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Old 12-17-2003, 06:41 AM   #21
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dammm this bar look PHAT
Phil, I thought you want to be Better hurry and get on the list.... we all know your addicted too
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Old 12-17-2003, 09:46 AM   #22
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wow the cf looks amazing.. interesting design though, kinda sceptical on the structural integrity compared to other bars but i dont doubt research and development bfp put into producing this strut bar on an awesome looking prodcut
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Phil, I thought you want to be Better hurry and get on the list.... we all know your addicted too
yeah.......BUT i also told myself I'll never pay more than $300 for a strut tower bar ........my loss i guess:sad:
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Old 12-17-2003, 01:24 PM   #24
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yeah.......BUT i also told myself I'll never pay more than $300 for a strut tower bar ........my loss i guess:sad:
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We lowered the price on this unit as much as we can for the buy-in. Come on, another c-note isn't too bad!

steel-grey,

I have provided a few links to CF info for you below. In short, Carbon Fiber is much stronger than most metals, with a much higher tensile strength. It is extremely light weight, and has replaced many components in major airplane structures. (if you're a skeptical about CF's structural integrity, don't get on a 777! Check THIS OUT )

This bar of ours is so rigid and well built that you could get in a major accident (heaven forbid), and the bar would survive with minor scratches. It does not flex under load like most aluminum bars; it retains it's rigid position under all loads it will see in a car.

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Interesting article

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Old 12-17-2003, 02:29 PM   #25
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Several people have asked about the different bases and plating, so I thought I would quickly go over them...

1) all of the bases are aluminum

2) The anodized bases (far right and left) are not shiny like most anodized pieces you see, because they actually ended up looking a little bit cheap in our opinions. These have been sandblasted using a very rare method to preserve the anodization while giving it the matte finish.

3) Nickel plating us commonly used to plate handguns (max payne), and resists corrosion. The other two bases won't corrode, but the nickel plating is much more scratch resistant and durable. The process to nickel plate is also more expensive, hence the up-charge. It is an electrodeposit (positive/negative charge) process, wheras the anodization is a chemical dip.



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Old 12-17-2003, 03:38 PM   #26
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Damn that look awesome!!! Just one question will it fit a 99' bmw 323i? If so I'll order ASAP!!!
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Old 12-17-2003, 04:42 PM   #27
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Damn that look awesome!!! Just one question will it fit a 99' bmw 323i? If so I'll order ASAP!!!
Absolutely Quatro! It fits all E46, though we're testing an E46 M3 today to see if it clears.

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Old 12-17-2003, 07:49 PM   #28
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We just test fitted the bar to an M3 today, and it will not fit in it's present configuration. We are going to work hard over the next week to see if we can reconfigure the kit to work with an M3 in time for the buy. If not, we may offer an extension or reserve the special price to E46 M3 owners.

Also, I would like to post some general answers to the flood of email we have been getting about this bar (and questions on other boards)

1) The bar is completely carbon fiber. It is not wrapped around anything.

2) The bar is made by a company which specializes in government contracted composite work, and the technology used to manufacture the bar is proprietary (i.e. invented by the company making it). It is incredibly rigid, and can withstand a considerable amount more loading than other bars on the market. It is 3x stronger than aluminum, and under loads that it will see, it will not bend even a millimeter. Carbon Fiber is used in many automotive and aerospace applications for just this reason; light weight and strength far beyond conventional metals.

3) The bar is far from just eye candy. It has been load tested, foam core tested on an E46 for tower movement, and completely over-engineered from every perspective. It can tolerate massive amounts of compressive, expansive, and torsional forces, above and beyond what any E46 will ever see. The ends are attached using a proprietary process, and you could probably hang an E46 BY the bar without it failing. (Anyone want to volunteer for that test!?

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Old 12-17-2003, 09:23 PM   #29
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We just test fitted the bar to an M3 today, and it will not fit in it's present configuration. We are going to work hard over the next week to see if we can reconfigure the kit to work with an M3 in time for the buy. If not, we may offer an extension or reserve the special price to E46 M3 owners.

Also, I would like to post some general answers to the flood of email we have been getting about this bar (and questions on other boards)

1) The bar is completely carbon fiber. It is not wrapped around anything.

2) The bar is made by a company which specializes in government contracted composite work, and the technology used to manufacture the bar is proprietary (i.e. invented by the company making it). It is incredibly rigid, and can withstand a considerable amount more loading than other bars on the market. It is 3x stronger than aluminum, and under loads that it will see, it will not bend even a millimeter. Carbon Fiber is used in many automotive and aerospace applications for just this reason; light weight and strength far beyond conventional metals.

3) The bar is far from just eye candy. It has been load tested, foam core tested on an E46 for tower movement, and completely over-engineered from every perspective. It can tolerate massive amounts of compressive, expansive, and torsional forces, above and beyond what any E46 will ever see. The ends are attached using a proprietary process, and you could probably hang an E46 BY the bar without it failing. (Anyone want to volunteer for that test!?

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if you send one to me ASAP i will rig it up and demonstrate its strength by using it as a pull up bar. ill post videos on the internet.
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Old 12-17-2003, 10:07 PM   #30
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if you send one to me ASAP i will rig it up and demonstrate its strength by using it as a pull up bar. ill post videos on the internet.
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Old 12-18-2003, 11:37 AM   #31
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if you send one to me ASAP i will rig it up and demonstrate its strength by using it as a pull up bar. ill post videos on the internet.
Too bad it's winter, or someone could use it for water skiing!

So what, 100 1-handed (with the knuckles facing you) pullups for a free bar?

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Old 12-18-2003, 10:17 PM   #32
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Ok, we have about a dozen commitments and several payments. Resellers have been hitting us up like crazy for this item, so this will be the only group buy for this item from us, ever, and it is limited to 50 units.

You may see this bar in a few magazines within the next few months. ;-P

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Old 12-18-2003, 10:46 PM   #33
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I emailed you today with pics of my strut tower tops to see if your cf bar will still give me access to these points. Please let me know asap your opinion.
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Old 12-19-2003, 11:51 AM   #34
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I emailed you today with pics of my strut tower tops to see if your cf bar will still give me access to these points. Please let me know asap your opinion.
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Nick, I have beeb a little behind on email. I took a quick look at the pix, and I think they may work... I'll get back to you later today via email...

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Old 12-19-2003, 11:58 AM   #35
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I might buy one, just to sell it later... since the resale will be awsome.. :p
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Hey Dan, any interest in making one of these for an E36 BMW?
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Hey Dan, any interest in making one of these for an E36 BMW?
We were actually just discussing that yesterday. We had originally planned on an E36 version if interest was high enough, and I have had a ton of email asking for it... So we started playing around with our resident E36 M3, and it looks like it'll be easy to adapt the bar to that application...

I will update as we are closer to an E36 solution, which will probably be the first or second week of January. If any E36 people want in on this GB by giving us a deposit (which would be of course refunded in the event we didn't get the bar to work for some odd reason), with the reasonable expectation that they would have to wait maybe a few weeks longer, we're game.

Pricing between the models will be the same.

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Dan, cool thanks for the update. One thing to think of with the E36 is that fitment on a 95 would be different than on a 96+ due to traction control. There are not too many options for us 96+ owners. Thanks.
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Old 12-19-2003, 01:41 PM   #39
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Dan, cool thanks for the update. One thing to think of with the E36 is that fitment on a 95 would be different than on a 96+ due to traction control. There are not too many options for us 96+ owners. Thanks.
Pls shoot me a pic if you have a chance. We test fit the bar on our '97 M3 and it seemed to work. Would you mind pointing out which part you're talking about?

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