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Old 02-09-2014, 02:10 PM   #21
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Just because the US doesn't experience starvation to the level of African states don't imply that no one in the US goes hungry.
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Where kids may indeed go to bed hungry...if the skank was dumb enough to have 15 kids, Im sure shes dumb enough to piss away her assistance money, but again, I believe they are isolated cases and not a "national problem." Passing legislation of any kind based on isolated cases (be it gun control, entitlements, etc) is not a recipe for successful results. We do need safety nets for those less fortunate and for those that fell on hard times, but it really needs to be true "assistance" not a livelyhood. Force those getting welfare to obtain a bachelor degree AND maintain a certain GPA, if not, work, whatever. Create "401Ks" for people so that they can't piss their money away, and only touch it for certain things. There are thousands of ideas we can go back and forth with as to how to actually help people, but handing out EBT cards isn't going to help anyone.
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Old 02-09-2014, 02:10 PM   #22
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No one is claiming that. The vast majority of those on public assistance do, and hurt the ones that are legitimately in a bad situations through no fault of their own. Being poor, then having 5 kids, then crying that you do not have enough is not "no fault of your own." Being an addict or having a substance abuse problem (including gambling and alcohol) is not "no fault of your own." Having a criminal record and no one wants to hire you is also not "no fault of your own."
I say fvcking should be regulated. No recreational fvcking. Fvcking not permitted for the poor. How about a one child policy for the poor or no child? Reproduction rights are for those that can afford it. Any violation of this policy will result in the child being punished for the actions of the parents. Generations of punishment. Who says communist states produce poor policies?

edit: your video link only reinforces my proposal.

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Old 02-09-2014, 02:13 PM   #23
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Not yet at least, thanks to Our various social programs and the Dems in the Senate and Prez holding fast against a devolution to feudalism and raw "law of the jungle" society.

Let the TPers and radical right have their way though, this is what it might look like just outside the closed gates of 1% communities (except the faces would be predominantly white and significantly GOP and Southern rather than the black inner city meme the GOP/TP have been insidiously implying since at least the sixties).
Typical libtard BS. Tell me, who feeds and clothes the most poor people in this country?
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Old 02-09-2014, 02:14 PM   #24
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Typical libtard BS. Tell me, who feeds and clothes the most poor people in this country?
The US government.
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Not yet at least, thanks to Our various social programs and the Dems in the Senate and Prez holding fast against a devolution to feudalism and raw "law of the jungle" society.

Let the TPers and radical right have their way though, this is what it might look like just outside the closed gates of 1% communities (except the faces would be predominantly white and significantly GOP and Southern rather than the black inner city meme the GOP/TP have been insidiously implying since at least the sixties).
Get over yourself. You honestly think wealthy Democratic politicians give a damn about who starves and who doesn't? It's like you live in a bubble and think every Republican is against humanity.
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I say fvcking should be regulated. No recreational fvcking. Fvcking not permitted for the poor. How about a one child policy for the poor or no child? Reproduction rights are for those that can afford it. Any violation of this policy will result in the child being punished for the actions of the parents. Generations of punishment. Who says communist states produce poor policies?

edit: your video link only reinforces my proposal.
No need for a one child policy, nor do I want to call for that. Jail time would be a start for having a child you can't support (endangering the welfare of a child), cut off financially from the government, etc. Your solution is to just hand out bigger checks...the more kids they have, the bigger the check. Working great!
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No need for a one child policy, nor do I want to call for that. Jail time would be a start for having a child you can't support (endangering the welfare of a child), cut off financially from the government, etc. Your solution is to just hand out bigger checks...the more kids they have, the bigger the check. Working great!
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Get over yourself. You honestly think wealthy Democratic politicians give a damn about who starves and who doesn't? It's like you live in a bubble and think every Republican is against humanity.
Far more so than the majority of GOP/TP politicians of late and those who truly do care beyond perfunctory lip service have been effectively muzzled lest they get the Rino label. I see very few in today's GOP with a genuine concern of, say, Jack Kemp.

I would say that far two many of both parties still ascribe far too closely with supply-side, tinkle-down economics which focuses its concerns far too narrowly on a well off few with some vague afterthought of hope that some of their soaring success may dribble over the rims of their crystal ware onto the economically parched lips of the majority of Americans (as surging wealth and incomes disparities grimly attest.)
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People will continue to have more useless kids. Remove the financial incentive to have more = less useless people.
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Far more so than the majority of GOP/TP politicians of late and those who truly do care beyond perfunctory lip service have been effectively muzzled lest they get the Rino label. I see very few in today's GOP with a genuine concern of, say, Jack Kemp.

I would say that far two many of both parties still ascribe far too closely with supply-side, tinkle-down economics which focuses its concerns far too narrowly on a well off few with some vague afterthought of hope that some of their soaring success may dribble over the rims of their crystal ware onto the economically parched lips of the majority of Americans (as surging wealth and incomes disparities grimly attest.)
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People will continue to have more useless kids. Remove the financial incentive to have more = less useless people.
Oh yeah? That doesn't work to well in Africa now does it? Where they have lots of kids to you know, offset infant mortality rates, help work on the farms, etc.

Or were you referring specifically toward a the US of A?

and I don't expect you to understand at 18, but people have children for reasons other than financial incentives. Of course, I'm sure there are those that do as well.

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Oh yeah? That doesn't work to well in Africa now does it? Where they have lots of kids to you know, offset infant mortality rates, help work on the farms, etc.

Or were you referring specifically toward a the US of A?

and I don't expect you to understand at 18, but people have children for reasons other than financial incentives. Of course, I'm sure there are those that do as well.

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I consider Marshy a useless kid. His parents should have had financial incentive to not have him.
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I consider Marshy a useless kid. His parents should have had financial incentive to not have him.
Are his parents on government assistance? If they were, you may have a valid point. If they are not, then they are doing the right thing, having kids when they can afford it.
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Oh yeah? That doesn't work to well in Africa now does it? Where they have lots of kids to you know, offset infant mortality rates, help work on the farms, etc.

Or were you referring specifically toward a the US of A?

and I don't expect you to understand at 18, but people have children for reasons other than financial incentives. Of course, I'm sure there are those that do as well.

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Just the USA. We didn't bring any other country into this. And I'm not saying that the only reason to have a kid is for financial reasons. Not at all. It's just that poor people have incentives to have kids.

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They did. I cost a lot as you know.

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Are his parents on government assistance? If they were, you may have a valid point. If they are not, then they are doing the right thing, having kids when they can afford it.
Not at all. They actually waited 6 years from marriage to have me, their first. They only had two because that is all they wanted, actually. But he is very mad because my parents collect rent checks from the government which apparently means my anti-big government rhetoric is hypocritical.
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Are his parents on government assistance? If they were, you may have a valid point. If they are not, then they are doing the right thing, having kids when they can afford it.
So you agree we need to regulate poor people's fvcking habits?
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Just the USA. We didn't bring any other country into this. And I'm not saying that the only reason to have a kid is for financial reasons. Not at all. It's just that poor people have incentives to have kids.



They did. I cost a lot as you know.



Not at all. They actually waited 6 years from marriage to have me, their first. They only had two because that is all they wanted, actually. But he is very mad because my parents collect rent checks from the government which apparently means my anti-big government rhetoric is hypocritical.
I am sure you do cost a lot. More so of dignity than dollars.

btw, I don't care that your dad works for the local government. I think you are just stupid.

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So you agree we need to regulate poor people's fvcking habits?
Not at all. They can bang all they want. But I want them to have consequences for their actions.
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I am sure you do cost a lot. More so of dignity than dollars.

btw, I don't care that your dad works for the local government. I think you are just stupid.
Why is he stupid, because he doesn't agree with you?
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What is it with you and regulation?

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I am sure you do cost a lot. More so of dignity than dollars.

btw, I don't care that your dad works for the local government. I think you are just stupid.
Oh yes, because I am such a disgrace to my parents. :roll eyes:

"Dammit that son of ours is trying to work for himself and study hard in college! Where did we go wrong?!"

And I told you before it's not really a government job and that is as deep as I will go into it.
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