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Old 11-17-2013, 10:46 PM   #1
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Looking for a first car, need some advice.

I'm a late P plater (reds when I was 20), and the family's coming to terms to getting rid of one of our cars to a family friend.

We're wanting to replace it, and we're open to options, but require some extra advice.

Depending on car, my sibling's contribution would change (more for new car, less for used). Suggestions from them were '14 Corolla's/Holden Cruzes (both $20k+)and some cars along those lines.

My suggestions were a used E46, be it 325/330 ($15k '05/$13k '02 respectively), up to a 2011 XR6 that was found for $18k.

Would the used cars be worth it in the end? Would the savings from buying used cover the costs of any early maintenance that would need to be done bar subframe issues that i've been reading about?

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Old 11-17-2013, 11:07 PM   #2
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Looking for a first car, need some advice.

Seriously? Why would you even consider buying a 10 year old car when you can buy a nice new cruze for around $20k.


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Old 11-17-2013, 11:33 PM   #3
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Go get a BRZ/FT86. Seems that's the car of choice for P platers. I reckon 80% of BRZ/FT86 owners are P platers.
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Old 11-17-2013, 11:34 PM   #4
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Good point. I think I might go trade the M3 for a Suzuki Karate Kizashi!
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Old 11-17-2013, 11:56 PM   #5
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Good point. I think I might go trade the M3 for a Suzuki Karate Kizashi!
Needing a bit more straight line speed hey Dec?
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Thanks for all your replies. On the note of new vs used, I forgot to mention that i'll be funding the remainder of the car, after the current one has been sold. Overall, I would have to pay less for the BMW, contributions and sold car considered, but would the saving of a few grand make the BMW still the worse choice? I do like the sound of a new car though, but the 86/BRZ are just out of the price we're willing to pay for them. If they dropped to maybe 25k for the base model drive away then it would be a more realistic consideration. I have entered a competition to hopefully win one though ... so finger's crossed to that.

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Old 11-18-2013, 12:18 AM   #7
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Needing a bit more straight line speed hey Dec?
I'm getting a bit sick of all this oversteer nonsense! Said no one ever...
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Old 11-18-2013, 01:15 AM   #8
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Depends on if you want trouble free motoring or not (warranty)

E46 is pretty old now and even a good example will have slightly exxy problems.

There's no right or wrong answer though, you just never know
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I'm getting a bit sick of all this oversteer nonsense! Said no one ever...
So it's currently running? Good for you dude!
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Depends on if you want trouble free motoring or not (warranty)

E46 is pretty old now and even a good example will have slightly exxy problems.

There's no right or wrong answer though, you just never know
Thanks. Yeah, that's the main thing I was looking at. I was happy to work on the car if needs be, but I need to work on it every month for longer than a couple of hours then damn. What's the average E46 in terms of maintenance costs like?
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Old 11-18-2013, 02:35 AM   #12
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Yeah. That's the problem I have. $15k for an '05 seems like a pretty good deal, before all checks and whatnot.
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Yep. The trick is to keep it in the garage for 19/20 days...


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Yeah. That's the problem I have. $15k for an '05 seems like a pretty good deal, before all checks and whatnot.
15 for an 05? where?
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Old 11-18-2013, 05:43 AM   #15
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Sorry it was an '04 on carsales for 15k. The '05 was 19k with 61k kms
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Old 11-18-2013, 05:55 AM   #16
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To some people a car is a car.

My mate bought a Cruze and he drives to work every day.

It doesn't stand out in the crowd.... gets good mileage...... inexpensive to maintain and gets from A to B with minimal fuss.

I bought a E46 M3 and drive it to work every day.

It stands out in the crowd.... hmmmm mileage...... damn fuel pump cost me $400 and gets from A to B sideways if necessary

So I guess its about what you want from the car and whether an E46 of any flavour pitches you a tent in the morning or whether a Cruze will keep you warm at night without worrying what that new noise is going to cost you.
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If u go e46 keep a few $k ready for immediate/soonish maintenance
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Old 11-18-2013, 10:30 AM   #18
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Looking for a first car, need some advice.

I would buy a car with warranty (new car, not used car yard) since it's going to be used/abused/relied on by more than 1 person..

Who will be responsible for the maintenance bills when parts with a life span of 10 years do need replacing?

Remember, your maintaining a $70+k car, not a $15k one

G'luck on your choice, a e46 will no doubt be a more rewarding drive




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Old 11-18-2013, 03:49 PM   #19
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Looking for a first car, need some advice.

Don't be lured by the badge young man, comes with a price.
*E46's are fairly old cars therefore will require a fair bit of maintenance.Which is not a bad if your mechanically inclined, parts supercheap on the internet,big labour bills if your not a spanner guy.
*Other issue is the fuel bill most 6cly average 12-14L / 100km.Enough to make you think twice every time you feel like going for a spin.
*ALso e46 auto gearboxes are notorious for dying esp after 150k.
*Also insurance would be high for a late model e46 looking at about 1500++ for someone your age.

*** my suggestion would be getting a Honda accord euro 8th gen even better in manual 6spd.cheap to maintain,and you can rice it as much you want., good on fuel and can give you years of worry free motoring.


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Don't be lured by the badge young man, comes with a price.
*E46's are fairly old cars therefore will require a fair bit of maintenance.Which is not a bad if your mechanically inclined, parts supercheap on the internet,big labour bills if your not a spanner guy.
*Other issue is the fuel bill most 6cly average 12-14L / 100km.Enough to make you think twice every time you feel like going for a spin.
*ALso e46 auto gearboxes are notorious for dying esp after 150k.
*Also insurance would be high for a late model e46 looking at about 1500++ for someone your age.

*** my suggestion would be getting a Honda accord euro 8th gen even better in manual 6spd.cheap to maintain,and you can rice it as much you want., good on fuel and can give you years of worry free motoring.


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Find a good independent and labour should be pretty standard at 80-100 dollars per hour depending what the job is

E46's are pretty economical .. i never see above 11L per 100km on my OBC (i reset it after every tank)

In my 5 years and 11,500 posts. ive heard of 1 auto gearbox "dying"

As its a family car, id say he'd not be the first nominated driver on the policy. so insurance shouldn't be too bad.
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