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Old 04-26-2014, 03:56 PM   #21
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They have a recommended yearly "checkup" that's a diagnostic test of all the electronics, brakes, alignment, etc. It isn't covered under warranty and costs $600, but the sales rep said most owners do it once every 2 years. Outside of tires and brakes there is zero maintenance.
This statement alone makes me want one so much fast car with barely any maintenance.....whoa
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Old 04-26-2014, 04:31 PM   #22
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I just wish the battery packs could be changed with a lift or similar, means you could setup a business where you pay for the battery to be changed rather than a x-hours charge.
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Old 04-26-2014, 04:34 PM   #23
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I just wish the battery packs could be changed with a lift or similar, means you could setup a business where you pay for the battery to be changed rather than a x-hours charge.
They can
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Old 04-26-2014, 04:39 PM   #24
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Exactly what I had in mind. I'd regulate (if I ever was in power) that car fuel-batteries would be standardised, just as every fuel nozzle is now.

Gas stations are the perfect place to be converted for Fuel-Batteries
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Old 04-26-2014, 04:46 PM   #25
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Oh yeah I forgot you interviewed with them. It's such a small operation, kind of crazy.


If I found myself looking for a car in a few years it would be high high up on the list. If the E drives anything like the S then the big automakers are in for a rude awakening. Everything about the way it drove was ...smooth, until you floor it and it throws your head back.
Yea the desks are basically rubbermaid tables lol. The entire service department is like 2 office space / store fronts combined. Like 1500sq ft total, and I was coming from a shop that was 15,000 sq ft. If you checked out the service area the guys were wearing shorts, and had tattoos and gauged piercings. It was really laid back. I showed up in slacks and a dress shirt and I felt like they were shocked to see me dressed this way. I probably would have had the job but I went to the interview knowing that I had classes for another 6 weeks which would interfere with when they'd need me. I'd try again in the future though based on the atmosphere / cool product.
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Old 04-26-2014, 08:16 PM   #26
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We have two friends who have an S, and we've ridden in and driven one of them. I love the car, with the following observations (and now that I've reviewed what I've written, it sounds as though I'm damning them with faint praise, but that's not the case at all. I sincerely want them to succeed in the marketplace):

The range is amazing, but still not where I personally need a vehicle to be for me to consider it.

The recharging of the batteries needs to be much much quicker. Replacing the batteries as in the video would be a great alternative, if the infrastructure and price for the swap could be handled so that a minimum 300-400 mile commute would be seamless to drivers, as useful as a gasoline engine is today.

Every surface of the Tesla's interior is very nice, but not quite to the level of an $80,000-$125,000 vehicle. I get the feeling that Tesla had vendors provide quotes for the least-expensive choices of the best materials available, and in some cases (the leather, or the carpet, for instance) still chose the next level down. Still damn nice, mind you, just... off a bit. I wish I could explain it better. It's just not top top notch stuff for the price. I know, I know, up-and-coming manufacturer and all that. Still... The front trunk lining is already showing serious signs of wear and tear, in a car only a few months old.

The performance is incredible, and the sensation of being on some sort of rail gun sled is intoxicating. Add to that the virtual silence as you accelerate, and I found myself stabbing the pedal more than I should have. Sadly, that kills range very, very quickly.

I actually like the huge portrait screen in the middle of the dash that controls everything. One of our friends almost didn't buy his car because of it, the other seems pleased with it. I love it. "Sun roof open 62%. Nah, let's make it... 66%!" Bam.

My Beloved and I actually rode in the back back seat for a few miles, to see what it was like. There's actually a reasonable amount of room back there in the "trunk," but then again, we're not huge people (and being quite a bit younger, more petite, and more lithe than I, she didn't mind it as much). Looking back and watching the people recognize the car and pulling out cell phones to take pictures is a hoot. I bet there are a bunch of pictures of us online waving from the trunk of a Tesla...

Until and unless laws are changed (allowing sales directly to the consumer without dealer involvement) and/or they start placing showrooms in major cities (and not-so-major cities), their ambitious sales goals are unrealistic as all get-out. And the elephant in the room: Will Tesla still be in business in two, five, ten years? They have not made dime one yet. How long can they continue to exist under their present financial situation? I just see a big house of cards at this time. I hope I'm wrong...
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They have a recommended yearly "checkup" that's a diagnostic test of all the electronics, brakes, alignment, etc. It isn't covered under warranty and costs $600, but the sales rep said most owners do it once every 2 years. Outside of tires and brakes there is zero maintenance.
What if any trim pieces break prematurely? Like seat parts, handles, lights, etc.

Who would replace these?
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I drove the P85 like a year ago. Liked the power and innovative stuff. It didn't even touch the m3 handling or ergonomics though.
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The recharging of the batteries needs to be much much quicker. Replacing the batteries as in the video would be a great alternative, if the infrastructure and price for the swap could be handled so that a minimum 300-400 mile commute would be seamless to drivers, as useful as a gasoline engine is today.
I agree, and we'll be there in a few more years. The more early adopters we get now the faster the technology will come. And like the video I posted shows, if you want to pay $50 you can "refill" in less than a minute and be on your way. It all boils down to the age old choice of fast or cheap.
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I know what you mean, particularly in regards to the leather. It was nice, but the leather in my M3 is a lot softer and finer grained, and the Tesla costs much more than my car did. I was surprised to see the seats weren't fully adjustable either, even the headrests are at a fixed height. For now, blaming it on these being early production cars works for me. If they haven't gotten better in 3-5 years time then there's a problem.
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Old 04-27-2014, 09:43 AM   #31
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$50 is still cheaper than a tank of gas so there's that.

Tesla as a company doesn't have the same supply chain or vendor relationships that the other large companies have. The materials will get better over time as they gain those relationships and the cost breaks that come with them.
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Old 04-27-2014, 09:51 AM   #32
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There are at least 2 teslas in South Bend here... I see them daily on my commute to school. One is owned by someone in my neighborhood. They're nice cars. Haven't had the Chance to ride in one though

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there's a dealer opening less than 10minutes from where i live....might take that test drive
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This was announced almost a year ago and it hasn't been implemented yet.

It most likely wont be happening. It takes 4 hours to swap the battery at service centers.
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Yes, but economically it is not as cheap as you think.
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You're correct, it's actually cheaper. Especially when you charge during off-peak hours.

I'm able to drive 55 miles and it costs less than $1.00
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Until and unless laws are changed (allowing sales directly to the consumer without dealer involvement) and/or they start placing showrooms in major cities (and not-so-major cities), their ambitious sales goals are unrealistic as all get-out. And the elephant in the room: Will Tesla still be in business in two, five, ten years? They have not made dime one yet. How long can they continue to exist under their present financial situation? I just see a big house of cards at this time. I hope I'm wrong...
Great post, I see them every day here in Uptown.

I also see a random Fisker Karma as well. With no dealer support, I think independent shops that already have the hybrid service manuals from Toyota, Honda, etc will step up for service.
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