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Old 02-03-2014, 04:15 PM   #61
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And yet you're a blue voter.

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Me??! A mother****ing libtard? Hell the **** no
My mom works for Coca Cola
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Old 02-03-2014, 04:15 PM   #62
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Maybe Coke just wants a more aggressive advertising campaign towards people who speak "poor people languages"?


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Old 02-03-2014, 04:16 PM   #63
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When it becomes a question of economics? Absolutely.
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Old 02-03-2014, 04:16 PM   #64
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No I think it's fine to speak the language. Speak whatever language you want. I don't care. I'm actually trying to learn Spanish now. But I don't want American billboards to be in another language in 20 years. I don't want highway signs to have 3 different languages to them. I don't want them to count down the ball in NYC as uno doce tres.


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Remember what Teddy Roosevelt said?

"Every immigrant who comes here should be required within five years to learn English or leave the country."

In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American. If he tries to keep segregated with men of his own origin and separated from the rest of America, then he isn't doing his part as an American.

There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile.

We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language for we intend to see that the crucible turns our people out as Americans, and American nationality, and not as dwellers in a polyglot boarding house; and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

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When it becomes a question of economics? Absolutely.
So a static paradigm is the key to economic success?


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Me??! A mother****ing libtard? Hell the **** no
My mom works for Coca Cola
Oh ok then.

I am still working out who drinks the koolaid around here, and who doesn't.
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I don't want them to count down the ball in NYC as uno doce tres.
Wouldn't it be "tres! Dos! Uno! Feliz ao nuevo!!!!!
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No, pragmatism is the key to economic success.

There are a shitton more poors than "wealthy" (realise this means middle class on up in the US) people. If we are to improve the poors quality of life, the money has to come from somewhere. I for one would much rather have the free cash to purchase a new BMW here in a few years, take my family on vacations, enjoy a great life than have my cash taxed and redistributed to the untold masses of poors the world over.

Its all about supply and demand my friend.
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Wouldn't it be "tres! Dos! Uno! Feliz ao nuevo!!!!!
Yes. Damn it's already in the works


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No, pragmatism is the key to economic success.

There are a shitton more poors than "wealthy" (realise this means middle class on up in the US) people. If we are to improve the poors quality of life, the money has to come from somewhere. I for one would much rather have the free cash to purchase a new BMW here in a few years, take my family on vacations, enjoy a great life than have my cash taxed and redistributed to the untold masses of poors the world over.

Its all about supply and demand my friend.
So you think coke used "poor people languages" to advocate wealth redistribution?


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So you think coke used "poor people languages" to advocate wealth redistribution?
Not necessarily. I think they used it to make us see various groups of people as being "more American."
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Not necessarily. I think they used it to make us see various groups of people as being "more American."
What do you mean "more American"? We're they "less American" before? Why?


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I see what you are doing. Well played.

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I see what you are doing. Well played.

How do you like your Impala? How is the build quality?
What am I doing?

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Why?

I'm fine with the commercial, to clarify. But I do get upset when I see billboard in all Spanish. Feels like the push for immigrants to learn English is non existent. Why?

To give you an example a co-worker of mine has lived in California over 20 years and doesn't speak English. When I asked him why he doesn't want to speak English his reply was "I don't have to, everywhere I got someone always speaks Spanish or someone will translate for me". The silver lining in this is that learned Spanish to communicate with him. I obviously don't regret learning Spanish but that isn't right. So when a commercial like that come on, yes it feels like learning English is a thing of the past.
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I thought the commercial was good. America is not a homogeneous regardless of some people's wishes or ideas regarding its design. I just saw the commercial as IDGAF about the superbowl and didnt watch it.
This.

I agree that the commercial portrays the diversity of America, and that America has people from many lands that come here in pursuit of a better life.

That said, it's just a commercial and I don't really care - especially not in the sense to have a Twitter war over it.

People are always going to hate. There will always be the intolerant, xenophobic, and ignorant. Not going to waste my time arguing with such people over the internet.
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I'm fine with the commercial, to clarify. But I do get upset when I see billboard in all Spanish. Feels like the push for immigrants to learn English is non existent. Why?

To give you an example a co-worker of mine has lived in California over 20 years and doesn't speak English. When I asked him why he doesn't want to speak English his reply was "I don't have to, everywhere I got someone always speaks Spanish or someone will translate for me". The silver lining in this is that learned Spanish to communicate with him. I obviously don't regret learning Spanish but that isn't right. So when a commercial like that come on, yes it feels like learning English is a thing of the past.
Why is that not right? Companies have the right to do business in whatever language(s) will allow them to make money. In the US, it's greatly beneficial for companies to be able to do business in multiple languages.


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This.

I agree that the commercial portrays the diversity of America, and that America has people from many lands that come here in pursuit of a better life.

That said, it's just a commercial and I don't really care - especially not in the sense to have a Twitter war over it.

People are always going to hate. There will always be the intolerant, xenophobic, and ignorant. Not going to waste my time arguing with such people over the internet (caveat: unless it's marshmallow).
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I thought the commercial was fine. It shows how diverse and tolerant the USA is. With that said, it was the national anthem. It's a source of pride and unity for Americans. I can see why people are upset about it and I wouldn't argue against them. They have a right to be upset.
what??!

America the Beautiful is not the national anthem. The Star Spangled Banner is.

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