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Old 10-22-2013, 05:26 PM   #1
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*pics* so my car sits higher in the rear after Koni/Eiback set up. any suggestions?

installed my new suspension over the summer, and everyones telling me the Rake look is really noticeable.. so what should i do?

get thinner rear spring pads?
remove the spring pads themselves?

any help will be appreciated
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:55 PM   #2
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not to sound rude, but you did install the fronts in the front and rears in the rear? Other than that, I know Eibachs do sit a little higher in the rear, then H&R does.
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Old 10-22-2013, 06:04 PM   #3
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nope, im an apprentice at a bmw indy, it was done correctly.
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Old 10-22-2013, 06:05 PM   #4
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so my car sits higher in the rear after Koni/Eiback set up. any suggestions?

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Old 10-22-2013, 06:18 PM   #5
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will take one tommorow, its too dark in nyc to take a pic at the moment.
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Old 10-22-2013, 06:34 PM   #6
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I doubt the rear sits higher than it did before(as in it probably isn't a higher height from the ground when compared to stock springs), but yes, your car probably has more rake than it did before. Basically your car has a natural rake (illusion) from factory, but since the lowering springs drop the front more than the rear... you are left with a more noticeable angle from front to back. Both options you listed will help your situation. Thinner pads will help a little with the "raked" look while the complete removal of the pads will help the most, but you will most likely experience loud noises from the metal on metal contact from the rear springs and their perches.
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Old 10-22-2013, 06:45 PM   #7
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Re: so my car sits higher in the rear after Koni/Eiback set up. any suggestions?

Yeah, I went from stock to koni yellow sports and H&R springs, same thing, front lowered and the rear raised. That's actually what I was assuming to happen so it wasn't a big deal.

I was actually looking to get the rake back and I'm glad I did, it handles just like it's supposed to when it comes to squat and dive.

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Old 10-22-2013, 07:03 PM   #8
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Yeah, I went from stock to koni yellow sports and H&R springs, same thing, front lowered and the rear raised. That's actually what I was assuming to happen so it wasn't a big deal.

I was actually looking to get the rake back and I'm glad I did, it handles just like it's supposed to when it comes to squat and dive.

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Maybe I wasn't clear enough, your rear did not "raise." For example, (I'm using extreme number changes) say stock front height equals 200mm and rear height equals 200mm. When you install lowering springs, most companies will drop the front more than the rear. So, maybe the new front height is 120mm and the new rear height is 180mm. Your rear will be "taller" than the front, but you haven't gained any height. Your overall car height was actually reduced, just biased more towards the front. They are called "lowering" springs for a reason, not "heightening" springs.
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Old 10-22-2013, 07:16 PM   #9
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Maybe I wasn't clear enough, your rear did not "raise." For example, say stock front height equals 50mm and rear equals 50mm. When you install lowering springs, most companies will drop the front more than the rear. So, maybe the new front will be 40mm and the rear will be 45mm. Your rear will be taller than the front, but you haven't gained any height. Your overall car height was reduced, just biased more towards the front. They are called "lowering" springs, not "heightening" springs.
Teddy,
You're probably right. I did measure from the top of the fender to the center of the wheel hub before and after the install and it did go from 12.25" before the install to it's current height of 13.5". I'm sure I did something wrong when measuring because like you said, there's no way that the rear was raised, probably just an optical illusion between the gap over the back wheel getting larger and the way I was looking at the tape measure.

Thanks for clearing up my misconception of my car.

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Teddy,
You're probably right. I did measure from the top of the fender to the center of the wheel hub before and after the install and it did go from 12.25" before the install to it's current height of 13.5". I'm sure I did something wrong when measuring because like you said, there's no way that the rear was raised, probably just an optical illusion between the gap over the back wheel getting larger and the way I was looking at the tape measure.

Thanks for clearing up my misconception of my car.

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My bad man. Didn't mean to come off that way. Just never thought the lowering springs raised the car. I'm glad you measured though so we aren't stuck arguing over subjective stuff. This way I can admit that I'm wrong. Sorry dude.
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Old 10-22-2013, 11:53 PM   #11
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What eibach springs did you get? My sportlines have a slight rake, but thinner pads do help. My rears have almost no gap.
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Old 10-23-2013, 02:46 AM   #12
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eibach pro kit, said equal drop 1.4 inches on each side, i am not seeing this, how hard is it to remove rear spring pads
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eibach pro kit, said equal drop 1.4 inches on each side, i am not seeing this, how hard is it to remove rear spring pads
From what I heard the pro-kit barely drops it at all compared to stock sports suspension. My sportlines had a minimal drop in the rear. Maybe someone with the pro-kit can chime in!
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Old 10-23-2013, 03:03 AM   #14
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well in the front its a very noticeable drop, the rear looks almost stock, which is bothersome, i thought it would be an equal drop all around as advertised
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Old 10-23-2013, 06:57 AM   #15
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ahhh the rake look aka general lee stance... hate it
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Old 10-23-2013, 07:02 PM   #16
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yeah true. now i have pics to show yous what i mean,
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Old 10-23-2013, 09:19 PM   #17
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yeah true. now i have pics to show yous what i mean,
Hmm thats a pretty significant rake... other pro-kits that I have seen didn't have that much rake. Positive no installation error?

Here is my car with sportlines. You can still see the slight rake... but not as significant.

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Old 10-23-2013, 10:36 PM   #18
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your car looks perfect.im just gonna take out the pads, and see how it is, if its too squeeky without them i wil get zhp 5mm pads, if your car is a ZHP then it had the thin spring pads, and your sport lines are a lower drop than the pro kit
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your car looks perfect.im just gonna take out the pads, and see how it is, if its too squeeky without them i wil get zhp 5mm pads, if your car is a ZHP then it had the thin spring pads, and your sport lines are a lower drop than the pro kit
I do not have a ZHP, but I already had 5mm pads. What I recommend doing is getting some rubber hosing, and covering the bottom coils with that. In that way you won't have any noise. I'm not sure how much lower it will make it... but try it out! Good luck
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Old 10-23-2013, 10:45 PM   #20
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thats a pretty great idea i must admit! will check in when it is done, how hard is it to get the pads out and the springs so i can put the rubber hosing
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