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Old 02-06-2014, 09:00 PM   #1
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National Republican Congressional Campaign using fake Democrat websites to lure voter

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A warning this election season: If you are searching the Web for information on Democratic congressional candidates, read the fine print.

At least 15 websites that appear to be official campaign sites for Democratic candidates, are actually the handiwork of the National Republican Congressional Committee.

In an effort to improve their online efforts this election season, the NRCC's digital team came up with what the group believes is a great idea: get out the Republican message through fake Democrat sites.

"The idea is people who are looking for information on the candidate, one of the places we all go now is online and so this is a way for folks to find out more about the candidates and information they may not find on the candidate's own site," said Daniel Scarpinato, the NRCC's press secretary.

The NRCC bought up hundreds of URLs on potential weak Democratic candidates and created sites that mimic the real ones.

It may sound deceiving, but Scarpinato insists the well-thought out, well-planned program is pure genius.

"Well, we are very proud of this program."

Montana Democratic congressional candidate John Lewis has a different opinion.

Lewis is one of the Democrats who Republicans have targeted with their own site called JohnLewis4congress.com.

"I have seen a lot of unfortunate uses of deception in the last few elections," Lewis told CNN. "This is just another in a long list of that."

Lewis said Montana voters will be able to "see right through a website that is based on deception." Still he bemoans what he calls outside interests backed by "dark money" trying to trick voters in his state.

Scarpinato at the NRCC says there are no tricks at all and disputes anyone's claim that the sites are deceptive.

"I think that sites are clear in terms of the disclosure and the content where were coming from," Scarpinato said. "And I also think it's important for voters to get all the perspectives on the candidates. So just as a candidate is going to put information out about themselves, we're going to put out information about the candidate that they are not putting out that we think is important for voters to know."

And to do that, the National Republican Congressional Campaign says it will expand its building of fake sites.

Do Democrats do it, too?

The NRCC press secretary told us the Republican strategy is cleverer, but that Democrats have done the same thing.

One day after CNN's interview Scarpinato directed CNN to a site mocking a Republican built by the Florida State Democratic Party, which the national Democrat Congressional Campaign Committee insists it had nothing to do with.

In a statement to CNN, the DCCC wrote, "It is not the DCCC's practice to make websites that could be confused with the opponents site."

Undeterred, the National Republican Congressional Committee thinks it has a winner and will create more fake websites as the 2014 midterm elections draw near.


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Old 02-06-2014, 09:04 PM   #2
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Both sides are shady as crap. If everyone posted up links to the "bad guys" doing something shady, then we'd have 57 new threads a day.
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Old 02-06-2014, 09:08 PM   #3
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Both sides are shady as crap. If everyone posted up links to the "bad guys" doing something shady, then we'd have 57 new threads a day.


This certainly hits a new low of shadiness. One groups shadiness shouldn't justify another.
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Old 02-06-2014, 09:11 PM   #4
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This certainly hits a new low of shadiness. One groups shadiness shouldn't justify another.
Yes, building digital straw men is materially worse, or a "new low and shadiness" when compared to double and triple voting via dead people, dogs, your pet gerbil.

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Old 02-06-2014, 09:17 PM   #5
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Old 02-06-2014, 09:26 PM   #6
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Yes, building digital straw men is materially worse, or a "new low and shadiness" when compared to double and triple voting via dead people, dogs, your pet gerbil.
Both sides have gotten out the vote via dead people, dogs, & your pet gerbil.

The more salient point is how close to online fraud is it, regardless of who's side is doing it. There is the entire argument on the "look&feel" of software and a web site can be defined as such. Not to mention copyright. Parody is protected as free speech. However, if the intent is possible & knowingly trying to subvert through mimicry that is not for the purposes of parody. The line on copyright infringement can be a thin one. There have been cases in the commercial arena with sites targeting corporations in a similar way.

Could it be that the alleged "pro-business" GOP could get hoisted with their own petard. That would be amusing. They supported corporations ability to protect themselves from this very activity. It would be poetic justice if they were foiled by the self-same.
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Both sides have gotten out the vote via dead people, dogs, & your pet gerbil.

The more salient point is how close to online fraud is it, regardless of who's side is doing it. There is the entire argument on the "look&feel" of software and a web site can be defined as such. Not to mention copyright. Parody is protected as free speech. However, if the intent is possible & knowingly trying to subvert through mimicry that is not for the purposes of parody. The line on copyright infringement can be a thin one. There have been cases in the commercial arena with sites targeting corporations in a similar way.

Could it be that the alleged "pro-business" GOP could get hoisted with their own petard. That would be amusing. They supported corporations ability to protect themselves from this very activity. It would be poetic justice if they were foiled by the self-same.
This is what I think about these sites. The purpose doesn't seem to discredit or attack the opposition but rather profit through deceiving their supporters. But I am sure the have consulted with enough of the legal fellows to create a site that dances on a thin line.
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This is what I think about these sites. The purpose doesn't seem to discredit or attack the opposition but rather profit through deceiving their supporters. But I am sure the have consulted with enough of the legal fellows to create a site that dances on a thin line.
While I think its super shady, deceiving stupid supporters because they are stupid is a tad hilarious at the same time.

http://www.khou.com/news/local/White...231222981.html

Come on, ^^^hilarious.
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Are you kidding, badfast? Like this is the worst thing that's ever happened in politics? I'll bet if a Democrat did this you would never have said anything about it.
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Are you kidding, badfast? Like this is the worst thing that's ever happened in politics? I'll bet if a Democrat did this you would never have said anything about it.
I bet if a Libertarian did this you wouldn't say anything about it, either.




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I find this sleazy, but also funny. Ideally this would not happen in our political discourse. But when we have the most powerful government agency in the US systematically and institutionally undermining legitimate political activity by one particular segment of the political spectrum, and there is not complete and total outrage from everyone in this country - regardless of political affiliation - then something like this doesn't really bother me for long.
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I find this sleazy, but also funny. Ideally this would not happen in our political discourse. But when we have the most powerful government agency in the US systematically and institutionally undermining legitimate political activity by one particular segment of the political spectrum, and there is not complete and total outrage from everyone in this country - regardless of political affiliation - then something like this doesn't really bother me for long.
The FBI did undermine legitimate liberal activity for years, but with J Edgar gone, they have lightened up.


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And I would agree that was absolutely intolerable. But at least in that instance, you had one wacko - J. Edgar Hoover - running that show and once he was gone, it ended for the most part (I am sure there were some lingering JEH sychophants after he left).

What is more troubling about this current IRS situation is that, rather than being a recent, short-term push by a power-hungry White House Administration (who will be gone at some point), this scandal is completely the result of the fox guarding the hen house, as well as staffing all of the positions in the hen house. The anti-anti-big government mentality is in the DNA of IRS bureaucrats. I don't see or believe any evidence exists that Obama directed this. But I also don't believe he had to. And I sure as hell see a lot of evidence that he is more than happy to let it continue, unabated.
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Internet shenanigans? impossible.

Hey what used to happen if you google Rick Santorum?
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This is what I think about these sites. The purpose doesn't seem to discredit or attack the opposition but rather profit through deceiving their supporters. But I am sure the have consulted with enough of the legal fellows to create a site that dances on a thin line.
I think it is absolute bull sh!t, and it needs to be stopped. Prosecute them to the highest degree of the law.

Both sides of this coin are filled with horrible people.
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My democrat mayor literally made up criminal allegations last week about my republican governor. MADE UP, COMPLETELY. Like out of thin air. Used her personally diary as the only form of evidence.

Both sides are guilty of this.
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My democrat mayor literally made up criminal allegations last week about my republican governor. MADE UP, COMPLETELY. Like out of thin air. Used her personally diary as the only form of evidence.

Both sides are guilty of this.
I am sure you have solid evidence to prove it was made up?
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This quote is interesting from the original post...

get out the Republican message through fake Democrat sites

Basically it seems that they are trying to get voters to vote based on ideology vs party lines. Im not sure thats such a bad thing (be it democrats or republicans.) A person voting based on policies is much better than voting simply for the democrats or the repubs. Hell, we should make voting a quiz. You answer a few questions on key issues, and the computer votes for the appropriate candidate. I have solved it!
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Is anyone surprised that republicans think fraud is "hilarious"?
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