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Old 02-14-2014, 09:28 PM   #21
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This is irrelevant. A law against discrimination is not necessary. Imagine if a restaurant put up this sign saying whites only how long would they last? You can bet that customers will not go there even if they are white. Local news will do stories on it. People will go berserk. This is an example of the free market at work.

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Okay. You guys find a country where this is possible, and we can all move there.
So you support this as well?
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So laws that were relevant in the past may not be relevant today and should be done away with because people don't think like that anymore? Check.


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Old 02-14-2014, 10:08 PM   #23
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I didn't even realize we had a same sex marriage ban.
Yeah, and I think it is still legal (in other words, not illegal ) to discriminate against gays.
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Old 02-14-2014, 10:11 PM   #24
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The point is that it is your freedom to discriminate if you choose to, the laws are outdated, and the market will take care of stragglers. Any questions?
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Why has the market been so slow to catch up on taking care of discrimination?


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If discrimination doesn't exist because of the free market, then anti-discrimination laws are harmless and simple statutory neglect is all that's needed, right?

Kind of like a law that says "don't kill dodo birds"?


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If a business does this today, they will fail within a month.
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Discrimination is only 1/2 the issue. Private property rights are the other. You have a constitutional right to carry a gun. I have the right to not let you in if you have one. A private business owner should be allowed to operate as they see fit (even if that means poorly.) If there is enough business to sustain them despite their bigotry, others can go elsewhere. 99% of normal business owners are only concerned with one color, green. I personally don't care about your religion, your race, your sexual orientation, country of origin, whatever...I want you coming back and spend more money, so I will try and attract as many people as I can. Someone that is marketing themselves as a Christian wedding cake baker may find it better for business to only do Christian weddings. As a Jew, I don't care. I don't want someone that doesn't want my business forced to serve me. Would you eat a cake I was forced to make for you? There is plenty of natural "discrimination." Walk into a soul food restaurant in harlem, and you will find most patrons are black. Walk into a late night spot in Bayside queens, and you'll see that most people are Asian. People generally don't feel comfortable when they stand out. Some clubs in queens are 100% Asian. They won't deny you entry, but you just don't belong, so you leave. I just find the entire concept of attempting to legislate civility as ludicrous.
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How has the market been slow to end discrimination?

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What's with you wanting all of these laws? Is there a requirement as to how many laws per capita there must be? We have too many laws already. Stop pretending that more are necessary.
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How has the market been slow to end discrimination?







What's with you wanting all of these laws? Is there a requirement as to how many laws per capita there must be? We have too many laws already. Stop pretending that more are necessary.

Where did I day more are necessary?

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I thought that's what you were getting at. But go on, answer my question. Don't deflect.
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I thought that's what you were getting at. But go on, answer my question. Don't deflect.
You are the KING of deflection. Don't even pretend that you're not.

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You are the KING of deflection.
That's YOUR OPINION. And I'm pretty sure NOVA got the reference.
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I thought that's what you were getting at. But go on, answer my question. Don't deflect.

Your question? About me supposedly wanting new laws? Where did I say that?


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No, my question about how has the market been slow to end discrimination?
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Where was the free market prior to the civil rights act? The free market was just about to emancipate slaves, but then the government took its idea and claimed it, right? Free market was getting ready to allow universal suffrage, but then same thing?


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Where was the free market prior to the civil rights act? The free market was just about to emancipate slaves, but then the government took its idea and claimed it, right? Free market was getting ready to allow universal suffrage, but then same thing?


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So you believe today is the same as back then? Why don't you read up what happened to that Christian couple that denied gays their cake....1 article closed their business. Again, I must also point out that civil rights are important, but so are property rights.
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You just named examples of inequality and injustice which were all government sanctioned. Think next time.
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You just named examples of inequality and injustice which were all government sanctioned. Think next time.

Also popularly sanctioned, and ended through legislation.


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So you believe today is the same as back then? Why don't you read up what happened to that Christian couple that denied gays their cake....1 article closed their business. Again, I must also point out that civil rights are important, but so are property rights.

When weighing civil rights vs property rights, which are more important?


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