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The E46 XI was produced from 01-05 in sedan and touring body styles. Powered by either a 2.5L inline 6 in the 325xi or a 3.0L inline 6 330xi. Discuss all thing about BMW AWD E46 'Xi' here.

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Old 11-09-2013, 08:29 PM   #1
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First time BMW owner, No Start full electric power

Hello all,
I've had my '03 325xi for 3 months or so. I really like it, thought I could handle it but now I have this no start issue that is beyond me.
The first sign of a problem was six weeks ago. I was starting the car and noticed it to longer to start, was slow to turn over at first. Started we went to the store. When I went to leave, we got nothing from turning the key. The parking lot was on a hill so I tried roll starting it backwards. It didn't work but just as I was about to call for help. It started right up.

I honestly forgot about the whole thing until Monday of this week. Boom. No start again. Acts like it has full battery power, dash acts normal. But no click, no buzz, no nothing when you hit the key coming from the engine compartment. I live of a hill so I roll started it a couple days ago. Other than smelling highly of gas it was fine. But still won't start.

What I've tried:
Jump start, giggling of various wires, some black fuse box under the hood which held a small black box that has 5 small fuses. All fuses appeared good.

What I think may cause:
Bad starter (usually makes noise)
Bad battery (tried to jump start)
Bad EWS (have no idea)
Bad key ( I only have one master and the valet key, which I can't find)
Bad switch on clutch

Man that list is terrible.
I appreciate any help.

Enjoy your weekend.
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Old 11-09-2013, 09:23 PM   #2
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First time BMW owner, No Start full electric power

Can you hear the fuel pump prime when the key is turned to position 2?

Typically if I don't hear that and I can't roll start the car it is the fuel pump that died.

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Old 11-09-2013, 09:36 PM   #3
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Re: First time BMW owner, No Start full electric power

Roll starting is fine. Can hear the pump

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Old 11-09-2013, 10:29 PM   #4
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Sounds Like the starter same thing happened to me might wanna take it to BMW stealership on E 5th I had to go there a few times when I lived in Muldoon
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Old 11-10-2013, 08:55 PM   #5
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Re: First time BMW owner, No Start full electric power

Guess that's the plan. Hopefully the bill is no more than $850. I can't really afford that. Without a garage and our first snow fall it's not a DIY project

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Old 11-10-2013, 08:55 PM   #6
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Re: First time BMW owner, No Start full electric power

Can you damage the car roll starting in the cold?

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Old 11-10-2013, 11:08 PM   #7
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Roll starting shouldn't hurt the car, I had the starter replaced in my e36 at an indie shop last winter and it ran me about $300 IIRC for a reman. Bosch.
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Old 11-11-2013, 01:54 AM   #8
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Damn i called acurate import and they quoted 850

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Old 11-17-2013, 07:02 PM   #9
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i had to get it done few weeks after i bought my car dont take it to the dealer. I remember their quote being double what i paid at bmw specialist. i think i paid 600 with a bosch replacement; still a bit high but i had to get it done fast. i suggest taking a look at how old your battery is too..i just replaced mine and it was mfd in 2011. it cost me 265 taxes in at the dealer and that was with a discount.
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Old 11-17-2013, 08:41 PM   #10
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Unlike many car staters that sort of tell you when they are going bad, the staters in this car will just "give up the ghost" without much prior warning. You can purchase a new Bosch on Amazon for much less than the same starter will cost you from a dealer and most other BMW Parts companies and it will be brand new and with the same warranty. Having saved a bundle on the price of the starter, you can take the car and starter to either a BMW Dealership or a trusted Independent BMW Repair station and have it installed. If they want to re-place the starter by removing the Intake Manifold, go else where, that is the most expensive way (also the way the Bentley Repair Manual and BMW Manual tell you to do. THe quickest way is to do it from underneath the car by slightly dropping the sub-frame (supported of course) so that you can reach up and disconnect the wires and the starter, the starter will just have enough clearance to be removed and the new one slide in place. In a shop, it reduces the time from 8 hours to less than 4. Automatic Transmissions take a little more time than Manual Transmissions (ask me how I know since I have one of each type).
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Old 11-18-2013, 08:47 PM   #11
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Hello all,
I've had my '03 325xi for 3 months or so. I really like it, thought I could handle it but now I have this no start issue that is beyond me.
The first sign of a problem was six weeks ago. I was starting the car and noticed it to longer to start, was slow to turn over at first. Started we went to the store. When I went to leave, we got nothing from turning the key. The parking lot was on a hill so I tried roll starting it backwards. It didn't work but just as I was about to call for help. It started right up.

I honestly forgot about the whole thing until Monday of this week. Boom. No start again. Acts like it has full battery power, dash acts normal. But no click, no buzz, no nothing when you hit the key coming from the engine compartment. I live of a hill so I roll started it a couple days ago. Other than smelling highly of gas it was fine. But still won't start.

What I've tried:
Jump start, giggling of various wires, some black fuse box under the hood which held a small black box that has 5 small fuses. All fuses appeared good.

What I think may cause:
Bad starter (usually makes noise)
Bad battery (tried to jump start)
Bad EWS (have no idea)
Bad key ( I only have one master and the valet key, which I can't find)
Bad switch on clutch

Man that list is terrible.
I appreciate any help.

Enjoy your weekend.
That tells me the solenoid was giving out, sounds like a new starter is in order. Are you handy. Can you DIY this?
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Old 11-20-2013, 06:14 PM   #12
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Re: First time BMW owner, No Start full electric power

It's done. The starter was the problem. Thanks for everyone help. I took it to the shop and got an OE starter installed

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