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General BMW E36 Forum
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Old 12-17-2013, 12:49 AM   #1
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E36 2 jz ?

Hey guys hows it going i recently had the urge wanting sell my e46 and do a 2 jz swap in a e36 i was just wondering what everyones thoughts were about it


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Old 12-17-2013, 06:22 AM   #2
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IMO, idgaf what these people think when it comes to what I do with my car (mods, rice, etc). If i want my car to be pink with 22's that are pink as well to match my car and to make it look an m3 even though it's a slow pos, i would do it because I want it like that.

With that said, the only thing that matters (to me) is that I love this forum and the people's brains and their experience on fixing problems.

So... if you want to sell your car and get a 2jz e36 because you want it then do it.

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Old 12-17-2013, 07:20 AM   #3
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So you want to take out a twin-cam inline six just to put another one back in? Seems kinda pointless but whatever, your money.

Not sure what this kanban kid is going on about with his pink 22's though...
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Old 12-17-2013, 07:24 AM   #4
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Hey guys hows it going i recently had the urge wanting sell my e46 and do a 2 jz swap in a e36 i was just wondering what everyones thoughts were about it
I think there is some documentation on this swap but not much. If you have the experience and want a project, go for it. If your 325xi is your only car/your first car/your second car... dont bother. If you want a fast e36, get the e36 M3... It is quite an upgrade in terms of performance vs your current car. If you get bored with the stock power/torque, get a supercharger kit.

If I ever become rich, knowledgeable and manly enough I would like to attempt to do the opposite... Take a MKIV supra, toss the 2j out and swap in an S65/S85, a major PITA especially due to the electronics and maybe space. I would finish it off with an ///M badge on the trunklid of the MKIV.

Why would I would be willing to do this sh*t? Primarily because its different, and I would love to see the public reaction.

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Old 12-17-2013, 07:41 AM   #5
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Old 12-17-2013, 08:17 AM   #6
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So you want to take out a twin-cam inline six just to put another one back in? Seems kinda pointless but whatever, your money.

Not sure what this kanban kid is going on about with his pink 22's though...
Idk man. Been up all night trying to study but not really.

Just telling the OP do whatever he wants to so with his car.
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Old 12-17-2013, 09:18 AM   #7
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So you want to take out a twin-cam inline six just to put another one back in? Seems kinda pointless but whatever, your money.
but, but... Supra! Fast and Furious!
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Old 12-17-2013, 09:48 AM   #8
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Old 12-17-2013, 10:05 AM   #9
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With these kinds of things...if you have to ask...
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:02 AM   #10
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I'd rather just scour the country for a Supra of that generation.
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Old 12-17-2013, 12:26 PM   #11
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I'd rather just scour the country for a Supra of that generation.
Those are expensive these days...over 40 grand for a good unmodified manual turbo MK4.

Plus it is not much car for the money... if your'e keeping it bone stock the e46 m3 we all know and love would outperform it, be more practical for everyday use, and probably be less of a PITA to keep it in decent condition (supra parts arent cheap, see member flightz71 on supraforums who owned both cars). All while costing two times less according to current market prices.

If you are modding it... chances are the resale value will plummet.

At the current price point its a good collector's car to enjoy, because it is a one-of-a-kind rare car, especially coming from Toyota with exotic looks and charisma.
Its also a good platform if you are into drag racing, but there are better platforms considering the MKIV's initial price point.
Its not that good of an all around car

So you buy the Supra only if you love the Supra, if you are drawn by its charisma ... to the point where you can justify the means of shelling out something on the order of the original MSRP for a car that is ~20 years old.

If you just want to get a neat cheap fast car with a 2jzgte it is better to buy an old lexus (eg IS/SC) and do the GTE swap

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Old 12-17-2013, 04:05 PM   #12
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2jz swap mounts are only 200 dorra, easy swap, but like others said... if you have to ask then this is way above your head. (done the swap, so im speaking from experience)
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Old 12-17-2013, 04:14 PM   #13
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Old 12-21-2013, 03:26 PM   #14
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Never done a swap that and i really want to do one i dont understand all the negativity when all i was asking for was peoples thoughts and yes i know supra parts are not cheap i want something that is different from everybody else an im over my head because i dont much about this swap i thought these forums were to get information and help from other owners seems to me that everyone criticizes instead of giving knowledge so thanks fellow bmw owners you helped alot sike


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Old 12-21-2013, 05:24 PM   #15
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Supras are ricey af. If you put a 2jz engine in a bmw then you're a dousche.


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Old 12-21-2013, 05:46 PM   #16
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Did he really just say "sike?"

Oh man...
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Old 12-21-2013, 07:23 PM   #17
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Supras are ricey af.
No.
I take it you have never seen a clean supra (of any generation).
The MKIV "homemade turbos" that go for 10-15 grand... yes they are about as much garbage as a 323ci with M3 scoops, badge, CF hood, hella-fail and nastydip.
Pristine MKIV's with factory gte's and turbos going for 50K, no.
It all depends on what the owner(s)/tuners did to it

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If you put a 2jz engine in a bmw then you're a dousche.
And no. Depends on the execution of the swap.... which could end up to be poor in OP's case (due to lack of previous experience in doing such things). OP, provided you buy an E36, will it be your only car? And why do you want to do a 2JZ swap? Is it just for the sake of saying "2jz, no shit!" at random car meets? The M52BXX that comes standard in the E36 is good for moderate boost...while with high boost even Supra turbo owners recommend upgrading internals.

So I would say no... putting myself in OP's place I wouldnt do the swap.
I am not saying you (OP) shouldnt do it, maybe you are a much more mechanically inclined, talented, and motivated person than I am, and unlike me can get your ass off this forum and into the garage....
Because I cant judge a person over the internet based on a few posts, Im just giving my perspective.

I do however like the idea of getting an E36 M3. If you are looking for a "performance upgrade" to your automotive lifestyle, the E36 M3 is a great choice

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Old 12-21-2013, 08:48 PM   #18
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MKIV Supras are for mad JDM tyte yo fanboys. The motor is the only thing good about that car.

Huge ghey wing that doesn't actually give downforce, the huge front overhang, it single-handedly invented the rice craze.

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Old 12-21-2013, 08:58 PM   #19
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So you want to take out a twin-cam inline six just to put another one back in? Seems kinda pointless but whatever, your money.

Not sure what this kanban kid is going on about with his pink 22's though...
The new one would have a turbo, depending on what model e36 probably about 100 more hp stock. Better aftermarket support & it'd be alot easier to make power out of. If OP has the money & wants it why not? The only problem with the 2JZ & engines like it (RB26DETT etc. ) is the JDM kids in combination with there rarity stateside has driven the price up to were you're paying for the name.
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Old 12-22-2013, 05:51 AM   #20
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MKIV Supras are for mad JDM tyte yo fanboys. The motor is the only thing good about that car.

Huge ghey wing that doesn't actually give downforce, the huge front overhang, it single-handedly invented the rice craze.
there is much more BMW rice around here nowadays

Supra MK4 is great for WANGAN. When the playtime begins at 140mph; the 2J engine is basically a giant honda engine when tuned to make peak power; silly high RPM's are great for things like TX mile (was there 2009 there with a mad JDM TIZZITE Right hand drive single turbo MK4 supoopera)


The 2JZ engine is simple and easy to work on without setup tools; It's also a belt driven engine with very inexpensive consumable items; this is why broke drifters and those in 3rd world countries love it so much.

For the price of a vanos timing tool set and Self adjusting clutch tool of a e46 non-M you can purchase half the parts to rebuild a 2JZ from naked block; for third world / hack mechanics and drifters this is an easy answer.

A BMW NA6 + turbo can do similar but its costly to reconfigure the entire animal; E46 + 2jz swap is actually popular - arguably easier to install the 2J into a E46 than a E36; the engine bay has more space in the 46.
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