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Old 10-22-2013, 10:51 AM   #1
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Blizzak Decision

I've always driven my beater E34 in the snow, with Blizzak WS-50/60/70 etc. Always loved the performance of these tires in the snow, so I want to stay with the Blizzak.

Now I need to drive my E46 Coupe, sport suspension, stick shift this Winter as my daily. I have a square set of M68 fronts to mount 225/45R17 snow tires on, trying to decide between WS70 and the new LM32. Any thoughts welcomed.

My commute is back roads out in the country, farm roads that blow over with snow a lot, when the snow really hits it can be a few inches deep on the roads, they don't get plowed right away. This makes me lean towards the WS70, but on dry days I'm concerned this might have a little too much wallow for the 3 Series chassis. That said, I've only ever had the WS70 in a narrower width, 205 and below.

So is the wider WS-70 maybe less squirmy? Also, how would the LM32 deal with the deeper snow when I need it too?

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Old 10-22-2013, 12:19 PM   #2
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I ran the LM25V on my S4 and found that the snow/ice traction was good but not fantastic. The dry road feel was obviously superior, but I found myself getting loose in snow/ice far more often than with the WS series. As I understand, the LM32 is supposed to be similar to the 25 in handling characteristics, so I might be concerned that while your dry traction will be better/more confidence-inspiring, your snow traction could suffer. Quattro disguises a lot of it, but to be honest, the LMs don't feel vastly superior to all-seasons in the snow. I'm sure numbers would suggest otherwise - just my personal impression.

This will be my first winter with the ZHP, and I elected to run the WS. I agree that it's soft and squirmy in the dry, but as I return to RWD in snow/ice, I wanted the max traction in those conditions. I'm also running a 215/50/17 on 4 M68 fronts. It's about 1.7% speedo difference, but on the fresh tires it's giving me essentially a 1/4-inch "lift" over stock, which I hope will help to prevent me losing underpanels. The taller sidewall will not help the "squirmy" feeling, however.
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Old 10-22-2013, 12:39 PM   #3
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Thanks, I appreciate the input. I think I'll stick with the WS then.
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:29 AM   #4
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If you're used to the awesome ice and snow traction of a Blizzak WS-70, you may be disappointed with the winter traction of performance snow tires like the LM32.

Winter http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=BN4&...nter/index.jsp
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Old 10-23-2013, 12:12 PM   #5
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Thanks Gary. From talking to other people, and from advice in this thread, I'm pretty much set on the WS-70. Will probably take a Saturday morning drive over to see you guys in the near future.
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Definitely check out the tirerack comparison tests and perhaps Gary can shed some light, but it looks like the Continental beat out the WS70 in their comparison. I already bought myself some Blizzaks, but those Contis look like they might be pretty nice as well, and at a good discount compared to the Blizzak.
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Old 10-30-2013, 01:46 PM   #7
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Problem solved. As luck would have it, I found a used set of WS-70 225/45R17s from a local Craigslist seller. One season of very light use on them, 9 1/2 to 10 1/2 32ndths on two of them, and the other two still have the tiny ridges on the solid rubber, basically new. $400 for all four. Just need to get them mounted on the square M68 (fronts) that I already have and I am good to go.
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