty litter in the trunk for weight and traction).......but having chains thrashing around inside my wheel wells on my baby Bimmer is not one of them!
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Oh THAT ain't gonna happen!

I'll do a lot of things to make sure I don't get stuck in the snow.....(like carry a bag of kitty litter in the trunk for weight and traction).......but having chains thrashing around inside my wheel wells on my baby Bimmer is not one of them!

Again with dumb assumptions.

They're Not chains, they're a thin cable. SCC designed them for Audi, BMW, & Mercedes.

Based on this thread of yours, you might want to do more research on things first before you put up some of the posts you have.



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OK.....I know where you guys are all coming from; like I said, if money were no object, I'd have a nice set of wheels for each season!
Listen man, I'm trying to help. In a perfect world money would be no object for everyone, however if you budget and save say, $100 a month... come spring time you will have your money for your summer tires. Not sure how much more simple I can make it. If you are on that tight of a budget I guess there are no real options.

Good luck. Do things the right way, you dont' need to buy the best of the best but get tires that work for the climate. You want to be safe.
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Listen man, I'm trying to help. In a perfect world money would be no object for everyone, however if you budget and save say, $100 a month... come spring time you will have your money for your summer tires. Not sure how much more simple I can make it. If you are on that tight of a budget I guess there are no real options.

Good luck. Do things the right way, you dont' need to buy the best of the best but get tires that work for the climate. You want to be safe.
Appreciate your comments. I'm in the unusual situation of facing the first purchase of new tires for the Bimmer.......AND being in a climatic environment that is pretty rare as well. (Here in Niagara Region, Ontario, we've got one of those macro-micro climate things going on.....which, yes, makes it great for the grape growers, but tough for making tire decisions.)

Might just go ahead and do what that gentleman dwtaylorpdx suggested....with the Contis. Seems like a nice compromise. Thanks, Dave.
(Wow.....that Rob guy's got attitude, doesn't he?! Thanks for being so friendly, Rob. Nice post to a newcomer in need. Who moderates this forum anyway?)
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To confirm your decision, the Conti DWS is your best option for an all season tire for this car with good light snow traction.
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