SC Owners: Which Supercharger do you have?

mattman · 11-30-2003, 07:36 AM

Just doing some research for some other folks. Curious on what everyone is using on their E46 (any model). Please post a reply also letting us know which one you have, the estimated or dyno'd RHWP/TRQ, and the cost of the SC kit and the cost of labor. Also, please only vote if you actually own a supercharger.

Thanks!

sheefo2k · 11-30-2003, 11:07 AM

awesome therad|bump|

i wanna know which SC to get, i wish theres a turbo tho

anyways.. and what are the numbers for 325,323,328,330.. etc

and also i can use it as a dailydriver right?

Mario325i · 11-30-2003, 12:50 PM

How does a supercharger affect the lifetime of an engine? Does it wear out the rings or whatnot faster?

Also, how does it affect gas mileage?

NickACS · 11-30-2003, 03:16 PM

Since I have AA (and voted), check AA's website for all the times of the various E46 models...They are all on there, with dyno graphs..

1: Can be used as daily driver?
Of course! Mine was at first, until I "retired" it and got a beater since I compete with it...But there is nothing wrong driving it daily

2: Lifetime of engine?
Shouldn't be a problem if installed right. Samir and I had many talks about this and DonDon had a '99 328i with ESS with no probs. Shouldn't be a concern

3: Affect gas mileage?
Mine is about same or a little higher in fact

Still getting about 19-20 city and 27/28 hwy. I was getting like 18-19 city and 25/26 hwy pre-s/c days..

Good luck and whichever you choose...All 3 have be proven worthy enough and many board members here now have all 3 you mentioned

cowmoo32 · 11-30-2003, 03:36 PM

If you do get an AA, now is the time. I just looked at their site, and your SC'er is discounted big time.

Iniquity · 11-30-2003, 03:50 PM

I don't have one but I myself would go with either AA or ASA...

tpzblu330ci · 11-30-2003, 03:53 PM

How much more power does the ASA kit make then the Technik Stage 4 power kit.

simsima325 · 11-30-2003, 03:54 PM

i got the little electric one, it aweeeeeesome

this is a good thread tho

Jlevi SW · 11-30-2003, 05:20 PM

I don't know why I even came in here. ;(

ASA Stg II is reguarded as one of the best.

mattman · 11-30-2003, 05:24 PM

I figured it would be worthwhile for folks doing research to see who has what and what their experience has been.

If you DON't have an SC please don't vote as it would be inaccurate.

ALSO: For all of you SC owners please add a post reply to give us your feedback. This way we can also know who has what.

mattman · 11-30-2003, 05:27 PM

All three have had positive feedbacks in the past. ESS has been known to be stable but at times overrated on the HP production as it's mainly tuned for Euro E46 cars and gas.

AA is pretty impressive but don't know alot of owners. They are US based which I think is a HUGE plus and offer an intercooler. They also have good promos for their kits. The Rotrex blower is suppose to be nice also.

ASA: From what I've read, gives probably the best OUTPUT of HP. I don't know much more then that.

thekubiaks · 11-30-2003, 06:50 PM

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Tornado Jay · 11-30-2003, 07:34 PM

i just recently got the ASA SK1 on my car and im loving it !!!!!!!

One of the best if not the best investments on my car

mattman · 11-30-2003, 07:47 PM

Also.. if you all can post the COST and COST of labor of your SC.. that'll be great too! Thanks, Mattman

mattman · 11-30-2003, 11:02 PM

16 votes so far and ASA is in the lead with 1/2 the votes..

Iniquity · 11-30-2003, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tpzblu330ci
How much more power does the ASA kit make then the Technik Stage 4 power kit.

I believe the technik power kits use the ASA S/C

someone correct me if I'm wrong...

NickACS · 11-30-2003, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Iniquity

I believe the technik power kits use the ASA S/C

someone correct me if I'm wrong...

I don't think so..
The Technik power kits are for NA power only: Intake/ECU/Headers/Camshafts/Throttle-Body/Ported-Head

ASA s/c is a stand-alone supercharger unit, or can be combined with Technik power kits. Just ask xS3x

itzjonjon69 · 11-30-2003, 11:17 PM

anyone have the web site to ASA?

NickACS · 11-30-2003, 11:23 PM

For me, I'm unfortunately semi-"contractual" not to divulge the price I got from AA. My deal was a one-time promo price that included labor by AA.

If you call them and ask to speak to Rey, he can help you get a good price

Tell'em Nick sent ya

mattman · 11-30-2003, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jpatel2403
i just recently got the ASA SK1 on my car and im loving it !!!!!!! One of the best if not the best investments on my car

What held you back from getting SK2? Cost? Is there an upgrade path from SK1 to SK2?

View Poll Results: Which Supercharger do you OWN?
ESS (European Supercharging Systems)	14	33.33%
AA (Active Autowerke)	10	23.81%
ASA/Kellener	15	35.71%
Other: Please specify	3	7.14%
Voters: 42. You may not vote on this poll

11-30-2003, 07:36 AM	#1
mattman Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: IL Posts: 914 My Ride: '04 M3 View My Garage	SC OWNERS: Which Supercharger do you have? Just doing some research for some other folks. Curious on what everyone is using on their E46 (any model). Please post a reply also letting us know which one you have, the estimated or dyno'd RHWP/TRQ, and the cost of the SC kit and the cost of labor. Also, please only vote if you actually own a supercharger. Thanks! __________________ Chicago ///M Crew www.chitownM.com Last edited by mattman; 11-30-2003 at 07:43 AM.

11-30-2003, 11:07 AM	#2
sheefo2k OEM ///Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Home - Minnesota Posts: 9,019 My Ride: vrm psh - 02 325ci View My Garage	awesome therad\|bump\| i wanna know which SC to get, i wish theres a turbo tho anyways.. and what are the numbers for 325,323,328,330.. etc and also i can use it as a dailydriver right? __________________ I OWN Estoril_Blue... See for your self Performance BMW car Sponsored by : www.euro-spec.net www.bimmian.com BMW Motorwerks support: www.vmwerks.com www.esstuning.com www.my330i.com

11-30-2003, 03:36 PM	#5
cowmoo32 beer snob Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Home of NASCAR, Joe Camel, and USF1 Posts: 5,289 My Ride: 08 M3, E30 View My Garage	If you do get an AA, now is the time. I just looked at their site, and your SC'er is discounted big time. __________________ V1 - Debadged - RPI Scoops - Blinder M45 - Fiamm Air Horns - Exhaust Cutouts Upgrade your gray matter because one day it may matter - Deltron

11-30-2003, 03:50 PM	#6
Iniquity Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 476 My Ride: bimmuh View My Garage	I don't have one but I myself would go with either AA or ASA... __________________ Which Family Guy character are you?

11-30-2003, 12:50 PM	#3
Mario325i Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Columbia, MD Posts: 55 My Ride: 2002 325i View My Garage	How does a supercharger affect the lifetime of an engine? Does it wear out the rings or whatnot faster? Also, how does it affect gas mileage?

11-30-2003, 03:16 PM	#4
NickACS BOOM! Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: ATL Posts: 3,879 My Ride: TWC E46 ETCC WB View My Garage	Since I have AA (and voted), check AA's website for all the times of the various E46 models...They are all on there, with dyno graphs.. 1: Can be used as daily driver? Of course! Mine was at first, until I "retired" it and got a beater since I compete with it...But there is nothing wrong driving it daily 2: Lifetime of engine? Shouldn't be a problem if installed right. Samir and I had many talks about this and DonDon had a '99 328i with ESS with no probs. Shouldn't be a concern 3: Affect gas mileage? Mine is about same or a little higher in fact Still getting about 19-20 city and 27/28 hwy. I was getting like 18-19 city and 25/26 hwy pre-s/c days.. Good luck and whichever you choose...All 3 have be proven worthy enough and many board members here now have all 3 you mentioned

11-30-2003, 03:53 PM	#7
tpzblu330ci TheOnlyConstantIsChange Join Date: May 2002 Location: Central New Jersey Posts: 4,232 My Ride: '02 330Ci View My Garage	How much more power does the ASA kit make then the Technik Stage 4 power kit. __________________ "Every man gotta right to decide his own destiny." - Bob Marley '02 Topaz/Black Leather- Prem Package, Sport Package, Bi-Xenon, Heated seats, Type 72M 18" wheels,5-spd '57 Ford F100- 272 V8, 3 speed with four tires

11-30-2003, 03:54 PM	#8
simsima325 I killed Paul Allen... Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 26,496 My Ride: three-twenty-p00r View My Garage	i got the little electric one, it aweeeeeesome this is a good thread tho __________________ -Brendan Clutchmasters FX100 + JB Racing Flywheel Review

11-30-2003, 05:20 PM	#9
Jlevi SW 1.888.JLEVISW Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: 2952 Scott Blvd, Santa Clara CA Posts: 12,199 My Ride: Vorsteiner 335i View My Garage	I don't know why I even came in here. ;( ASA Stg II is reguarded as one of the best. __________________

11-30-2003, 05:24 PM	#10
mattman Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: IL Posts: 914 My Ride: '04 M3 View My Garage	I figured it would be worthwhile for folks doing research to see who has what and what their experience has been. If you DON't have an SC please don't vote as it would be inaccurate. ALSO: For all of you SC owners please add a post reply to give us your feedback. This way we can also know who has what. __________________ Chicago ///M Crew www.chitownM.com

11-30-2003, 05:27 PM	#11
mattman Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: IL Posts: 914 My Ride: '04 M3 View My Garage	All three have had positive feedbacks in the past. ESS has been known to be stable but at times overrated on the HP production as it's mainly tuned for Euro E46 cars and gas. AA is pretty impressive but don't know alot of owners. They are US based which I think is a HUGE plus and offer an intercooler. They also have good promos for their kits. The Rotrex blower is suppose to be nice also. ASA: From what I've read, gives probably the best OUTPUT of HP. I don't know much more then that. __________________ Chicago ///M Crew www.chitownM.com

11-30-2003, 06:50 PM	#12
thekubiaks Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 617 My Ride: 2001 330i View My Garage	. __________________ 2001 330i, BLK/BLK 5SPD, PP,SP,HK,Xenon, ESS TX2 S/C, PSS9, UUC Sways, Brembo CD, SS Lines, Hawk HPS, M3 Wheel, VDO Gauges, Dynojet Widebandcommander, Pioneer XM, Alpine CHA-S634, M-Tech 2

11-30-2003, 07:34 PM	#13
Tornado Jay Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 255 My Ride: 2001 330i View My Garage	i just recently got the ASA SK1 on my car and im loving it !!!!!!! One of the best if not the best investments on my car __________________ M1 AUTOBODY l MICHELIN l FOX MARKETING l EUROREV l DPE

11-30-2003, 07:47 PM	#14
mattman Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: IL Posts: 914 My Ride: '04 M3 View My Garage	Also.. if you all can post the COST and COST of labor of your SC.. that'll be great too! Thanks, Mattman __________________ Chicago ///M Crew www.chitownM.com

11-30-2003, 11:02 PM	#15
mattman Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: IL Posts: 914 My Ride: '04 M3 View My Garage	16 votes so far and ASA is in the lead with 1/2 the votes.. __________________ Chicago ///M Crew www.chitownM.com

11-30-2003, 11:17 PM	#18
itzjonjon69 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Cypress, CA Posts: 1,772 My Ride: 09 VW GTI View My Garage	anyone have the web site to ASA? __________________ Evolution Racewerks team Ar-Kan

11-30-2003, 11:23 PM	#19
NickACS BOOM! Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: ATL Posts: 3,879 My Ride: TWC E46 ETCC WB View My Garage	For me, I'm unfortunately semi-"contractual" not to divulge the price I got from AA. My deal was a one-time promo price that included labor by AA. If you call them and ask to speak to Rey, he can help you get a good price Tell'em Nick sent ya Last edited by NickACS; 11-30-2003 at 11:33 PM.

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