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Old 02-13-2014, 09:51 AM   #1
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Minnesota is full of Communists

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Minnesota Governor Calls For $3.5 Million So That All Students Can Have A Hot Lunch

Author: Wes Williams February 12, 2014 2:16 pm


In recent weeks, the news has been full of stories about children who have been denied a hot lunch at school because they can’t pay for it. Now, at least one person in a position to do something is stepping forward.

Minnesota governor Mark Dayton (D) declared on February 11:
"No child in Minnesota should be denied a healthy lunch. We cannot expect our students to succeed on an empty stomach. I look forward to working with the Legislature to make this issue a priority in the upcoming legislative session."

No money, no hot lunch in many Minnesota schools.

The Minneapolis Star Tribune says that many Minnesota school districts deny a hot lunch to students whose school lunch accounts have a zero balance. A recent report issued by Mid-Minnesota Legal Aid finds that many school districts in the state throw away a student’s hot lunch if he or she cannot pay for it. A similar story out of Utah sparked national outrage.

Mid-Minnesota Legal Aid surveyed about 97 percent of Minnesota school districts. The report says that a little over half of the districts offer an alternative to a hot lunch, such as a cheese or peanut butter sandwich. Shockingly, 15 percent of the districts surveyed offer students who cannot pay no lunch at all!

Minnesota education commissioner Brenda Cassellius says, “When you have child poverty on the rise, you know that parents are struggling working two jobs to make it, we need solutions.” Cassellius appealed to Minnesota school districts this week, asking them to take whatever steps are required to provide a hot lunch to every student.

Governor Dayton will propose money to provide every student a hot lunch.

In his statement yesterday, Governor Dayton said that he will include $3.5 million in his supplemental budget request in order to guarantee that all Minnesota students will be able to receive a hot lunch. According to the Star Tribune story, most members of the state legislature support the move.

For their part, some Minnesota school districts are responding to the governor by making policy changes. St. Francis School District has stopped the practice of taking hot lunch trays from students without money. Interim superintendent Troy Ferguson says that the policy is rarely enforced. According to Ferguson, the policy has only been applied to high school students who are not on the reduced price lunch program.

Osseo School District spokesperson Barb Olson claims the district’s policy was misinterpreted. Olson says that when a student’s account runs out of money, the district provides a sandwich, fruit, and milk in place of a hot lunch for at least three days. Olson tells the Star Tribune “We want to reassure *people we do not deny children lunch.” However, the report comments that Olson was unable to explain why those students are not given a hot lunch.

About 62,000 students in Minnesota are on the state’s reduced price lunch plan. The plan requires that each student pay a 40 cent per meal co-pay. That adds up to a two dollar per child per week expense. Sadly, many families cannot afford even that amount.

Republicans whine about Democrats wanting to spend money to feed children.

Last year, Republicans in the Minnesota House included funding for school lunch in the state’s education bill. But in typical GOP fashion, they paid for the measure by removing funding for school anti-bullying “climate centers.” The amendment’s sponsor, Rep. Joe McDonald, said in a statement

"It disappoints me that House Democrats chose special interests and partisan politics over children. I offered an amendment last year on the House floor that would have provided funding to ensure low-income children are not turned away from the lunch table for lack of payment. My amendment would have utilized funding from more bureaucracy — including a new climate center — to help ensure our students don’t go without a school lunch. Unfortunately, Democrats stood on the side of spending more taxpayer dollars in a government agency instead of taking the opportunity to *support our children."

McDonald doesn’t mention that Minnesota is projected to have a $1 billion surplus for the rest of the budget cycle. The $3.5 million that Governor Dayton will ask for certainly won’t break the bank.
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school lunches are healthy?

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Old 02-13-2014, 10:23 AM   #3
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Well, it's a start. How much for a warm coat for every student? Maybe some wool socks and Air Jordans too? Why do the communists in Minnesota not want to take care of every need for every child, paid for of course, by the taxpayers? Those commies are heartless!
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Food is a good start. They'll have to choose their battles for the children wisely, because they'll have to fight the republicans every step of the way.
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I say they should run the lunch hour like The Hunger Games
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I remember back in HS if your parents were poor enough you could get free lunch. They had it in the computer so when you scanned your ID to pay of your debit account no one would know if you were paying or not.
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I remember back in HS if your parents were poor enough you could get free lunch. They had it in the computer so when you scanned your ID to pay of your debit account no one would know if you were paying or not.
Most states still have a free / reduced meal program for qualifying students. The article posted doesn't represent most of the USA.
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maybe they should provide free lunches to everyone..........and just make it a part of the school budget.

raise the real estate tax by a penny and be done with the issue.
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The state elected Michele Bachmann... They should be kicked out of the union anyway... Rather a hot lunch than a hot mess.
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The state elected Michele Bachmann... They should be kicked out of the union anyway... Rather a hot lunch than a hot mess.
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you are from Maryland........ how popular is the idea of those counties in western Maryland seceding and forming their own state ?
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The state elected Michele Bachmann... They should be kicked out of the union anyway... Rather a hot lunch than a hot mess.
VA is just a few hours south...although this state is largely swinging Democratic these days.
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that many Minnesota school districts deny a hot lunch to students whose school lunch accounts have a zero balance.
So the school only provides hot lunches for students that can pay for it...because you know...why is anyone going to pay for a hot lunch when you can just get it for free. Stop paying your mortgages, I mean, why pay for anything. Is it fair for those students that ARE paying for it? Either provide free lunch to all the kids, or follow the rules..if you are going to make people pay, then you only provide lunch for those that pay. If parents can't afford to keep their kids' account in check, then be a god damn parent and pack your child a lunch. Sh!t ain't rocket science.
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So the school only provides hot lunches for students that can pay for it...because you know...why is anyone going to pay for a hot lunch when you can just get it for free. Stop paying your mortgages, I mean, why pay for anything. Is it fair for those students that ARE paying for it?
They're kids....should they be punished because their parents can't afford to give them money?
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They're kids....should they be punished because their parents can't afford to give them money?
Fvcking right. It is the consequence of them not being born to a better off family. Choose better next time around.
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They're kids....should they be punished because their parents can't afford to give them money?
I edited my post above...but I'll repeat. I honestly don't know how much a lunch is in a public school these days, but lets assume it really is an amount that is too high for some...fair enough....guess what? Pack your child a god damn lunch. Are you telling me that parents send their kids to school without a lunch, without money to buy lunch, hoping that they would get a free lunch? If that's the case, a $1000 fine, and a week in jail might knock some damn sense into them. Nothing wrong with packing your kid a turkey and swiss sandwich for lunch.

I ask again...are you implying that the kids that ARE paying for lunch don't have struggling parents? Is it fair for them to have to pay while their buddy mooches for free? Like I said, either provide free lunch (charge some more property taxes, fire a few teachers, whatever) or do it by the book....lunch costs X amount and only those that pay can have it. Really poor parents should be able to apply for a discounted price if they qualify. Poor/rich parents can opt out completely and pack their kids their own lunches.
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Fvcking right. It is the consequence of them not being born to a better off family. Choose better next time around.
Again, are you implying that the kids that ARE paying for these lunches are not from poor families?
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I edited my post above...but I'll repeat. I honestly don't know how much a lunch is in a public school these days, but lets assume it really is an amount that is too high for some...fair enough....guess what? Pack your child a god damn lunch. Are you telling me that parents send their kids to school without a lunch, without money to buy lunch, hoping that they would get a free lunch?
I get what you're saying, but punishing a child for the actions of a parent doesn't sound like the correct thing to do.


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If that's the case, a $1000 fine, and a week in jail might knock some damn sense into them. Nothing wrong with packing your kid a turkey and swiss sandwich for lunch.
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I ask again...are you implying that the kids that ARE paying for lunch don't have struggling parents? Is it fair for them to have to pay while their buddy mooches for free? Like I said, either provide free lunch (charge some more property taxes, fire a few teachers, whatever) or do it by the book....lunch costs X amount and only those that pay can have it. Really poor parents should be able to apply for a discounted price if they qualify. Poor/rich parents can opt out completely and pack their kids their own lunches.
No where did I imply anything of that nature. Again, all I'm saying is that punishing a child for the actions of an adult is not the right thing to do.
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