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Old 03-08-2005, 06:36 PM   #81
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Tommie:
I do appreciate the optimism, BUT this my wife's car..and if you are, were or ever will be married, you know there is nothing worse in the WORLD than screwing up your bride's ride...

Fortunately, Staz has agreed to help me (he's got family that lives close by me), and if the weather warms up I hope to tackle this on Saturday..

Thanks for the encouraging words though...

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the front's are easier in my opinion.... u should actually try it yourself man, i was 18 at the time i was doing it... didn't know ne thing about cars, and had no clue on what i was doing.. but im a pro now hahha
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Old 03-12-2005, 07:57 PM   #82
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Thanks Stan....

So today was the day...
Tommie's DIY instructions printed beside me, and berberle's sheet on suggestions for the front along side..I started and had the door panel off, the vapor barrier off, the battery disconnected, when Stan arrived..

The challenge became loosening the window retaining bolts.. Stan was truly THE man in helping to get them loose..BUT we discovered that a "long and skinny" 8MM socket and the window dropped almost to the bottom, became the key to success..

So my contribution to this thread is (for the front reg anyway) is to pick up an 8MM deep and narrow socket BEFORE you begin.
Also, there is a clip that needs to be transferred from the old cable to the new one which may just be in the front, but easily overlooked, and not in the original write up..

Thanks Tommie, beberle and most of all Stan for helping me become a little smarter about my 323i..

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Old 03-13-2005, 11:29 AM   #83
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So today was the day...
Tommie's DIY instructions printed beside me, and berberle's sheet on suggestions for the front along side..I started and had the door panel off, the vapor barrier off, the battery disconnected, when Stan arrived..

The challenge became loosening the window retaining bolts.. Stan was truly THE man in helping to get them loose..BUT we discovered that a "long and skinny" 8MM socket and the window dropped almost to the bottom, became the key to success..

So my contribution to this thread is (for the front reg anyway) is to pick up an 8MM deep and narrow socket BEFORE you begin.
Also, there is a clip that needs to be transferred from the old cable to the new one which may just be in the front, but easily overlooked, and not in the original write up..

Thanks Tommie, beberle and most of all Stan for helping me become a little smarter about my 323i..

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Old 03-17-2005, 01:59 PM   #84
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Wink Easy

Thats had to be one of the eastiest things i have ever done on my car and saved my self over $200, i did the front passanger and the only this diff from the write up is there are two red tabs opne front one in the back and the air bag but other than that it took me about and hour to do and could do in about 30 minutes next time.
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Old 03-17-2005, 03:09 PM   #85
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Thats had to be one of the eastiest things i have ever done on my car and saved my self over $200, i did the front passanger and the only this diff from the write up is there are two red tabs opne front one in the back and the air bag but other than that it took me about and hour to do and could do in about 30 minutes next time.
yes i did my back rear and save me ton of $$ too-- i printed this post and had my Bentley close by
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Old 03-18-2005, 12:09 AM   #86
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i had mine done at the dealer under warranty because it was making
creeking noises when going up.
jmk in jersey totaly foked it up. they ripped my tint and 3 weeks later
the creek is worst then ever im so pissed off
they did however pay half for replacing the tint.
how come the mechanic did not tape the window up when he did the job
i hate the stealerships they are morrons
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Old 03-18-2005, 12:59 AM   #87
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wow... i guess im famous?? hehehe you guys should all buy me a beer

thanks for the nice words and i hope this thread keeps up
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Old 03-18-2005, 04:15 PM   #88
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wow... i guess im famous?? hehehe you guys should all buy me a beer

thanks for the nice words and i hope this thread keeps up

Tommie: Come to NJ and I'll buy you a KEG ..and then Stan, bmu and the rest of us who have come to appreciate your write up can toast you righteously !

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Old 04-06-2005, 10:29 PM   #89
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hahaha, no problem dudes

i know this problem happens a lot and i know it costs exactly 274.56 at the dealer (well my dealership) .... i would rather do it myself and keep 200 bucks to myself

glad everything worked out for you guys
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Old 04-06-2005, 11:39 PM   #90
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Another thought....

Greetings:
I've spend WAYYYY too much time analyzing what actually "broke" on my regulator..and provide the following dissertation for your reading and kind consideration..Here's my analysis..I welcome feedback, critiques and/or insights from anyone who tries my suggestion...

THE BAD NEWS
Note: My suggestion will require you to do the disassembly/assembly TWICE if your gear is broken or my suggestion doesn't work for you..BUT, think of it as PRACTICE for when the part you end up needing arrives...

BEGINNING
First, I shall assume you've gotten or can get to the point in Tommie's DIY where you have removed the door panel, the vapor barrier (what a be-yatch!), the airbag assm (3 screws) if front window(s), and the window motor (3 screws). When you remove the motor, you see the gear that meshes with the motor..which drives the cable that of course raises and lowers the window...

ED's STORY
After I replaced the window regulator, I began the inspection of the old one I removed, to try to discover what was wrong with it (and so many others). In MY case, NONE of the gear's teeth were broken BUT it was HEAVILY clogged with what can only be described as gunky, dried up BROWN grease (or whatever lubricant the factory put in there),.. With the grease dried up, it prevented a smooth range of motion of the glass driven by the cable via the gear...

ED'S SUGGESTION
BEFORE you buy the window reg part (reminder, mine was a FRONT regulator which MIGHT be different from the rear), go thru the same steps of taking off the door panel, the vapor barrier and the motor.. Now, LOOK CLOSELY at the white gear from where you just removed the window motor.. IF there are no broken teeth in the gear, CAREFULLY spray the area with brake cleaner or your personal choice of solvent (PLEASE, NOTHING TOO STRONG or it'll melt the plastic gear part)..get a box of q-tips and begin removing any/all traces of the old brown grease..work hard to get as much of the old grease removed as possible..Manually push the glass down to see if any old grease OOZES out from the sides..

NOW, get some white lithium grease and carefully spray it into the area where the gear spins inside it's holder..Again, manually pulling the window up and down between sprays will help insure that you've gotten the GOOD grease inside..

Reinstall the window motor...reconnect the neg side of the battery (if you didn't disconnect it from the beginning, give your forehead a smack and say "DOH!" really loud), and before putting back the vapor barrier and the door panel back on, TRY the window (ie, see if it goes up and down without making cracking sounds or any other stalls along the way...)

ED'S WARNING
BE VERY CAREFUL !! THE AIR BAG IS LIVE ONCE THE BATTERY IS RECONNECTED AND DOESN'T LIKE TO BE JOSTLED, BOUNCED, SHAKEN OR DROPPED !! IT IS YOUR CHOICE/RESPONSIBILITY TO USE THIS APPROACH. MY SUGGESTIONS ARE MERELY THAT - SUGGESTIONS !! AIR BAGS ARE RISKY, AND IT'S YOUR CHOICE TO TRY THIS APPROACH. BE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THE RISKS BEFORE YOU ATTEMPT THIS PROCEDURE.

THE GOOD NEWS!
If it works, you not only saved the $200 labor, but the $75 for the parts !!
I have no idea if this is a permanent fix, but I have checked all the other gears on my sedan..they looked exactly like the one I replaced, so I perfomed the service I just described..I will tell you that they definitely move much SMOOTHER than before, and "seem" to seal better than before..

Hope this helps someone...and if your experience differs from my own, please write and let us know..

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Old 04-06-2005, 11:46 PM   #91
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also check out the wire that brings the window up and down.... that can be the cause of a failing window regulator...
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Old 04-19-2005, 03:52 PM   #92
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I've got a 2000 323i and looks like both my front regulators are shot. I have no idea if it's the motor or wire, so I'll just assume it's the regulator. Anyone in the Seattle/Bellevue area want to follow the steps in this thread on my car ? I don't want to pay the $350 /each side that the dealer wants.
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Old 04-19-2005, 09:36 PM   #93
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i think my regulator is messed up to but it seems to go up and down fine but when it goes down sometimes sounds like its hitting somethign and doesnt go all the way down. and when its down some times it goes really slow up but it does go up and down wat do u think the problem is?
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regulator... it's probably the wire
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Old 05-05-2005, 04:53 PM   #95
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How do you know if the Window Regulator is broke. I've been using the Driver's side window up/down with no noises and problems. But when I brought it into the dealer to fix my door brake, they said it will cost $290 to fix the window regulator. The dealer said the regulator parts are broken and in pieces laying at the bottom of the door. The window worked fine just before I dropped my car off for service? They asked if I heard any loud noises when operating the window, but the thing is quiet? Are there any warning signs?
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Old 05-05-2005, 06:17 PM   #96
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How do you know if the Window Regulator is broke. I've been using the Driver's side window up/down with no noises and problems. But when I brought it into the dealer to fix my door brake, they said it will cost $290 to fix the window regulator. The dealer said the regulator parts are broken and in pieces laying at the bottom of the door. The window worked fine just before I dropped my car off for service? They asked if I heard any loud noises when operating the window, but the thing is quiet? Are there any warning signs?

Sometimes they just break all the sudden, sometimes you will get a bit of a warning. If its starting to break you may get some load clicking of cracking noises as the window goes up.

If you can follow a DIY and have someone to help I would fix it yourself. The part online is $75 it takes about an hour to change (quicker if you know what your doing)
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Old 05-06-2005, 03:26 PM   #97
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Thanks...Is this repair detailed in the Bentley Manual?
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Old 05-07-2005, 02:02 AM   #98
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Thanks...Is this repair detailed in the Bentley Manual?

I don't know about the Bentley Manual, but you have got all the DETAILS right here, starting with page 1 from Tommiebox.

In sum, take off door panel, take off vapor barrier, take off motor, take off airbag if front, remove regulator, reverse. - PERIOD


What more are you looking for?


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Thanks for the step-by-step breakdown...I'm fixing to buy a Bentley Repair Maunal and was trying to see if this was covered or not to see whether it's worth it to buy the manual or not.
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Old 05-16-2005, 01:14 PM   #100
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Great DIY, just like many of you one of my Regulators went bad AGAIN!!!!!!!! this time its the rear drivers side window. I use the link listed here in the post and the Price is NOW $84.00 or so vice the $75.00 but Since I am currently in VA, and they are located in MD, I will have it shortly.

My window is currently up now, It was stuck in the down position until I removed the motor, I am just waiting on the new Regulator, door is all apart ready to go.

I hope BMW Updates there regulators..this is crazy...Again DIY is great, this is Why I love this Forum, and has certainly come a long way from 1999. been down since then. This is what the fourm is all about.



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