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Old 07-24-2014, 05:50 AM   #61
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ive just bought one and cant see this wire or mention of it so i dont think it applies to the e46
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Old 07-24-2014, 07:15 AM   #62
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ive just bought one and cant see this wire or mention of it so i dont think it applies to the e46
Sounds promising. I am presuming that the permanent 12v feed is needed by the Dynavin for memory backup purposes. It may be that e90s shut down all power on the main radio harness when they go into sleep mode, whilst the e46s leave a 12v feed still live, so don't need the extra wire.

Nice to hear from someone in the UK. Have you installed your unit yet? If you have, how are you finding it?
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havent fitted it yet as my car is in the bodyshop for god knows how long having major surgery, i got one on the recommendation from a member on e46zone who has used enonons (sp?) and he posted a video and i was quite impressed with the speed of the screen and the cohesive displays

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hello, I'm from Germany (sorry for my bad english) I have in my E46 already a D99+. Well I ordered a N6 which I hopefully get this week.
Now I have two questions, which no one can answer me here in Germany...
Why are displayed in the E46 version only two temperatures in the ODB menu? With the D99+ also the range and the tank level were displayed. there will be an update?

can the progress bar in the ipod mode also ne moved to jump to a Position in a Track?
Since you're a European D99+-user like me (NL), can you please let me know what the FM Radio reception is like? My stock unit works flawlessly, but the D99+ is a disaster in that area When the N6 gives a real improvement, I'll definitely consider re-investing!

Und auf Deutsch: weil Sie auch ein D99+ haben, können Sie mir sagen wie die Radioempfang (FM) vom N6-Gerät ist? Meine Originalradio war perfekt, aber mein D99+ ist leider ganz schlecht Wenn die N6 bessere Qualität gibt werde ich sicherlich bedenken ob ich (wieder) ein neues Gerät kaufen werde.

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Old 07-25-2014, 12:42 PM   #65
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Since you're a European D99+-user like me (NL), can you please let me know what the FM Radio reception is like? My stock unit works flawlessly, but the D99+ is a disaster in that area When the N6 gives a real improvement, I'll definitely consider re-investing!

Und auf Deutsch: weil Sie auch ein D99+ haben, können Sie mir sagen wie die Radioempfang (FM) vom N6-Gerät ist? Meine Originalradio war perfekt, aber mein D99+ ist leider ganz schlecht Wenn die N6 bessere Qualität gibt werde ich sicherlich bedenken ob ich (wieder) ein neues Gerät kaufen werde.

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My N6 arived yesterday.... Nice unit!
Radio reception is bettet then in the d99+ but not perfect. Im still testing...
On iPod Mode, there is no way to jump to a Position
OBC shows only two temperatures, but there can be an Update for more Information.
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OBC shows only two temperatures, but there can be an Update for more Information.
it can only show what the cabus feeds it, thats all it can get from the e46 the e9x show more apparently
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My N6 arived yesterday.... Nice unit!
On iPod Mode, there is no way to jump to a Position
Not sure what you mean....but on ipod mode you can scroll the screen, OR use the scroll bar on the right, OR press the keyboard icon at the bottom of the screen to jump to a point in the alphabet....
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does he mean jump to the middle of a track?
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does he mean jump to the middle of a track?
Ah....maybe......Yes that is a current shortcoming of the ipod interface (and a common one among ipod interfaces). Ive talked to dynavin about it and hope that it may gain that functionality in a future software release. The SD/USB DOES currently allow for this functionality so there are options....
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it can only show what the cabus feeds it, thats all it can get from the e46 the e9x show more apparently
Ok, but my "old" D99+ in the same car, showed fuel level, distance and so on...
The informations are on the iBus...

Sounds good, that there will be an Update for the iPod Interface (to jump into the middle of a track)
In CD Mode is the same Problem...
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it can only show what the cabus feeds it, thats all it can get from the e46 the e9x show more apparently
Hm, doesn't sound completely satisfactory to me: the D99(+) shows all the info from the OBC (like kms to go before empty tank, fuel consumption etc.). Further, from CANBUS a lot more info can be gained (as I do quite often with Torque and a BT obd2-scanner).

But hey, for me that's just gadget stuff.

My D99 suffers from a randomly non-responsive touchscreen (lasting 5 min to 2hrs), so hopefully my dealer is willing to trade it for an N6 under warranty

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isnt torque app etc connected through the odbc port though? not just connected to the canbus? or am i getting confused
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CAN-bus is actually a part of OBD2, but I guess you're right in this area: the Dynavin reads from the on-board computer (screen info between gauges), not directly from the ECU (through OBD2). However, that leaves the first part of my reply valid. The D99 shows "all" OBC info, like this.

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Hey guys, new to the forum and looking to buy one of these units as it seems the eonon's have too many issues
i have the screen in my 330ci, but without the navigation. Will i need any extension cable? or will it just plug and play?
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It's an offset... But you are thinking backwards....the numbers you enter in the delay settings menu are delays on each speaker expressed in centimeters. You will have the most delay on the speaker closest to you. So in your case you would subtract each dimension from 163cm.

So you end up with this:

FL: 72cm
FR: 31cm
RL: 21
RR: 0


Those numbers are a starting point but you will want to get you final number by using your ears. The goal is to create a solid aural image of each musician at a certain point in space on a a perceived soundstage. In a recording there are sounds and musicians to the left, the right, and the center, it's the center that we are concerned with here. Most of the time the drums and primarily the vocalist are in the center. We want to select a music track that has some space in it so we don't want a heavily overdubbed recording with lots of backing vocals....too much noise.



Set the fader to the front so we are only hearing the front pair of speakers. Enter the delay numbers above and put on some music. It should sound pretty good. Then raise one side of the delay settings, say the front left. As you do this you will hear the sound change, it will become hollow, out of focus, kind of a "in a tin can" kind of sound, your front speakers are now out of phase. Then lower the setting, as you pass the correct setting you will hear the sound come back into "focus", the vocals will move to the center of the car and become more solid. Keep going and you will hear it go out of phase again. Now go back towards you original setting again and listen as the music becomes focused again. Somewhere near the number we calculated above you will find the "sweet spot" where the vocals and bass are centered in the car and solid.

Then fade the rear speakers back in a little bit at a time until the sound is full and pleasing but not at the expense of the solid centered imaging. And that's it. Now you can play around with the EQ and other audio adjustments.

Try the above and if you have never hear a time aligned system you might be suprised by what you hear....it's a different experience than you are used to....

Let me know if you have questions....I've been running time alignment in all of my personal cars for....a long time now...
Hi Jeff, this is a good write up on time delay AND setting levels between front/rear (aka fader). As a tip to others, I also do the level setting by staggering my power levels between front and rear. I give the front speakers plenty more power 5-10X more. Now back to why I am writing .... I am curious to learn about time alignment in regards to the E46 speaker configuration. When I was last using time alignment, I placed my tweeters in the kick panels and aimed toward the driver/passenger seats. This equalized the distances naturally, it was very close to the mid in the door and the tweeter was a little closer to being on-axis. The speakers were very close together generally speaking, so the time alignment worked well. My question is this, how well does the time alignment work with the tweeter being farther away from the mid?
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Wow, time alignment!, a real equalizer and 4V preouts!

About time.

Plus it finally looks clean on the interface side of things.
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Hi Jeff, this is a good write up on time delay AND setting levels between front/rear (aka fader). As a tip to others, I also do the level setting by staggering my power levels between front and rear. I give the front speakers plenty more power 5-10X more. Now back to why I am writing .... I am curious to learn about time alignment in regards to the E46 speaker configuration. When I was last using time alignment, I placed my tweeters in the kick panels and aimed toward the driver/passenger seats. This equalized the distances naturally, it was very close to the mid in the door and the tweeter was a little closer to being on-axis. The speakers were very close together generally speaking, so the time alignment worked well. My question is this, how well does the time alignment work with the tweeter being farther away from the mid?
On the E46 the distance between the mid and tweeters is minimal....now the mid and the woofer...that difference is larger so Im guessing that is what you are talking about.

In my experience with time alignment the vast majority of the "effect" is heard in the lower and middle frequencies....mostly bass and midbass....think about this, its difficult, if not impossible to hear an out of phase tweeter, but an out of phase woofer is obvious.....

So when you set up these measurements for the time alignment, use the larger door speakers as your measuring point, and then just do the fine tuning by using your ears. Dont worry about the tweeters....there are many other factors that have more effect on them in a car environment.
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On the E46 the distance between the mid and tweeters is minimal....now the mid and the woofer...that difference is larger so Im guessing that is what you are talking about.

In my experience with time alignment the vast majority of the "effect" is heard in the lower and middle frequencies....mostly bass and midbass....think about this, its difficult, if not impossible to hear an out of phase tweeter, but an out of phase woofer is obvious.....

So when you set up these measurements for the time alignment, use the larger door speakers as your measuring point, and then just do the fine tuning by using your ears. Dont worry about the tweeters....there are many other factors that have more effect on them in a car environment.
Yes I did mean woofer and mid. I forget that the system is a 3-way in the front. I am used to talking about 2-way where there woofer is the mid. I always found the kick-panel installs sounded better and I am hopeful that time alignment could keep me from going to that extreme.
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Yes I did mean woofer and mid. I forget that the system is a 3-way in the front. I am used to talking about 2-way where there woofer is the mid. I always found the kick-panel installs sounded better and I am hopeful that time alignment could keep me from going to that extreme.
Yes, Ive had a couple kick panel systems myself, back before time alignment that was the only way to get anywhere close to proper imaging. But oh man, what a pain in the A$$.....
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