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Old 01-14-2014, 03:17 AM   #61
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Give everyone walking into the theatre a loaded gun. Then nobody will be impolite or dare cause any ruckus. Wear your monocle because it will be the most civilized place to be.
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Old 01-14-2014, 06:08 AM   #62
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I think everyone should own a gun but I never understood the need to take a gun with you to certain places. It bothers me that while I am furiously eating popcorn there is person with a gun next to me. I also wouldn't want checks or something invasive at a theater because that sounds stupid.
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Old 01-14-2014, 06:56 AM   #63
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If the old guy was sitting in front of the victim, how would he know he was texting?
If anything, the people behind him would have been bothered, no?

Sounds like the old guy was looking for a confrontation to begin with.

I'll bet if he didn't have a gun, he wouldn't have had the balls to say anything.
A lot of people think their tough when they carry a gun.
Their not, just scared to take an ass whippin for their loud mouth.
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Too bad, preventing gun violence in US is like preventing muslim turning into terrorist in muslim countries.
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I hate movie theaters. I refuse to go to them anymore.

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If the old guy was sitting in front of the victim, how would he know he was texting?
If anything, the people behind him would have been bothered, no?

Sounds like the old guy was looking for a confrontation to begin with.

I'll bet if he didn't have a gun, he wouldn't have had the balls to say anything.
A lot of people think their tough when they carry a gun.
Their not, just scared to take an ass whippin for their loud mouth.
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If the old guy was sitting in front of the victim, how would he know he was texting?
If anything, the people behind him would have been bothered, no?

Sounds like the old guy was looking for a confrontation to begin with.

I'll bet if he didn't have a gun, he wouldn't have had the balls to say anything.
A lot of people think their tough when they carry a gun.
Their not, just scared to take an ass whippin for their loud mouth.
*They're

"The Oulsons were sitting in front of Reeves and his wife, and Chad Oulson was texting as they waited for the movie to begin, the sheriff’s office said. Detectives said Reeves asked Oulson several times to stop."

Reading comprehension is a hell of a thing, you ought to try it sometime...

"Detectives said Reeves asked Oulson several times to stop."

At that point, shooting Oulson was probably a kindness. Disembowelment would have been better...

I keed, I keed. Seriously: No way in hell would I condone physical violence against some thoughtless asshole, much less deadly force (I carry, and I know the awesome responsibilities such a privilege has attached to it).

But at some point, when a patron repeatedly asks someone to stop doing something obnoxious and probably forbidden by the theater, some of the blame for the escalation has to be shifted to the proximate cause of the incident.

"Reeves eventually left the theater to complain to staff. When he returned, Oulson asked if Reeves had reported him to management, the sheriff’s office said. The two began to argue and Reeves pulled out a gun and shot Oulson in the chest, the sheriff’s office reported."

Again: Not defending the shooter (would never), but I can understand the incident and how it developed. Before anything else is said, we would need to know what Oulson did to incite Reeves, a police veteran, to clear leather and start blasting. There's a lot of unspoken history there in the word "and..."

A poser for gun haters: In a world where there is a likelihood that the guy next to you is carrying, there might be a bit more respect to pass around, no?
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I think everyone should own a gun but I never understood the need to take a gun with you to certain places. It bothers me that while I am furiously eating popcorn there is person with a gun next to me. I also wouldn't want checks or something invasive at a theater because that sounds stupid.
No point in having the gun if you don't have it when you need it. Movie theaters have been a target in the past and they're not isolated from stupid and crazy people, as evidenced by this very story. We carry guns just like our cell phones; it's part of our daily wardrobe. And because it's concealed, you and the rest of the population generally don't know that the guy next to you eating popcorn is strapped.

You're going to be in a pretty tough position to dictate otherwise where people can carry. The philosophy of most of us who carry is that it's better be judged by 6-12 than carried by 6. A sign probably won't deter people from doing it, certainly not maniacs looking to do harm.

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If the old guy was sitting in front of the victim, how would he know he was texting?
If anything, the people behind him would have been bothered, no?

Sounds like the old guy was looking for a confrontation to begin with.

I'll bet if he didn't have a gun, he wouldn't have had the balls to say anything.
A lot of people think their tough when they carry a gun.
Their not, just scared to take an ass whippin for their loud mouth.
I have to re-read to article to be sure, but I thought the victim was sitting in front of the shooter? I'll have to check in that.

And one more thing. Regarding your assertion that concealed carry people are more arrogant or macho or go lookin for a fight. That's totally ridiculous. I think if you do some research in that area, which there have been plenty of articles, you'll find it's exactly the opposite. If anything, we're more polite generally than the average person. We don't go looking for a fight...I certainly don't. You think that all of us have some unquenched desire to kill or cause maher because we carry a gun? I certainly never want to be in that position, but u carry to protect myself and those I love. I dread the prospect of ever having to use it and avoid dangerous situations and conversations more vigilantly. Your assertion sounds like a load of sh1t to me.
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Still, one death amongst millions of movie show times since aurora and the gun grabbers will be screaming that this is cause to ban guns from movie theaters, etc.
I'd be satisfied if we could finally admit to ourselves that more guns is not the solution.

One dead father of a 3-year-old today. Two months ago, another completely senseless death much closer to home:
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A guy I know got killed two weeks ago by his friend in the middle of the street after leaving a club together. Witnesses say they got in an argument. 27 year old kid. College graduate. Executive position. Down in town for a wedding. Shot in the chest four times by his own friend.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publics...rsburg/2151698
So, yes, there's one death here and another there, and that's just what's in close proximity and/or people I know. A woman I worked with on a daily basis was shot and killed by the husband she was separated from.

So, yes, I get the updates on facebook of a burglary prevented and a criminal shot here and there, but I don't know of any cases in my area that are personally connected to me. I know of several cases where people died or got shot at for no good reason, where guns weren't even the least bit helpful in diffusing the situation.

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If you're honest with yourself, a movie theater is a place that most gun owners who carry daily would prefer to carry in/make it high priority. A) it's been a past target (Aurora). B). They're death traps if an active murdering maniac gets in. They have one way out basically, they have limited cover or space in which to be able to move and escape. They're dark. Honestly, you're a sitting duck when you're in there.
This mentality confounds me. Not only are the odds of another similar attack infinitely small, but the odds of anyone being able to make a difference in such a situation are tiny as well. Second, if you're that fvcking scared of going to a movie theater, stick to Netflix.

Yes, I know, JonJon carries Lara Croft's survival pack to the movie theater. He can set up a turret, dig a tunnel and purify his own piss within 3 seconds of a fired shot.
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No point in having the gun if you don't have it when you need it. Movie theaters have been a target in the past and they're not isolated from stupid and crazy people, as evidenced by this very story.
We need more guns to defend us from people with guns.

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We carry guns just like our cell phones; it's part of our daily wardrobe. And because it's concealed, you and the rest of the population generally don't know that the guy next to you eating popcorn is strapped.
Until you text before a movie even starts, get in an argument, get separated from you significant other. Then you might find out that someone has a gun.

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You're going to be in a pretty tough position to dictate otherwise where people can carry. The philosophy of most of us who carry is that it's better be judged by 6-12 than carried by 6. A sign probably won't deter people from doing it, certainly not maniacs looking to do harm.
Maybe so. But the idea that more guns = more safety just doesn't compute.

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And one more thing. Regarding your assertion that concealed carry people are more arrogant or macho or go lookin for a fight. That's totally ridiculous. I think if you do some research in that area, which there have been plenty of articles, you'll find it's exactly the opposite. If anything, we're more polite generally than the average person. We don't go looking for a fight...I certainly don't. You think that all of us have some unquenched desire to kill or cause maher because we carry a gun? I certainly never want to be in that position, but u carry to protect myself and those I love. I dread the prospect of ever having to use it and avoid dangerous situations and conversations more vigilantly. Your assertion sounds like a load of sh1t to me.
So, you think you'll ever need to use it?
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So if I read the article correctly the wife/gf of the aggressor was shot in the hand.

You have to ask why is that. Was she trying to catch the bullet? Or, more likely, was she trying to restrain her 280 pound husband/bf from pounding the living **** out of this 71 year old man?

Oulsen could have snapped the retired officer in two.

Good shoot.

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So if I read the article correctly the wife/gf of the aggressor was shot in the hand.

You have to ask why is that. Was she trying to catch the bullet? Or, more likely, was she trying to restrain her 280 pound husband/bf from pounding the living **** out of this 71 year old man?

Oulsen could have snapped the retired officer in two.

Good shoot.

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Regarding your assertion that concealed carry people are more arrogant or macho or go lookin for a fight. That's totally ridiculous. I think if you do some research in that area, which there have been plenty of articles, you'll find it's exactly the opposite. If anything, we're more polite generally than the average person. We don't go looking for a fight...I certainly don't. You think that all of us have some unquenched desire to kill or cause maher because we carry a gun? I certainly never want to be in that position, but u carry to protect myself and those I love. I dread the prospect of ever having to use it and avoid dangerous situations and conversations more vigilantly. Your assertion sounds like a load of sh1t to me.
...is hard to believe.
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make the theater a gun free zone, problem solved.
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Yeah, I'll bet a bunch were killed in Chicago and DC. Wait, no, I'm lying. Those are gun free zones. Just like movie theatres.
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So if I read the article correctly the wife/gf of the aggressor was shot in the hand.

You have to ask why is that. Was she trying to catch the bullet? Or, more likely, was she trying to restrain her 280 pound husband/bf from pounding the living **** out of this 71 year old man?

Oulsen could have snapped the retired officer in two.

Good shoot.

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I seriously laughed at this

Lol thx

Edit: I read it without the "founding". Did you edit it?
Funny retracted
Frowny face =(

But we all know the real problem here.

The theater was a cell-phone free zone.

But was it a popcorn-hando free zone?
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what facts? there was a gun involved so now these idiots have something to debate.
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