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Old 01-03-2014, 12:26 PM   #21
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Doesn't matter how smart the kids are in Asian countries - if they come up with a good idea they will come here to make it happen. With the dismal copyright laws in China only a moron would stay there to develop an innovative idea - it's a country of copy-cat factory owners and their 1.3 billion minions - ie. Chinese GDP per capita will never surpass $15k without the help of inflation.
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Old 01-03-2014, 02:22 PM   #24
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dont really care

ever meet some of those smart kids in Asia? know what the culture is like surrounding education in Asia? prospective jobs for most college grads in Asia? No thanks...
Except these Asian kids immigrate to the U.S. and become the workforce behind America's tech. While the majority of American youngsters meander meaninglessly doing low paying jobs.

All the sudden the demanding Asian education doesn't look so bad when it sets you up to be successful later on.
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These results are hardly shocking. I cringe every time someone posts an incorrect version of 'their', they're, there, or says 'would of/should of'. If we can't teach students basic grade four English, we aren't likely to be able to teach them anything else.

North Americans are falling behind because teachers aren't allowed to fail poorly performing students any more. We are creating more illiterate graduates every day.
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Except these Asian kids immigrate to the U.S. and become the workforce behind America's tech. While the majority of American youngsters meander meaninglessly doing low paying jobs.

All the sudden the demanding Asian education doesn't look so bad when it sets you up to be successful later on.
if they can immigrate yeah they may have better opportunities here, but that's only if they have the chance to. if you go back to asia, look at the number of college degree grads with no jobs. talk to any college student even in a technical degree, the consensus is the same: hard to find and low paying jobs even if they get a job in their technical field of choice.

and i'm happy i grew up here instead of in asia...no way i would survive in that kind of educational environment, i am way too ADD and have too many interests other than studying. and IMO the american way of learning (college education on, not talking about primary/secondary education) is more robust in some ways.

i haven't even mentioned how incredibly one-sided those students are who "succeed".
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and i'm happy i grew up here instead of in asia...no way i would survive in that kind of educational environment, i am way too ADD and have too many interests other than studying. and IMO the american way of learning (college education on, not talking about primary/secondary education) is more robust in some ways
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if they can immigrate yeah they may have better opportunities here, but that's only if they have the chance to. if you go back to asia, look at the number of college degree grads with no jobs. talk to any college student even in a technical degree, the consensus is the same: hard to find and low paying jobs even if they get a job in their technical field of choice.

and i'm happy i grew up here instead of in asia...no way i would survive in that kind of educational environment, i am way too ADD and have too many interests other than studying. and IMO the american way of learning (college education on, not talking about primary/secondary education) is more robust in some ways.

i haven't even mentioned how incredibly one-sided those students are who "succeed".
Do you know how big Asia is? Define 'american' way of learning and its 'robustness'?
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Do you know how big Asia is? Define 'american' way of learning and its 'robustness'?


being able to learn and apply concepts in a manipulable and creative fashion rather than rote memorization & studying off Q banks


granted, my experience is based off family members & friends in taiwan, but the pressure/culture/system there is generalizable to a lot of asia. and yes i have more than a few family members who are in/have graduated from the top universities/HS/programs there (e.g. NTU medicine).
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being able to learn and apply concepts in a manipulable and creative fashion rather than rote memorization & studying off Q banks


granted, my experience is based off family members & friends in taiwan, but the pressure/culture/system there is generalizable to a lot of asia. and yes i have more than a few family members who are in/have graduated from the top universities/HS/programs there (e.g. NTU medicine).
I think we found the issue in your logic.

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Please define this? Sounds hyper vague and non definitive.
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I think we found the issue in your logic.



Please define this? Sounds hyper vague and non definitive.
maybe you are right, maybe not, either way im sure we'd love to hear your input.

it is vague because it is the result of a different style of teaching which shows up in many ways
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Lets keep it that way, keeps plenty of jobs open for us mathies. That's right kids, go to school and get a business major plsthx
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Until we get rid of grade inflation and encourage careers in math and science instead of encouraging people to go into management, we will continue to lag behind.....
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maybe you are right, maybe not, either way im sure we'd love to hear your input.

it is vague because it is the result of a different style of teaching which shows up in many ways
Why should I? The article explains the poor education that we have in the US pretty well. Numbers don't lie.

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if we privatized all the schools, everything would be better.
Actually yes, that would work quite well.
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