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Old 06-10-2014, 05:54 PM   #1
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CA judge strikes down teacher tenure, firing laws

And of course teachers unions in CA are upset

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Los Angeles (CNN) -- A California judge ruled as unconstitutional Tuesday the state's teacher tenure, dismissal and layoff laws, saying they keep bad teachers in the classroom and force out the good ones, as alleged by nine students in a lawsuit, the plaintiffs said.

The Los Angeles County court ordered a stay on the decision, pending an appeal by the state and the teachers union, the plaintiffs added.

"This is a monumental day for California's public education system," plaintiffs' attorney Theodore J. Boutrous Jr. said in a statement. "By striking down these irrational laws, the Court has recognized that all students deserve a quality education. Today's ruling is a victory not only for our nine plaintiffs; it is a victory for students, parents, and teachers across California."

The nine students filed their lawsuit with help from the nonprofit Students Matter, which says it sponsors "impact litigation to promote access to quality public education."

The plaintiffs alleged that tenure is granted too quickly, giving "grossly ineffective teachers" lifetime job protection, and asserted that dismissal laws are so costly and bureaucratic that districts remain stuck with bad teachers. The suit also contends that the state's "last-in, first-out" layoff laws force districts to fire top teachers and retain ineffective ones, the plaintiffs said in a statement.

The California Teachers Association, a 325,000-member affiliate of the National Education Association, said it was "disappointed" by the judge's decision "as it hurts student and educators."

The union said there is nothing unconstitutional about the laws and is appealing.

"We are deeply disappointed, but not surprised, by this decision. Like the lawsuit itself, today's ruling is deeply flawed. This lawsuit has nothing to do with what's best for kids, but was manufactured by a Silicon Valley millionaire and a corporate PR firm to undermine the teaching profession and push their agenda on our schools," CTA President Dean E. Vogel said in a statement.

The union described Students Matter as a group created by Silicon Valley multimillionaire David Welch and a private public relations firm and said the group is supported by former Washington, D.C., schools chancellor "Michelle Rhee and Students First, Parent Revolution Executive Director Ben Austin, billionaire and school privatizer Eli Broad, former lawmaker Gloria Romero, and other corporate education reformers with an interest in privatizing public education and attacking teachers' unions."

Those individuals and groups couldn't be immediately reached for comment.
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I've never really understood the justifications for tenure in education.
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California's teacher union is one of the most powerful and perverse unions in the country.
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This is great. There are so many old LAUSD teachers who dont give a fuk and are getting paid so much.
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I never understood why tenure was a thing anyway

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ITT: Capitalists complaining about other capitalists because they're teachers.
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Thank baby jesus there are ppl that still want to teach.
If you live here in NY, you basically have to get on line to get a teaching job. Highly desirable, unreal competition.
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I agree with this recent ruling.

My fiance is an elementary school teacher at an inner city school. She does not have tenure, but has been with the same school for ~8 years now and really enjoys making a difference in the lives of children.

She has shared many stories of tenured old teachers that don't care anymore, that lack inspiration and are only there to pass the time until retirement. One such teacher last year decided to use all of her banked up sick days and vaca days and walked out in February never to return for the remainder of the school year. But her union contract and tenure protected her until she reached retirement the following fall.

Add to that teachers with tenure get to take 1/2 year sabbaticals and come back to the same job/pay they previously had. WTF, I can't take a sabbatical from my career and expect to come back without any issues.

Personally, my thoughts, do away with tenure, lengthen the school year, revise common core.
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