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Old 02-15-2014, 08:58 AM   #1
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Those Evil Koch Brothers Keep Buying Elections!

http://m.washingtonexaminer.com/it-t...rticle/2544025
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Charles and David Koch are the two most evil people in American politics, right? We know that because Jane Mayer proved it with her landmark "Covert Operations" tour de liberal force in 2010.

Well, it turns out that Mayer's aim was off just a little, by like 58 slots on the all-time biggest donors in American politics list, as compiled by OpenSecrets.org.

OpenSecrets.org tallied the top donors in federal elections between 1989 and 2014. Koch Industries -- privately owned by the Evil Koch Bros -- is on the list, to be sure, but doesn't appear until the 59th slot, with $18 million in donations, 90 percent of which went to Republicans.

Unions, unions, unions

So who occupies the 58 spots ahead of the Evil Koch Bros? Six of the top 10 are ... wait for it ... unions. They gave more than $278 million, with most of it going to Democrats.

These are familiar names: AFSCME ($60.6 million), NEA ($53.5 million), IBEW ($44.4 million), UAW ($41.6 million), Carpenters & Joiners ($39.2 million) and SEIU ($38.3 million).

In other words, the six biggest union donors in American politics gave 15 times more to mostly Democrats than the Evil Koch Bros.

Wall Street and Act Blue, too

Three of the remaining four slots in the top 10 were taken by AT&T ($56.4 million), National Association of Realtors ($51.2 million) and Goldman Sachs ($44.8 million).

So, if money is the measure of evil in American politics and the Evil Koch Bros only come in 59th, who is really the most evil donor ever?

Turns out it's Act Blue, with just short of $100 million in contributions during its lifetime, which only started in 2004, 15 years after the Evil Koch Bros in the OpenSecrets.org compilation.

Any bets on when Mayer's "Covert Operations II: Act Blue" will appear in the New Yorker?
How dare they!
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It's amazing how liberals blame all the ills of America on a single cable news outlet and the 59th largest political donor
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It's amazing how liberals blame all the ills of America on a single cable news outlet and the 59th largest political donor
I'm aware of the mass of donors to the Republicans and Democrats. I just your post was funny and think it's funny how the media portrays the Koch Brothers (*cough* CNN IIRC).

Anyway, I'd rather just get the money out of politics...

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If a union member donates....does that get lumped into 'the union donated' ....if so...then those numbers are very misleading.

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I'm aware of the mass of donors to the Republicans and Democrats. I just your post was funny and think it's funny how the media portrays the Koch Brothers (*cough* CNN IIRC).

Anyway, I'd rather just get the money out of politics...
I agree 100%. No more of this BS. It would also make it impossible for an unaccomplished nobody to be elected president, which is nice, since only those that truly did the country a service would be in the spotlight. Dare to dream.
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I agree 100%. No more of this BS. It would also make it impossible for an unaccomplished nobody to be elected president, which is nice, since only those that truly did the country a service would be in the spotlight. Dare to dream.
Yes dare to dream. I'd do it if I had more interest, wanted to pursue a path in politics, and wouldn't face a large opposition. I could care less about the money and more about the impact I'd try to make on peoples lives as well as the well-being of this nation.

The government is set up to represent the views of the people. People get what they vote for.
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If a union member donates....does that get lumped into 'the union donated' ....if so...then those numbers are very misleading.

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I'd bet that member donations through the union would get lumped into that "union donated" total. I can't say for the other unions on the list, but the IBEW sends a pretty hefty chunk of it's member's monthly dues in for political campaign contributions.
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I agree 100%. No more of this BS. It would also make it impossible for an unaccomplished nobody to be elected president, which is nice, since only those that truly did the country a service would be in the spotlight. Dare to dream.
This is the most sane, rational post I've ever seen from you.

I think I'm going to weep.
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How dare they!
Notice they went all the way back to 1989? How do those numbers compare to the years 2000 through 2014?
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The Koch brother's of millions of political funding represents the grossly outsized influence of two brothers while the political fundings of unions represents the represents the shared views of millions of members.

I think the latter is a better reflection of a democratic citizenry of equals whereas the former reflects a oligarchy of a wealthy elite.
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I agree 100%. No more of this BS. It would also make it impossible for an unaccomplished nobody to be elected president, which is nice, since only those that truly did the country a service would be in the spotlight. Dare to dream.
This would be pretty ****ing rad wouldn't it? But I wonder how many secret donations would occur behind closed doors using loopholes if anyone asked...

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The Koch brother's of millions of political funding represents the grossly outsized influence of two brothers while the political fundings of unions represents the represents the shared views of millions of members.

I think the latter is a better reflection of a democratic citizenry of equals whereas the former reflects a oligarchy of a wealthy elite.
How the heck can you tell if the union members share those views? They're forced to pay dues and have zero say in how those dues are spent. The money is usually spent to support whichever candidate the union management believes will will generate more dues for the union.
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Unions will be the death of America, not Al Queda.
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Nobody in this country has ever been forced to pay union dues.

Every one who belongs to a union is free to work a non-union job for less money and fewer benefits. Stop spreading that lie.
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Hilarious.
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Hilarious.
Wasn't meant to be. How can we sustain paying extremely inflated wages for monkey work because these people vote together?
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Wasn't meant to be. How can we sustain paying extremely inflated wages for monkey work because these people vote together?
I'm no fan of unions, although I recognize that they are part of any market, but they represent about 11% of the labor population. This figure has been on a steady decline over the past few decades. It seems like you are over emphasizing their impact just a tad.
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I'm no fan of unions, although I recognize that they are part of any market, but they represent about 11% of the labor population. This figure has been on a steady decline over the past few decades. It seems like you are over emphasizing their impact just a tad.
He doesnt know any better.
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Wasn't meant to be. How can we sustain paying extremely inflated wages for monkey work because these people vote together?
Why do you republicans want the US labor force to earn third-world wages?


Rhetorical question. In the "conservative" mind, the dollar > everything.
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