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Old 11-16-2013, 01:56 AM   #1
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Nikon D3200 or D5100 or D5200

Hey guys, I am planning to get an entry level DSLR.
During my research, I pinned down D3200, D5100 and D5200.
Also, there are some sweet deals on D3200 and D5100 over black friday on target and walmart, if I am not lazy to stay on the line.

Target: D3200 for $499 with 18-55mm and 55-200mm lens.
http://bfads.net/Item/Target-Black-F...-Bundle/157379

Walmart: D5100 for $499 with 55-250mm lens(I don't think nikon makes 55-250mm lens so may be its a not a nikon lens).
http://bfads.net/Item/Target-Black-F...-Bundle/157379

D5200, the prices on adorama and cameta are pretty good.

Besides the obvious megapixel difference, which one would be a better choice?
I am trying to keep the total under $600 because I want to see if I will take it seriously, plus I have other things to spend on in this holiday season.

I have been using megazooms from cannon like sx10is for sometime, so I like having a flexibility of swivel screen. But not having a swivel screen is not a deal breaker for me as I intend to do very less video on the new camera I buy.

Also, I have some gift cards for amazon that I would like to use, do you think there will be any deals on amazon on these on cyber monday?

Any advices?
I already started looking at some prime lenses, but have to decided on the body first.
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Old 11-16-2013, 05:29 PM   #2
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I see you're not sure if you will use it a lot. I know (sell included) will look at the price first when buying their first DSLR. imo You are buying into a system. Canon and Nikon make really great DSLR. I chose Nikon because I like the feel of the camera in my hand and I navigated around their menu without having to open up the manual. If you are sold on buying a Nikon camera, just so you know the Entry level cameras only auto zoom with G type lenses. SOme of the prime lenses that are available are D-type will not auto zoom on the entry level cameras. They are cheaper but you have to manually zoom. For example, Nikon 50mm f/1.8 G AF-S $@217 vs 50mm f/1.8 D AF is $125 (saving est. $100)

So if you get a prime lens for the entry level, your total cost would be around $800.

(option 1) Nikon D7000 gives you more lens options if you do decide to keep going. Better battery life and more features like top LCD screen. Front and rear commander dials which is great for changing your settings on the spotůso you don't miss a shot. Best Buy has it for D7000 w/18-140mm lens for $800. With Nikon current models you can increase the ISO in low light so that you can get a better image.


(option 2) Buy Used and save more.

D7000 http://www.adorama.com/US%20%20%20%20592000.html
D5000 http://www.adorama.com/US%20%20%20%20599646.html
D5100 http://www.adorama.com/US%20%20%20%20600821.html

lens options
18-200mm
http://www.adorama.com/US%20%20%20%20582270.html
24-85mm
http://www.adorama.com/US%20%20%20%20570924.html

down the road get a prime lens

(option 3) Go with the D5200 and forget all that I just said. lol D5200 is closer to the D7000. What's missing is those pro like features. Top LCD screen. Front Subcommand dial, useful when shooting in manual mode. It does work with Nikon Wifi Adapter. I would get a better kit lens 18-105mm 24-85mm or 18-200mm

http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Nikon_D5200/


option 4 ů wait til December and see what else will be available. December they will have camera deals too. Maybe your choices will be cheaper.
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Old 11-17-2013, 09:47 AM   #3
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Nikon D3200 or D5100 or D5200

Thanks for the post man.
I have been a canon point and shoot and mega zoom person for a long time. And I have had my fair share of problem with canon cameras. Of course I can't say the same about dslrs.
Reading up on the Internet, looks like Nikons are better in picture quality. Hence I was looking to start up with Nikon and build up on it. However I do like the fact that canons have auto focus motor built in the entry levels like t3, t3i, t4i, etc.
would you recommend t3 over the Nikon entry levels?
I am more of landscape, wildlife and stationary object shooter. Not interested in video. But the tilt and swivel screen does help a lot.
I am a bit apprehensive about buying used gear but the D5100 link you posted has 90 days warranty. So I might think about it. I was looking for a refurb deal on D5100 as well.
Getting confused even more. Lol.


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Old 11-17-2013, 12:37 PM   #4
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lol sorry I was gonna rake leaves but it was raining yesterday. ((killing time))


If you don't feel comfortable buying used then go with the deal at Target. They are offering 20% off when you spend over $75. Or get it online and save on tax and shipping (depending on where you live). Buy from an Authorized dealer like Adorama or BH Photo. Cameta I've heard some positive and negative from them.



But to throw you again Keh.com sells used and new. A lot of my pro photography friends shop here. I haven't but I've seen and used the gear that they bought from there and its really nice.

http://www.keh.com/Camera/format-Dig...de=DN&bco=497&


I like the images that I see from Canon. Their videos are great too. I personally prefer Nikon especially their menu. You said you're not sure if you would stick with it, right? Then go with the D5100. You were looking for a 55-250mm lens. Err ah you can step closer to your subject for 50mm lol. I don't shoot with those kit lenses. If I had a choice I would go with a kit lens that is better than the 18-55mm. That's why I listed those. I'm not a wildlife shooter but I've read other Nikon users like the 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 VR $587 ($329 refurb/$399 used). or maybe 55-300mm?? Other lenses 70-200 f/4, 300mm, and 70-200 f/2.8..


http://www.adorama.com/NK70300AFVRR.html



or just go with the D3200 from target.
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Old 11-17-2013, 04:09 PM   #5
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Nikon D3200 or D5100 or D5200

Dude you just confused me even more. Lol. May be I will head to a store and test these out today.
I will do more research on these and ask more questions. Thanks man.


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Old 11-17-2013, 08:19 PM   #6
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Imma confuse you more. I'm not a dude. lol Sorry I like to stir the pot. I went back and looked at your last post. Photography is an expensive hobby.



Honestly it really boils down to how much you want to spend. Staying with your budget and the fact that you didn't care for video (D5200) ... I would go with the D3200.


You were hinting that you might not stick with it. That's why I suggested some used options.
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Old 11-17-2013, 11:50 PM   #7
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Nikon D3200 or D5100 or D5200

Sorry about the "dude" post. I assumed.

I like photography but don't know if I will dedicate a lot of time on it. I just want to have a decent setup to capture the pictures better than my point and shoot mega zooms. I love to travel and the footprint and weight of a dslr being similar to my p&s, I am thinking to get into the dslr for better quality pictures.

I am very aware of it being an expensive hobby. I will upgrade when I get time to invest on it. For now I am looking for a replacement my mega zoom and don't want another p&s with big zoom. I might go with a 200 or 300mm lens with an entry level dslr.

Went to best buy today to compare them. They only had d3200 in stock, may be I will stop by another store tomorrow to compare how it feels.

One thing I missed on d3200 was the swivel screen of canon sx10is. I never thought I would miss that feature. But until I compare d5100 and 3200 or 5200 I can't really decide.

With used, I am apprehensive because I have had my fair share of troubles with my p&s zoom lens retraction. Multiple shipping occasions to canon. I want to have a peace of mind at least for a year so I am looking at new or factory refurbs.

I am planning to build up on it slowly(if i like to keep the hobby). So for now I want to start with an entry level dslr. May be in a out 2 years I will upgrade the body. While I will try to collect the glass if I get better in photography.




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Old 11-18-2013, 11:33 AM   #8
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Size wise with any of these cameras you will see like ah 0.1in in either the width or height. I would look at which features you really want and go with that. One of my buddies shoot with a D3000 and he's getting nice images. He shoot portraits and landscapes.

Go here and midway on the page is a side by side comparison of D3100/D5000/D5100

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond5100/

D5200 review
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikon-d5200
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Old 11-18-2013, 05:02 PM   #9
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I have reading reviews and comparisons everywhere.
Seems like D5100 has a little edge over D3200.
D5200 tops them both but is out of my budget.

I am leaning towards D5100 but still deciding.

I read somewhere, its best to wait till December(even you posted earlier). Is it because new models come out next year and the prices drop?

I don't need it immediately nor do I need the newest. I am just willing to try photography as a hobby and be better at it.
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Old 11-21-2013, 10:45 AM   #10
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I forgot Abes of Maine. I've probably used them once. They are Nikon Authorized dealer. The D5100 w/18-55mm is listed for $499. And from what I'm reading the 70-300mm lens is better than the 55-200mm for landscape photography (low budget). used $289. You can start with a body and one lens. Then down the road get another lens. (option 204) lol


http://www.abesofmaine.com/shoppingC...5&l=PRICEGRABB

http://www.adorama.com/US%20%20%20%20602820.html
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Old 11-22-2013, 10:11 AM   #11
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Don't forget to sign up to receive newsletters from Adorama and BH photo. I know sometime Adorama will send deals that you can't search on their site.
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Old 11-24-2013, 06:57 PM   #12
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I suggest the 5200. I have it and love it! It was incredibly easy to learn on with the interactive screen that shows you when you adjust your settings. I actually just put a feeler up for mine as I want to upgrade.

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=1015052
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Old 11-27-2013, 12:43 AM   #13
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So folks, I am leaning more towards D5100 and D5200.
I am swaying away from D3200 because of the absence of flip/swivel screen(I am very used to it with my canon), HDR, bracketing and more controls on the 5 series than 3 series (I do sound like a BMW nut here).
I did see a used Nikon D7000 body with Nikon Nikkor 35mm f/1.8G DX lens in craigslist for $425. Very tempting but a used body is something I would not prefer. http://denver.craigslist.org/pho/4211654769.html
I may ask him if he wants to part the lens though.

1) D5100+18-55mm VR AFS G lens+55-200mm VR lens for $500 (if I can get it in walmart on black friday/thursday)
2) D5100+18-55mm VR AFS G lens $439 (refurb by nikon with 90 days warranty at adorama)
3) D5200+18-55mm VR AFS G lens $579 (refurb by nikon with 12 mo warranty at cameta)
4) D5200 body only $529 (refurb by nikon with 12 mo warranty at camera)

Observations:
D5200 with 24 MP will produce much larger picture with kit lens and I can crop more.
D5200 will have better resale if I decide to sell it.
D5200 have more focus points and faster fps, for sports(not much interested) and wildlife(very interested).
D5200 has faster processor
D5200 has full year warranty if I decide to go with the above deals.

D5100 will be cheaper to buy
D5100 with walmart deal, I will have more flexibility with two lenses.
D5100 will give me more leeway to buy a prime.

So, whether I shall jump on the D5200 or D5100 is the question. Decisions decisions... I may wait till december if the prices are supposed to come down, else I will buy one soon.
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Old 11-27-2013, 10:43 AM   #14
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I saw this today. I know it's over your budget D7000 with 18-140mm f/3.5-5.6 VR. That's like buying the D7k for $400 and the lens for $400. No flip screen,

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Best Buy offers the Nikon D7000 16.2-Megapixel Digital SLR Camera with the Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-140mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR Lens, model no. 13310, for $1,599.99. Coupon code "D7000DEAL" drops it to $799.99. With free shipping, that's $129 under our September mention of this camera with a 18-105mm lens and the lowest total price we've seen for this camera with any lens. (It's a current low for this combination by $519.) It features a 3" LCD, 1080p video recording, optical image stabilization, two SDXC card slots, HDMI output, and USB.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/nikon-d7...ref=25&loc=PGR


Or go with no.1 choice D5100 with the two lenses.

Or used D90 Kit from KEH $600. D90 18-70mm lens with Bag and 2GB SD card. You would need to get the 70-300mm lens for shooting wildlife

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nikon-D90-12...item1c397dd850
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Old 11-27-2013, 05:59 PM   #15
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Thanks for the suggestions chaps.
Will let you guys know what I end up getting.
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Old 12-05-2013, 11:41 AM   #16
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Nikon D3200 or D5100 or D5200

There is d5100 with 18-55mm kit lens on amazon today for $429.
Good deal?
I am leaning more towards d5200 but this deal is pretty sweet.
Jump on it or not?


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Old 12-05-2013, 06:32 PM   #17
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If its from an Authorized Dealer. then yes
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Old 12-05-2013, 07:17 PM   #18
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Yah, its from Nikon USA via amazon.
I decided to pass on it, sure is a good deal though.
I am still juggling on d5200 or d7000.

My thoughts: If I am spending 500 on a camera then I would spend a little more and get one with 39 focus points (either d5200 or d7000). I do like to photograph soccer games and I think 39 focal points would help me more.
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Looking at all the info you provided. One you want to stay under a budget $600. Shoot Landscape, Wildlife, Portraits (stationary subjects). With your budget, go with the cheaper body(D5100) and remember you still need a lens for the landscape/wildlife. $300-500 used 70-300mm VR f/4.5-5.6G. When you are ready to sell the D5100, you will get atleast $200-300 back (I think). Or just use it as a second body.


You only need one focus point. lol When Nikon entry level cameras had only 3 AF points, they were pretty slow. Now it's a lot better. 11 AF is plenty for what you want to do. The more you have does help to focus in low light, but since you don't have any fast glass it's becomes a non-factor. I actually tried to use a prime lens with a D3200. I was shooting a concert and one of the media people had one. They had a kit lens on. I was getting great images on D90 (pic below) and they asked to use my 50mm. I tried to capture what I was getting on my D90. What they got was extremely dark and grainy.

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Old 12-06-2013, 12:10 AM   #20
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^ That is a nice picture.
Yup, I did look at some lenses that I would want in the future. Probably I will get a 50mm prime, 55-200mm f/2.8. I am not sure if I will get the AF-S versions. Since I am undecided between d5200 or d7000.
Lenses aside, I definitely want more focus points for some soccer pictures. I took some pictures with my sx10is in manual mode when Manchester United had a tour of the US and I got hooked. I missed a lot of shots because I couldn't get the focus fast. Plus I want to use the body at least for two years to get more friendly with the camera. I did venture some used market as well, found some D7000s with 18-105mm lens for about $700.
I am just apprehensive about buying used.
Using D7000 at best buy, I felt it is a bit too advanced for me, but I did expect it to be so. I am willing to extend my budget slightly, only issue is comfort zone that I am in with D5200.
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