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Old 04-08-2014, 01:31 AM   #61
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He's trying to defend his many many BMWs that he have owned now.

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Old 04-08-2014, 01:59 AM   #62
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flame stickers and multiple M badges. neons and a spoiler are bonus.

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Old 04-08-2014, 11:06 AM   #63
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If people are this sensitive about what the "purist" think of your car then dont join forums. Its not just bmw owner, every car forums has those guys that they dont like anything is not good enough for them and they feel they need to put you down.
I had a pizza delivery guy tell me that my angel eyes are decreasing the value of my car. I responded with "i paid 3500 for this car, what value is this you talking about?"

I guess to some people any bmw=$$$$$$$
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Old 04-08-2014, 11:09 AM   #64
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If I get to drive them, I'll sure drop by when the next business trip calls me down there. What's in your stable?
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Old 04-08-2014, 12:10 PM   #65
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I am going to install M3 fender grill on my 323ci.
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This 323 would most likely handle and drive better than a stock e46 m3.
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Old 04-08-2014, 02:09 PM   #66
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Old 04-08-2014, 02:58 PM   #67
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I love reading these kinds of threads. I think using M parts is OK, but putting an M3 badge on a non-M car is really lame.
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Old 04-08-2014, 03:05 PM   #68
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I'm looking at purchasing a new 2014 335 with M performance package. That car has M badges everywhere on the body. Should I rip them all off when I get the car at risk of it being "cliche"? M badges on M performance parts are IMO fine. Someone throwing an M3 badge on a car which wasn't an M3 from the factory is where I'd draw the line.
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Old 04-08-2014, 03:38 PM   #69
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People getting butthurt over the M badging. I don't see what's so confusing. My X5 has M badges all over it and It's not an X5M. Parts inspired by the M-division gets that badging. There's nothing wrong with it or retrofitting those parts. The only thing that's poser is passing the entire car off as an M-Car.
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I'm looking at purchasing a new 2014 335 with M performance package. That car has M badges everywhere on the body. Should I rip them all off when I get the car at risk of it being "cliche"? M badges on M performance parts are IMO fine. Someone throwing an M3 badge on a car which wasn't an M3 from the factory is where I'd draw the line.

This is an entirely different scenario. You are paying extra to actually buy the car from the factory with the M division performance package. There is a huge difference between this and buying an old non M 3 series for $5k and throwing a bunch of aftermarket fake M parts on it. If you're paying $50k+ for a new F30 with the M performance package you are far from a poser.




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Old 04-08-2014, 05:19 PM   #71
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This is an entirely different scenario. You are paying extra to actually buy the car from the factory with the M division performance package. There is a huge difference between this and buying an old non M 3 series for $5k and throwing a bunch of aftermarket fake M parts on it. If you're paying $50k+ for a new F30 with the M performance package you are far from a poser.
Didn't know my oem M parts were fake, regardless of when they were added to the car
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Old 04-08-2014, 05:50 PM   #72
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If people are this sensitive about what the "purist" think of your car then dont join forums. Its not just bmw owner, every car forums has those guys that they dont like anything is not good enough for them and they feel they need to put you down.
I had a pizza delivery guy tell me that my angel eyes are decreasing the value of my car. I responded with "i paid 3500 for this car, what value is this you talking about?"

I guess to some people any bmw=$$$$$$$

Good point. But that's the thing "good enough for them" but ITS NOT THEIR CAR! Why should their opinion mean anything to the point it justifies them disrespecting the next BMW owner? It's not so much sensitivity. I said in an earlier post, on a forum you open yourself to opinions. My issue is the level of disrespect. Can't we be civil enough to disagree on taste and preference without being barbarians about it?

If BMW themselves were as indignant as some so called purists, they would lose revenue on M-performance parts they sell purely for after factory fitment. If the manufacturer themselves who own and have pride in their brand think it's ok to add on M-performance parts after the fact, what makes it ok to then act like anyone who fits into this market share is an undeserving BMW owner?


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Old 04-08-2014, 06:07 PM   #73
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Didn't know my oem M parts were fake, regardless of when they were added to the car

Whether they are OEM or not, if they didn't come on the car from the factory then its simply trying to make it look like its something that its not. Whether you're trying to make it look like a ZHP or an M3 or whatever.


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Old 04-08-2014, 06:33 PM   #74
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Whether they are OEM or not, if they didn't come on the car from the factory then its simply trying to make it look like its something that its not. Whether you're trying to make it look like a ZHP or an M3 or whatever.


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Old 04-08-2014, 06:48 PM   #75
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A tribute car "fake m3" should be as close to factory m series as possible.. like the $60k tribute yenko camaros.

just putting a badge on it leaves you wide open to critisism.. upgrading to M parts is perfectly acceptable imo.
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You have an M3 steering wheel.

I do have an M steering wheel. I changed it out for function (thicker and thumb rests) and its barely a visible modification. If you read back thru this thread it was more pertaining to M bumpers, badges, etc that change the appearance of the car and make it look like something its not. A simple steering wheel that is only seen by myself being in the drivers seat is hardly trying to make the car look like an M. Behind the tinted glass its not even visible from the outside of the car. Either way I don't really care what people do to their cars. The original question was "why the hate on M add on's" and my response was more of a general reasoning as to why some people do not agree with these modifications.


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The M bumper improves aerodynamics (marginal maybe but an improvement all the same). Paddle shift steering wheel makes driving in steptronic manual mode that much more enjoyable and effective. At the end of the day everyone makes a change to their car for a reason that makes sense to them. To then judge them and think less of them just because reasoning varies is still self righteous.


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I'd like to chime in here, if at all possible.

While I appreciate the stock look over aftermarket goodies, when people equip their cars with other OEM goodies I have found these modifications to be quite tasteful, and true to the OEM look.

What I find patently egregious are all the younger kids buying the e46 as a first car, and then wanting to mod these cars to the point of being unrecognizeable.

The other thing I find horrible, especially as out cars approach the bottom of their value cycle (As you are starting to see well maintained n/a e36s beginning to appreciate) is people buying a used 04 330i with 120k on the clock. Instead of asking what maintenance the car needs ASAP, the first question is "can I fit 19"'s on the car" and "can I fit this bumper on my car" or "omg angeleyes" when their cars need, badly, fluid flushes, bushings, control arms, brakes, etc., etc.,

A well maintained car is way more attractive, IMHO, than a 323i with M wheels, Recaro seats, and a M steering wheel, where the cruise control doesn't work.
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