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Old 07-13-2014, 03:15 AM   #1
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Apparently I don't know how to run

I have never been a runner. As long as I can remember, it hasn't been my strong point. My peak was probably in middle school when I ran a 6:35 mile. In high school the best I could do was about 9:30, and only about 1 mile tops. In college, my athletic friend tried to teach me by going for a typical jog, but I had to stop after only a block due to cramping in my stomach.

I tried running today and I can only make it about 1/4 mile. I get winded very quickly and my shoulders start to ache. I can bike a long distance, so physical endurance isn't necessarily my issue. My form just sucks that bad. My feet slam down with every step and it's a very uncomfortable experience. It probably looks hilarious. I kind of assumed humans were designed to know how to run, but clearly I don't get it.

What should I do? Accept it as fate and never run from the cops? Anyone else have the same issue?
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Old 07-13-2014, 03:54 AM   #2
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Are you over weight? Not very many people are good at running, so don't get too down. Even people that look super in-shape. Running is one of the most difficult things to improve on, imo. i say, if you really want to improve, just get in shape. Lift, eat simi-decent, run once maybe twice a week. Don't over do it though, because we really aren't built for running. It can take its toll on your knees hips and back, and all the cartilage in between.
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Old 07-13-2014, 03:57 AM   #3
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Get good shoes (brooks ghost 6 or asics nimbus are good for beginners with a heavy foot), don't heel strike, loosen you shoulders, swing your arms, utilize rhythmic breathing. Start slow. Strengthen your core by planking. Go to runnersworld.com. Read "running on air".
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Old 07-13-2014, 06:30 AM   #4
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Old 07-13-2014, 07:54 AM   #5
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I have never been a runner. As long as I can remember, it hasn't been my strong point. My peak was probably in middle school when I ran a 6:35 mile. In high school the best I could do was about 9:30, and only about 1 mile tops. In college, my athletic friend tried to teach me by going for a typical jog, but I had to stop after only a block due to cramping in my stomach.

I tried running today and I can only make it about 1/4 mile. I get winded very quickly and my shoulders start to ache. I can bike a long distance, so physical endurance isn't necessarily my issue. My form just sucks that bad. My feet slam down with every step and it's a very uncomfortable experience. It probably looks hilarious. I kind of assumed humans were designed to know how to run, but clearly I don't get it.

What should I do? Accept it as fate and never run from the cops? Anyone else have the same issue?
What happened between middle school and high school that slowed your mile time by 3 minutes? Did you gain a lot of weight?

A 6.5 minute mile in middle school is perfectly respectable, but a fit 18 y/o male should be able to run a whole lot faster than a 9.5 minute mile.

You have to have at least acceptable technique to run a 6.5 minute mile. What changed?
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Find a running coach and talk to them.
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Old 07-13-2014, 08:25 AM   #7
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Fastest I've done a mile is like 7:3X. That was after running for about a month and on hilly terrain. I do the same thing where I slam my feet into the ground. Also, sort of related, I can't wear flip flops and make them NOT flop, I don't get how people walk with them and they are just quiet, and attached to their foot. I guess, like you, I'm just retarded.


Also I found the best way to improve my 1 mile time was to run longer distances. I started running 1.5 and 2 miles at a time, and I improved much quicker. I went from like a 10:30 to that 7:3X. I shaved whole minutes off my time every other day, and then a 15-20 seconds a day after that.
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Old 07-13-2014, 09:00 AM   #8
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Don't feel bad, I also do pretty much exactly what you say with slamming my heel into the ground. At my peak (also probably about middle school) I was doing an 8 minute mile, now it's probably more like 12 minutes lol.

However, when I'm just regular walking, my forefoot always hits the ground first instead of my heel. I don't know when I started doing this, but everyone I know is always amazed at how quiet my steps are.
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Don't feel bad, I also do pretty much exactly what you say with slamming my heel into the ground. At my peak (also probably about middle school) I was doing an 8 minute mile, now it's probably more like 12 minutes lol.

However, when I'm just regular walking, my forefoot always hits the ground first instead of my heel. I don't know when I started doing this, but everyone I know is always amazed at how quiet my steps are.
Bro, if the people you know are always raving about how quiet you walk you need to start meeting some new people.
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Find a running coach and talk to them.
This. I was dealing with alot of shin splints, aching hips, etc a few years ago. I went to a running coach through my local running store and seemed to help a bit and clean up my form. Then my brother who's a physical therapist got me in touch with a running specialist at his company to help with the shin splints.



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Bro, if the people you know are always raving about how quiet you walk you need to start meeting some new people.
Haha it's not really everyone, just a couple old roommates that I would sometimes scare the crap out of without even trying by walking behind them in the kitchen or something.
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Old 07-13-2014, 09:52 AM   #12
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Get test fitted for the correct shoe.....regardless of brand. Find the shoe that fits.

Most places you will get test fitted will have running clinics that can help you learn better form.


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Old 07-13-2014, 09:57 AM   #13
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@OP I'm in the same boat. I sucked. I prefer basketball over running. Bicycling is better for the knees. If you do that you will be fine. Try to find a few hills on your bike route.

or B. find a nice pair of running shoes (like everyone said)
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Old 07-13-2014, 10:06 AM   #14
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Download the couch to 5k app for your phone. You can't expect to just go out one day and run 10 miles. Staring slow and training your body to get used to it is more important than actual endurance.

I was in the same place as you are, can bike no problem but running was a challenge and the app really helped with the process of getting used to running. It's designed for people who have zero endurance but you can go faster if you want.

Oh and the right shoes are key.

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Old 07-13-2014, 11:44 AM   #15
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Is your back healed up from your mtb oopsie?

Join a running club. Ask around at the local shoe stores, use Google, look at meetup.com.

If you belong to a gym, see if any of the trainers there have running form expertise and ask them to watch you on a treadmill and help with your form.

Video yourself running on a treadmill so you can see your own form and self-diagnose. Or post the video online and let the Trolldom Of The Interwebz comment. Sift through the comments about your lineage and sexual orientation and there may be some gems in there.

Post noodz here.

Contact the track coach at a local high school or college, see if he can recommend ways to improve your form, or if he wants to moonlight as a private coach. Maybe he'll trade you coaching and track time if you'll help out the program as a volunteer or chaperone or something.

Fck jogging and just do other stuff. Find steep hills and just walk up them. Find a stadium or similar and do bleacher intervals. Go hiking while carrying a backpack and 2 hookers. Jump rope. Find a basketball or tennis court and do suicides and laterals.
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Wow, this is incredible. Congrats OT for only giving real responses... even Griffin!

Okay, to try to answer all the questions: I haven't gained weight or anything. In fact I'm pretty thin and always have been. About 6ft 170lbs. But I guess you could say I'm borderline skinny-fat, as in my muscle tone is definitely lacking. I don't belong to a gym and never have, but it might be a good idea to start. One thing for sure is that I have a lot more respect for people who can run a long distance. I have no idea how I did that 6:35 mile. Back then, our P.E. teacher made us run every day and it seems like we were just constantly running. I do remember feeling terrible afterwards.

Sounds like the consensus is having the right shoe is very important, so I'll look into that first. Right now I just have some regular old Pumas which are a casual sneaker and I don't think they are meant to be running shoes. Then again I don't know anything about shoes.

Xcelratr, my back is mostly healed up from that crash, but it's still not right. Unfortunately I don't know if it ever will be, but that's part of the reason I wanted to learn to jog/run because it seems like a real full body workout that will help strengthen my core. Bicycling made my legs really strong, but left everything else the same. I learned that you can bike all you want, but if you want a balanced physique you need to do upper body workouts too.
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I think a pretty simple full body workout that you can do is jump rope, and I'm sure it's not as harsh on your joints as running. Hell you could do it in your living room on carpet too!
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The right shoe isn't going to fix terrible form. Go to a running shop and talk to them. Seriously. Just walk in. They're just like bike shops in that they'll help you with anything because they want more people in the sport.

But for starting out, you probably just need to be walking. Jog a little, then walk. Repeat until you can run for 20 minutes straight.

Oh, and about your core, running won't really work your core, but working your core will help your running. You should do a core training circuit of some kind a few times a week or a couple a week. Planks, crunches, leg raises, bicycles, etc. We used to do these in XC all the time. It makes you WAY stronger than you look to have a strong core.
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I play soccer for 2h, mountain bike for 2.5h. I can barely run 2-4 miles. Running is just very boring.

Forget about running, stick with sprinting and biking. Better for your joints, and more efficient use of time. Sprint for 15-20min with breaks in between, it's like running for an hour.

You still need to learn proper sprinting form.
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Sprinting and endurance running are extremely different activities and result in a totally different kind of "shape."
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