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Old 03-23-2004, 11:27 PM   #1
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KUMHO Tires-->Good or Bad?

i need to get some new tires and need your help!
i dont have that much to spend on them...about $115 each. so about $450-$475 for all four.

225/40/18


looked into the Kumho Ecsta 712...great price ($96 tirerack), but are these any good, or am i just gonna waste my money on these? anyone ridding on them that can give me any type of feedback? (ie. road noise, vibration???)

whats most important in order:

1. road noise
2. vibration
3. durability
4. grip/handling/performance

so just throw out some brands for me to consider!


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Old 03-24-2004, 12:09 AM   #2
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i need to get some new tires and need your help!
i dont have that much to spend on them...about $115 each. so about $450-$475 for all four.

225/40/18


looked into the Kumho Ecsta 712...great price ($96 tirerack), but are these any good, or am i just gonna waste my money on these? anyone ridding on them that can give me any type of feedback? (ie. road noise, vibration???)

whats most important in order:

1. road noise
2. vibration
3. durability
4. grip/handling/performance

so just throw out some brands for me to consider!


OnE~!
I wouldnt use Kumhos but there is always people that swear by them. You should read the Tire Rack Feedbacks on this tire.

As far as your importance list.
Grip, handling and performance usually equals bad durability, minimal road noise and vibration.

The softer the tire compound, the better the grip but this means that durablility goes way down

Hard tire compounds usually mean great durability but really bad grip as the compound is usually harder and therefore make really noisy tires.
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Old 03-24-2004, 07:34 AM   #3
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Go up a bit in price to $101 each and get the Kumho KH11, which will be quieter and a bit longer wear than the Ecsta 712.

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Old 03-24-2004, 06:29 PM   #4
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I am going to get a set of Falken FK-451. I am getting a lot of positive feedbacks for those tires and the tread looks much better than the Kumho. Unfortunately Tire Rack doesn't carry Falken.
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Old 03-24-2004, 06:31 PM   #5
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everyone here is smokin crack.. kuhmo is hella good for the money. ive ridden on dunlops, pirellis, etc. and kuhmos ride super nice. 3/4 of the cost and you still get a great tire that looks as agressive as it performs (unlike some other tires i know..) You cant go wrong bro, Ive had the best treadwear from my kuhmos vs. other brands and Ive always had slammed cars. as for road noise, you got me bro, im deaf in one ear. they seem quite to me, and they are for sure wuieter than the pirelli rossos i took off to put these on..
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Old 03-24-2004, 08:36 PM   #6
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I just got some they beat Michlen in most of the ratings for half the price..I heard they would be a lot of road noise and so far..I dont notice any diffrence from the stock continentals..they have great thread pattern, and so far they look like their worth the money to me!
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Old 03-24-2004, 09:52 PM   #7
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ok guys, i just talked to a guy at Tire Rack about the Kumho 712s and he just informed me that these wont work well in the wet and snow(winter). SOOO it looks like i need to get "all season" tires.

he recommended the:

SUMITOMO HTR+ $106
CONTINENTAL ContiExtreme Contact $122

what do you guys think?
have anyone ever even use these tires b4?
heard of them...
havent heard anyone from the forum talkin about these tires...


thanks guys...




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Go up a bit in price to $101 each and get the Kumho KH11, which will be quieter and a bit longer wear than the Ecsta 712.

http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=BN4&...ires/index.jsp
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Old 03-24-2004, 10:10 PM   #8
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i just ran across the KUHMO KH11... $101
what are the comments about these?


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Go up a bit in price to $101 each and get the Kumho KH11, which will be quieter and a bit longer wear than the Ecsta 712.

http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=BN4&...ires/index.jsp
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Old 03-24-2004, 10:37 PM   #9
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It seems like Kumho 712 got a lot of complains on bubbling. I am considering P-Zero Nero M+S. The price for 225/40/18 are ~$129 from tire rack and seems like very good rating. So Gary, do you have ne comment on this tire and where is this tire made? since if it made in USA(I am from Canada) I can save a 8% tax, if I order from tirerack.
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Old 03-24-2004, 10:45 PM   #10
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I don't know...
I wouldn't buy Kumho on the sole basis probably because it's Korean.
Since I don't really care for Korean cars... I kinda put Korean auto stuff along with that~~~
Other than that, I have no experience with it whatsoever, so you probably don't need to take my comment into much consideration

BTW... You can find Falken wheels at Supreme Power Parts (also another one of our sponsors). Talk to Eric or Manu, they can hook you up with Falkens.
Sorry to go off-topic a little bit, but the Falken GRB FK451 has a lot of tramlining due to the grooves in the tires. They're made to slick back the rainwater though and they do it well.
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Old 03-24-2004, 11:05 PM   #11
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Gary...

after lookin at ur site (tire rack) i am now leaning towards the Continental ContiExtreme Contacts after reading the high reviews it got.

but...there is no review/rating for the KUHMO ASX...
why is that?

i am now down to these two brand/tires for "all season."

which one do you think will be the best tire for me? (ASX or ContiExtreme)
(i need the quieter one with better traction)


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Go up a bit in price to $101 each and get the Kumho KH11, which will be quieter and a bit longer wear than the Ecsta 712.

http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=BN4&...ires/index.jsp
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Old 03-25-2004, 07:14 AM   #12
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Gary...

after lookin at ur site (tire rack) i am now leaning towards the Continental ContiExtreme Contacts after reading the high reviews it got.

but...there is no review/rating for the KUHMO ASX...
why is that?

i am now down to these two brand/tires for "all season."

which one do you think will be the best tire for me? (ASX or ContiExtreme)
(i need the quieter one with better traction)


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The ASX is too new to have any ratings or testing info yet. It might be a great tire, but we don't know at this point. If you're needing all all season tire I'd consider The Pzero Nero M+S, Sumitomo HTR+ or Conti Extreme Contact.

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Old 03-25-2004, 03:44 PM   #13
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I've had the 712's on my Lexus and I thought they were excellent tire for the money. I didn't experience any bubbling on them and they wear pretty well.
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Old 03-25-2004, 04:49 PM   #14
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i have recently purchase the conti-extremes. they are great tires. no experience with snow performance yet. they are a bit mushy/soft when cornering. a little louder than the conti-sport oem tires. i didn't find any flat spot problem. very good tires for all season. plus, they are great bang/buck.
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Old 03-25-2004, 07:23 PM   #15
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[QUOTE=Soju Shots]ok guys, i just talked to a guy at Tire Rack about the Kumho 712s and he just informed me that these wont work well in the wet and snow(winter). SOOO it looks like i need to get "all season" tires.


It has rained everyday this week down here in florida and no problems at all I think they have a lot better traction then the continentals I had on my stock wheels..also I really think continental is garbage I went through 2 sets in 30k..
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Old 03-25-2004, 09:51 PM   #16
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finally...

thanks for all the info guys...

i finally decided to shell out a little more cash and get the Pirelli PZero Nero (m&s).

a little more than i wanted to spend...but hey...think it will prove better in the long run!

keep modin' it ups guys!
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