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Old 11-21-2013, 09:06 AM   #1
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Shopping for a Christmas present to myself this year. It will be my first gun but by no means am I new to shooting. I learned when I was 8 and have shot somewhat regularly since then.

Here are the constraints and my preferences:

1. I will probably use it once every other month to punch holes in some targets at the range. It will sit in the nightstand or wherever at home most of the time.
2. I prefer to buy new and will probably keep this gun forever.
3. I prefer a polymer design, for no particular reason other than it will add variety to my father's collection when I inherit it.
4. Since it will be used infrequently, ammo cost is not a big concern. I am primarily looking at 9mm and .40. In the 0.001% chance I have to use it for defense, I don't want a .22
5. I am leaning heavily towards a Glock, but for some reason the safety mechanism doesn't sit well with me. It seems designed around safety in daily carry situations vs. safety if my daughter decides to pick it up. Of course, she won't even know it exists until a reasonable age, so that might be a moot point. The best safety is between the ears anyway.
6. Trying to keep price below $600.
7. Won't be carried, so a full size is preferred.
8. Current favorites "on paper" are the Glock 22 and XD. I will definitely try before I buy.
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Old 11-21-2013, 09:28 AM   #2
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I would look at a Glock 17 or 34.

9mm is cheaper than .40 or .45 and works 90%+ as well in self defense.

My Glock NEVER has one in the chamber, but I have an alarm system so I have plenty of time to rack the slide.

To me, this is as safe as possible without being silly. The Glock trigger also "shows" you if the gun has been racked so you can see that it can not be fired.

Remove the mag, rack the slide 3 times, look into the gun (from the ejection port) aim in safe direction and pull the trigger.

The trigger then sets in the back of the trigger guard and can not be pulled again without racking the slide.

Insert your mag. Now you are one step away from being able to fire the gun.

Any of the Glocks, XDs, or M&Ps should do you proud. Just remember, Glock started it all (well HK really but not in this price range.) OK, Glock did it first on a mass scale.

Glocks are also to simplest since they have no external safeties. Racking the slide to me is the best safety.

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Old 11-21-2013, 09:41 AM   #3
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Glock 17. No doubt.


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Old 11-21-2013, 10:08 AM   #4
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I would look at a Glock 17 or 34.

9mm is cheaper than .40 or .45 and works 90%+ as well in self defense.

My Glock NEVER has one in the chamber, but I have an alarm system so I have plenty of time to rack the slide.

To me, this is as safe as possible without being silly. The Glock trigger also "shows" you if the gun has been racked so you can see that it can not be fired.

Remove the mag, rack the slide 3 times, look into the gun (from the ejection port) aim in safe direction and pull the trigger.

The trigger then sets in the back of the trigger guard and can not be pulled again without racking the slide.

Insert your mag. Now you are one step away from being able to fire the gun.

Any of the Glocks, XDs, or M&Ps should do you proud. Just remember, Glock started it all (well HK really but not in this price range.) OK, Glock did it first on a mass scale.

Glocks are also to simplest since they have no external safeties. Racking the slide to me is the best safety.

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Thanks for the suggestions. Where are new Glock 34s being sold for under $600?
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Thanks for the suggestions. Where are new Glock 34s being sold for under $600?
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=371740093
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OK, so more general questions:

1. key differences of Glock gen 3 vs gen 4. Are the changes "worth it"?
2. what's the process for buying over the internet?
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Look at the M&P Line as well.

M&P 9 or M&P Pro or M&P C.O.R.E

I know you said full size preferred but also check out the Glock 19...i think it is the perfect size for about everything IMO.
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Old 11-21-2013, 12:27 PM   #11
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OK, so more general questions:

1. key differences of Glock gen 3 vs gen 4. Are the changes "worth it"?
2. what's the process for buying over the internet?
3 is proven
4 has adjustable grip and new spring but did have some issues in the beginning

Print the ad and take it to your local dealer. See how close they will come to it.

Otherwise, you find a dealer that will take transfers. They charge $10-$50 to accept it.
Pay the internet dealer and give them your dealer info. They ship it to your local dealer.
You complete the paperwork at your local dealer.
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If you have a child in the house, I'd definitely recommend NOT leaving it on your nightstand for any period of time. There are all kinds of small locking cases that will keep the gun secured, but can still be easily accessed in case of an emergency.
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^ +1 against the law to leave a firearm within access to a minor. Lock it up.

There really are only like 2 choices in your price range IMO: Glock and Smith. Both have already been covered by others
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Polymer & under $600 limits you really IMO to S&W M&P, Glock, maybe an Spring XD. I don't like glocks myself because of the grip and shooting angle however they do shoot ridiculously reliable.
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^ +1 against the law to leave a firearm within access to a minor. Lock it up.
Yes. Let me clarify: our 1st child will be born next year. After she is born, my wife and I agreed the gun will be locked up and she probably won't even know it exists until she reaches the right age.
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Maybe look into a Ruger SR9? I carry the compact version, never had a problem with it after approx 2500 rounds. Got the compact bnib for 318 before the craze.

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Yes. Let me clarify: our 1st child will be born next year. After she is born, my wife and I agreed the gun will be locked up and she probably won't even know it exists until she reaches the right age.
Congrats buddy; I just had to cover it, that's all.
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Look into the FN FNP-9 or the FNX-9, as well.

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You can ask Tailo about purchasing out of state...he might have what your looking for,

He helped me out when I was looking pick up my XDM.
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You can ask Tailo about purchasing out of state...he might have what your looking for,

He helped me out when I was looking pick up my XDM.
What did you like about the XDM vs the regular XD or even the XDS?
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