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Old 01-03-2014, 01:51 PM   #21
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Why the fvck would anyone write an article with so little evidence and so much hearsay, doubt and speculation?!
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Couldn't he have just shot them?
It's possible he did. Maybe he shot them because that's easier, but then made up this story in order to add some gruesome terror. Maybe he shot them and someone else made up this story, either to try to discredit him, or to strike additional fear into those that consider opposing him.
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It's possible he did. Maybe he shot them because that's easier, but then made up this story in order to add some gruesome terror. Maybe he shot them and someone else made up this story, either to try to discredit him, or to strike additional fear into those that consider opposing him.
What kind of man would even circulate a story like this even if it was not true?

Remember, this is the same man that executed 90 people last month, in public; observed by 10k local citizens that were ordered to appear in the city square. And they were executed for such crimes as listening to western music on the radio and watching contraband dvd's.

And this is the same man that had one of his General's executed by tying him to a post and having them drop artillery pieces on him.

Who the heck 'trains ' dogs to eat people and keeps 300 of them if they do not intend to use them ?
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No doubt the unconfirmed report came from the same sources that feed OP's alien spacecraft proof postings.

And this assumes there are dozens of dogs left in North Korea...

Even though feeding enemies to dogs is not totally a bad idea...
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He's a baaaaaad man. We should invade NK - stat.

Right, tex?
NO, Lair we shouldn't.

But, they do have a successful nuclear program with 10 bombs.
They are working on a missile program to reach the U.S. and they HAVE threatened to nuke Los Angeles as well as Tokyo and Seoul.

It would make good sense to send some cruise missiles their way to destroy their nuclear program and if one of them hits the house where Kim Jung Un lays his pretty head, that's ok.

It makes much, much more sense to bomb NK who has threatened us with nukes than Syria, Egypt , Tunisia or Iran. None of which have threatened the U.S.

But.......I will also be the first to suggest that we pull our soldiers back from overseas and return them home......

But , one day NK will have MORE nukes, they will have missiles to deliver them and then they will be a valid threat. THEN, we will wonder why we sat by and did nothing while they were building up their arsenal.

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No doubt the unconfirmed report came from the same sources that feed OP's alien spacecraft proof postings.

And this assumes there are dozens of dogs left in North Korea...

Even though feeding enemies to dogs is not totally a bad idea...




It's cheaper than keeping them at Guantanamo Bay.
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No doubt the unconfirmed report came from the same sources that feed OP's alien spacecraft proof postings.

And this assumes there are dozens of dogs left in North Korea...

Even though feeding enemies to dogs is not totally a bad idea...



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I see no reason to attack NK. A small precision US attack has no guarantees that it would remain isolated and not spiral out of control. The potential of an excessive casualties and regional destabilization remain high.
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If you've been on the Internet at all today, you've almost certainly seen the story claiming that North Korean leader Kim Jong Un had his uncle executed last month by stripping him naked and feeding him to 120 hungry dogs. The story was first reported by a minor Hong Kong outlet on Dec. 12, was picked up by a Singaporean newspaper on Dec. 24 and since late Thursday has been sweeping through nearly every corner of the U.S. media. The only problem is that it's probably - probably - not true.
It was indeed a big surprise last month when South Korean intelligence revealed that Kim had purged his own uncle, Jang Song Thaek, which North Korea confirmed a couple of days later with a long screed in its state media. The highly public nature of the purge, which ended with Pyongyang announcing Jang's execution, was totally unprecedented and legitimately shocking, which is a high bar for North Korea news.
Crazy-sounding stories happen with some frequency in North Korea, where the government has a well-earned reputation for taking political punishments to medieval extremes. But there are five big reasons that this story just does not seem particularly plausible. The fact that the Western media have so widely accepted a story they would reject if it came out of any other country tells us a lot about how North Korea is covered -- and how it's misunderstood.
First and foremost, let's consider the source. The story originated in a Hong Kong newspaper called Wen Wei Po, which oddly makes the claim without citing a source. With a couple of high-quality exceptions, Hong Kong media have a reputation for sensationalist and tabloidy stories that do not always turn out to be true. But, even by Hong Kong standards, Wen Wei Po is considered an unusually unreliable outlet. A recent study found that, out of Hong Kong's 21 newspapers, Wen Wei Po ranks 19th for credibility. (Thanks to Asia-watcher Taylor Washburn for flagging this.)
Second, consider the fact that the rest of the Chinese media have not touched this story in the almost-month since it came out. Some observers are treating the story as credible because Wen Wei Po is aligned with the Chinese government in Beijing; if anyone would know what really happened in Pyongyang, it would probably be the Chinese government, right? But Wen Wei Po is not anywhere near as close to China's power centers as official outlets such as Xinhua and the People's Daily. The entire remainder of the Chinese media have been sticking to the same story that everyone else has: that Jang was killed by either machine gun or anti-aircraft guns (the two could plausibly be conflated). China has not been shy about expressing its displeasure with North Korea lately, but the fact that little Wen Wei Po is all alone on this story should tell us something.
Third, South Korea's media have also not touched the story. "This story has hardly been picked up on by Korean media which is one reason to be suspicious," Chad O'Carroll, who edits the news site NKNews.org (their invaluable e-mail newsletter is here), told me via e-mail. "The other reason to be suspicious is because the rumor surfaced ages ago -- but no one paid attention to it," he said. South Korean media are quite plugged in to North Korean defector communities, to sources still in the country and most especially to South Korea's intelligence agency. Some of those outlets can be eager to pick up stories or rumors that portray North Korea in a negative light. And, as O'Carroll pointed out, they're not shy about running single-source stories. But South Korea's many news outlets, big and small, seem to be treating this story as so implausible it's not even worth mentioning. And they would know.
Fourth, the time lapse: this story has been around for almost a month, and it's not been anywhere near confirmed. That alone is not surprising, but the fact that Asia's many media circles have not even deigned to acknowledge the report is pretty telling. You might say that Asian media are treating it the way U.S. outlets respond when the National Enquirer reports that Hillary Clinton is ensnared in a sex scandal -- by ignoring it.
Fifth, the predominant story of what happened is much more plausible. It's not as though we're operating completely in the dark about Jang's execution. Far more credible outlets with far more credible sourcing have consistently described Jang as having been executed by firing squad; typically he is said to have been killed by anti-aircraft guns, though sometimes that is rounded down to machine guns. This is just much more consistent with what we know about North Korea. "He was in a military tribunal so it seems logical he would be executed by firing squad," O'Carroll said. The fact that South Korea's better-sourced and more credible media outlets continue to maintain that Jang was executed by firing squad, and not by 120 hungry dogs, as reported by a lone Hong Kong newspaper, should really underscore which version of events is more likely.
Sixth, as the satirist Karl Sharro put it, "The clue about the story of Kim Jong Un's uncle being fed to 120 hundred dogs being false is who has time to count dogs at a time like that." Okay, so that's not a real reason to disbelieve the story. But it was too funny not to include.
But all of this raises the question: why are so many people - and so many major U.S. media outlets - still willing to treat this implausible story as plausible? This seems to be a problem particular to stories out of North Korea, about which almost any story is treated as broadly credible, no matter how outlandish or thinly sourced. There's no other country to which we bring such a high degree of gullibility.
A friend who's covered North Korea for several years and has visited the country, Isaac Stone Fish, now of Foreign Policy, once joked to me that as an American journalist you can write almost anything you want about North Korea and people will just accept it. Call it the Stone Fish Theory of North Korea coverage. We know so little about what really happens inside the country, and especially inside the leader's head, that very little is disprovable. But the things we do know are often so bizarre that just about anything can seem possible.
And, there's no getting around this, we in the media have a certain incentive to pick these stories up. "As you know, NK stories tend to get a lot of hits, so its easy to see why editors will want to pursue these stories," O'Carroll said. "I guess editors feel it is more legitimate to publish unverifiable, sensationalist information on North Korea because they can always fall back on the defense: 'How could we check? North Korea is so closed.' "
There's also a lost-in-translation element to American credulity about outlandish stories out of North Korea; to some degree, we fall victim to our own ignorance of how that society actually works. As I wrote in 2012 when the U.S. media were briefly aflame with nonsensical rumors that Kim had been assassinated in Beijing, the images out of the country are so bizarre and hard information so scant that there's little to prevent our imaginations from running wild. We are ready to believe anything.
Still, the thing about this story and so many others like it from North Korea is that there is a chance, however remote, that it could still be true. Yes, there is an awful lot of evidence suggesting it's probably false, but this being North Korea, there are also some reasons to allow for its plausibility.
"Bottom line is: unlikely but I can't rule it out," O'Carroll, whose NKNews site is known for its sober and careful coverage of North Korea, acknowledged. "While this one definitely feels exaggerated, who knows? With North Korea's KCNA publishing films showing the destruction of effigies of [former South Korean President] Lee Myung-bak by hungry dogs last year, and of course publishing several cartoons depicting the gruesome death of the same president, at least parts of the story could be within the realm of true. Don't forget the North Koreans even hosted competitions last year to think up the most gruesome way to kill 'Traitor' [Lee Myung-bak]; the prize? The winner could carry out that particular death sentence!"
Ultimately, while North Korea-watchers are certainly not buying this story, O'Carroll wouldn't take the bait when I gave him an opportunity to scold American outlets for picking it up. He asked me, rhetorically: "What are editors meant to do? Ignore a story because it 'feels' wrong, but could end up later to be true? I don't know."
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I was referencing Kim Jung Un........I think it is true.........they did not think the concentration camps of WW2 were real either , until the war was over.

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Well he does value family. Seems Kim Kyong-hui (Thaek's wife) was spared. ....
The wife is Un's aunt.

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NO, Lair we shouldn't.

But, they do have a successful nuclear program with 10 bombs.
They are working on a missile program to reach the U.S. and they HAVE threatened to nuke Los Angeles as well as Tokyo and Seoul.

It would make good sense to send some cruise missiles their way to destroy their nuclear program and if one of them hits the house where Kim Jung Un lays his pretty head, that's ok.

It makes much, much more sense to bomb NK who has threatened us with nukes than Syria, Egypt , Tunisia or Iran. None of which have threatened the U.S.

But.......I will also be the first to suggest that we pull our soldiers back from overseas and return them home......

But , one day NK will have MORE nukes, they will have missiles to deliver them and then they will be a valid threat. THEN, we will wonder why we sat by and did nothing while they were building up their arsenal.

Every administration keeps passing the buck down the line.
We can't bomb NK. They have every missile and bomb aimed at SK.

They are still at war, and NK could wipe out most of SK. It would be suicide, but it is possible.

Without China, we are powerless to change NK. Short of annihilation that is.
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