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Old 01-05-2014, 10:43 AM   #1
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What is wrong with my wheels?

I can't figure out what is wrong with wheels on my car, and this thread made me question wheels even more.

Wheels on my car
Front 19x8.5 ET35 with 225/35/19
Height: (225*0.35)*2 + 483 = 641mm
Rear 19.9.5 ET35 with 255/30/19
Height: (255*0.3)*2 + 483 = 637mm

Wheels on LudwigPT's ex-E46
Front 19x9.5 ET32 with 225/35/19
Rear 19x10 ET22 with 225/35/19
Height: (225*0.35)*2 + 483 = 641mm

Now look at wheel well space on his e46 and on mine.



Both of the cars, his and mine, have M3 rear quarter panels, and I don't understand how my car has more wheel well space to fill, heightwise, than his.
The only two possible explanations are lower drop or rear panels were done differently, which I doubt would affect wheel well space.

My problem with my wheels is that wheel well is not filled leaving a gap, even with spacers.
Pretty sure I can go with 255/40/19 in rear and have 0 rubbing problem.

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Old 01-05-2014, 10:50 AM   #2
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And doesn't have the stupid M gills on his sedan. Stahp it.
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Old 01-05-2014, 10:55 AM   #3
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What is wrong with my wheels?

You're asking why you have space between the fender and the tire, correct?
I don't know much about wheels, but won't offset have something to do with it? I mean, there a 13 offset difference between your rears and his rears...he is also running a bit wider wheel, but not by much. I would say offset is your troublemaker here.

If you're asking why you have finger-space between the top of your wheel and the fender, then I would suspect a drop on ludWigs car.


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Wheels too big.
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Car too low/handling greatly reduced and compromised.
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Old 01-05-2014, 11:03 AM   #5
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Fronts are the same, and sidewall on my rears is millimeters lower.

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I have 20mm spacers (should of went with 15mm), which theoretically lowers offset to 15mm. Compare 10" ET22 and 9.5" ET15 and you get 13mm more inner clearance and 9.5" extends 1mm further.

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Could be either one, but looking at spacing between sideskirt and ground, it doesn't look like there is much difference. Although camber could be the reason.

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And doesn't have the stupid M gills on his sedan. Stahp it.
Ohh snap, you got me. Don't worry I don't plan on lowering the value of your m3 by putting M3 badges on my car.
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^that m3 value is already not good IMO. torn subframe, butchered front bumper fitment, and replaced OE xenon with $20 chop suey DDM HID
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Fronts are the same, and sidewall on my rears is millimeters lower.

That'll do it in the back. There's a big difference, even if it's "only" millimeters lower.
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Fronts are the same, and sidewall on my rears is millimeters lower.


I have 20mm spacers (should of went with 15mm), which theoretically lowers offset to 15mm. Compare 10" ET22 and 9.5" ET15 and you get 13mm more inner clearance and 9.5" extends 1mm further.


Could be either one, but looking at spacing between sideskirt and ground, it doesn't look like there is much difference. Although camber could be the reason.



Ohh snap, you got me. Don't worry I don't plan on lowering the value of your m3 by putting M3 badges on my car.

No. You may have the same size tires but his is on a wider wheel. Giving him the stretched stancebro look. Just because you are pushing the wheel outwards does not give you the concave look like his car has. The camber will have a lot to do with it.
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They're too chrome. Ditch the chrome thing and go with whatever that color is every alloy wheel uses.
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Considering what happens when most young people finance an E46, I'd say ChrisRedmon is a pretty darn good success story. 'spect
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Considering what happens when most young people finance an E46, I'd say ChrisRedmon is a pretty darn good success story. 'spect


But seriously OP, if you want that look. Find out what suspension and alignment specs he was dialed in at. You will never truly get that look without those wheel offsets though. Goodluck
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I forgot that that car is also financed
Dude seriously? I forgot how outrageously persistent you are in an attempt to make someone look foolish. I apologize on his behalf OP for ruining your thread like he does so many others. I have >2000$ left, Mango. Thats nothing. What is your problem? I am young building my credit. Please, go outside. See the sun. Get a girlfriend. Or some lotion. Just please..... tone down the super patriot A++ sport Supercalifragilisticexpialidociousness for the sake of everyone maintaining their sanity.



The fact that you haven't been banned blows my mind. But at the same time, you probably need this website way more than it needs you.
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huh? im not talkin about you. there was someone in another thread not too long ago. geeze
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They're too chrome. Ditch the chrome thing and go with whatever that color is every alloy wheel uses.
I wouldn't say that they are chrome, but more like machined aluminum
For what it's worth, I got them for cheap price, and they were like brand new, not a single curb rash. A year later I still have not a single clue what's the brand or the style, and I have seen them only on e9x once. They fit e9x better than e46.

But back on topic, do you have any input regarding the wheel well space?

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No. You may have the same size tires but his is on a wider wheel. Giving him the stretched stancebro look. Just because you are pushing the wheel outwards does not give you the concave look like his car has. The camber will have a lot to do with it.
I still don't understand how stretched tires on wider wheels can fill out wheel well so much. Camber, yes I do see how that might change the look, so I am going to see if OP posts camber specs.
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The only two possible explanations are lower drop or rear panels were done differently, which I doubt would affect wheel well space.
There you have it. If you don't have the same drop it would obviously affect this. Do you have the exact suspension setup on both cars?
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Well the wider wheel is self explanatory. When you stretch the tire it allows you to run that much more negative camber and be that much lower without rubbing. He is also probably running spacers. His set up obviously took a lot of measurements and guess & testing. First get his specs
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tbh wheels aren't my thing, I don't know dick about offsets and all that. If I am looking at wheels I look up the offset on my car and try to find the same :p it's just not something I've researched really at all. I just look more at style and color.
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SO for starters, let's look at the back. Your wheels are .5" narrower. If both wheels were the same offset, that's .25" you're losing right there, which is roughly 6mm. But here's the real difference - your wheels are +35mm and his are +22mm. That's 13mm. Your wheels are a total of 19mm in farther than his wheels. Either you can't do math or you don't know how offsets work. The lower the number (or more negative), the farther the wheel sticks out.

And your cars are clearly not the same ride height. Not even close. Your car looks like a monster truck compared to his.
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